Tigers want to lock up Sheens before rivals come knocking

@Balmain Bug said:
Sheens is a very poor coach and this is reflected by his disgraceful winning ratio since the inception of the NRL. It is the lowest of any coach who has been coaching by more than 2 years.

He never learns from his mistakes. He has one of the lowest winning percentage in the history of Rugby League.

How people here support his coaching I will never know.
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he has won 4 comps, that is not so terrible.

He has built this squad from scratch, and we are in a hell of a better state than we he arrived.

We have played a very attractive style which I enjoy.

I would love for him to re-sign as opposed to resign, when i read the topic, i thought we would be looking for a new coach next year.
 
@Goose said:
@Balmain Bug said:
Sheens is a very poor coach and this is reflected by his disgraceful winning ratio since the inception of the NRL. It is the lowest of any coach who has been coaching by more than 2 years.

He never learns from his mistakes. He has one of the lowest winning percentage in the history of Rugby League.

How people here support his coaching I will never know.

he has won 4 comps, that is not so terrible.

He has built this squad from scratch, and we are in a hell of a better state than we he arrived.

We have played a very attractive style which I enjoy.

I would love for him to re-sign as opposed to resign, when i read the topic, i thought we would be looking for a new coach next year.
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Bug i can think of some coaches with really woeful records Ask any Wests coach from 83-89 . his record looks bad due to his years at Cowboys He has bettered club in many ways and team selections if every member of forum put a team forward few of us would agree I agree he needs to meet KPIs every season but why get rid of him ???
 
@Balmain Bug said:
It is the lowest of any coach who has been coaching by more than 2 years.
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Wrong. Neil henry is at least one that has a worse ratio. A good look would more than likely find more.
 
@Balmain Bug said:
Sheens is a very poor coach and this is reflected by his disgraceful winning ratio since the inception of the NRL. It is the lowest of any coach who has been coaching by more than 2 years.

He never learns from his mistakes. He has one of the lowest winning percentage in the history of Rugby League.

How people here support his coaching I will never know.
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:laughing: good one
 
@Balmain Bug said:
@gallagher said:
@Balmain Bug said:
It is the lowest of any coach who has been coaching by more than 2 years.

Wrong. Neil henry is at least one that has a worse ratio. A good look would more than likely find more.

<big>Wrong</big>

Not since the NRL started.
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Can we include Bellamy he had 26 losses last year (no i did not include byes but included origins)
 
@Balmain Bug said:
Sheens is a very poor coach and this is reflected by his disgraceful winning ratio since the inception of the NRL. It is the lowest of any coach who has been coaching by more than 2 years.

He never learns from his mistakes. He has one of the lowest winning percentage in the history of Rugby League.

How people here support his coaching I will never know.
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And yet he still has an NRL premiership to his name…

They must have rigged 2005 to keep Sheens in a job. It's a conspiracy, alert the masses! :crazy
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Balmain Bug said:
Sheens is a very poor coach and this is reflected by his disgraceful winning ratio since the inception of the NRL. It is the lowest of any coach who has been coaching by more than 2 years.

He never learns from his mistakes. He has one of the lowest winning percentage in the history of Rugby League.

How people here support his coaching I will never know.

And yet he still has an NRL premiership to his name…

They must have rigged 2005 to keep Sheens in a job. It's a conspiracy, alert the masses! :crazy
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Bug - you know full well that his 26% record at Townsville was a far greater indication of the team's quality (& prevailing culture) than the coach's shortcomings!!!!
 
One loss & bag the coach, i didnt see the fonz miss one tackle on monday night or drop a ball, some things dont change. i hope we sign him soon for atleast 3 years.
 
Redemption- as soon as the Fonz was sacked from Nth QLD and
Murray Hurst took over, they finished in their highest position ever!! He doubled their winning perecentage to 51% !!!!

Then in 2003 when Graham Murray took over they had become a genuine premiership force in the space of 13 months after sacking the Fonz and getting rid of the years of on field mismanagement and bungled coaching decisions that the Fonz orchestrated.

As soo as he left the Cowboys blossomed and began to win.
 
Tigerbenji the coach is the fool that brings on a back for the last ten minutes of the game whilst everyone else is exhausted and blokes like Ellis who busted a gut was waving to the side line for 20 minutes trying to come off with injury but that fool did not want to replace him as it would ruin his insane interchange policy. I could go on and on but I won't .
 
Bug, the Cowboys were only successful after he left because of the infrastructure Sheens had put in place. Those guys benefited from Sheens' hard work. I am not surprised he lost the support of the players with a CAT like Morrison in there.

Don't quote me either, but I am pretty sure that Sheens does not control the interchanges. He has set times for changes to occur and Gentle controls these…..I could stand corrected though.
 
As far as Sheens putting his hand up and saying my "game plan was wrong or ineffectual" will never happen and especially in the media. Its not his go unlike Mathew Elliott who comes out every week and says " Iam to blame" Not every game plan will work and if your players are marginally off beat they have little chance of success. I think way to much importance is put on the coach, I think most good teams when on song could win without a coach. I think the coaches main role rather than game plans is to inflate and deflate egos when required
 
@supercoach said:
As far as Sheens putting his hand up and saying my "game plan was wrong or ineffectual" will never happen and especially in the media. Its not his go unlike Mathew Elliott who comes out every week and says " Iam to blame" Not every game plan will work and if your players are marginally off beat they have little chance of success. I think way to much importance is put on the coach, I think most good teams when on song could win without a coach. I think the coaches main role rather than game plans is to inflate and deflate egos when required
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I don't think Tim's game plan was a bad kicking game ordinary kick and chase and letting the dogs get into out attacking zone too easily he may of said if we do basics well and put pressure on dogs we will win . but we did not do basics well . I must admit after Benji scored I expected us to score a couple of times and win by 6-8 Oh well …..
 
Imust admit balmain bug credit where credit is due & i agree with you i would havebrought moltzen on earlier the dogs the other night but the fonz is a good coach, but @ north q.l.d he was promised players & he never got them.
 
@Balmain Bug said:
Redemption- as soon as the Fonz was sacked from Nth QLD and
Murray Hurst took over, they finished in their highest position ever!! He doubled their winning perecentage to 51% !!!!

Then in 2003 when Graham Murray took over they had become a genuine premiership force in the space of 13 months after sacking the Fonz and getting rid of the years of on field mismanagement and bungled coaching decisions that the Fonz orchestrated.

As soo as he left the Cowboys blossomed and began to win.
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That is a complete fabrication bug!!!!

Murray Hurst as coach won a total of 6 games from 29!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A winning percentage of 20.7%!!!!! Where you got 51% from - I have no idea!!!! (I assume you just make this crap up & expect people to believe you without checking he facts!!!)

That is why he was sacked after 3 straight losses to open their 2002 campaign!!! They finished 13th in 2001 - & 11th in 2002 & 2003 under Murray!!! Hardly quality results - and then all of a sudden they bought Jonathon Thurston & their fortunes improved!!!

That did not happen "as soon as Sheens left" as you want to incorrectly claim!!!!

As for your lies that he has the worst winning percentage of any coach - his record with the Tigers is 47.5% (for a 49.9% career record) - Elliott's career record is 46% - Henry's is 39.8% - Cleary 48% - Furner 47.1%!!

Terry Lamb had a 32% record with the Tigers before Sheens took over!!!
 
Dont twist stats. he has the worst winning percentage of any coach who has coached for more than 2 years since the NRL began. That is fact.
 
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