Tigers want to lock up Sheens before rivals come knocking

[clontarfkid]

I thought I read somewhere that Benji waived his right to the get out clause in his last contract??
My guess is that having lost Bennett, Rusty is prepared to commit to a big $$,long term contract for a "name" coach like Sheens,which given Sheen's results over past few years we couldnt/shouldnt do unless he actually earns it with a very high finish this year.
Given these options,Sheens was always likely to take the money & run, & avoid scrutiny & accountability.
If he leaves we get some fresh ideas,hopefully a sensible recruitment & selection strategy, & someone who will actually address ongoing issues that never get fixed.
It gets better than that..Souths get someone who will almost automatically eliminate them as genuine contenders for the next 3 years!!
Win/win

 

[IronTiger]

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[happy_tiger]

I thought I read somewhere that Benji waived his right to the get out clause in his last contract??
My guess is that having lost Bennett, Rusty is prepared to commit to a big $$,long term contract for a "name" coach like Sheens,which given Sheen's results over past few years we couldnt/shouldnt do unless he actually earns it with a very high finish this year.
Given these options,Sheens was always likely to take the money & run, & avoid scrutiny & accountability.
If he leaves we get some fresh ideas,hopefully a sensible recruitment & selection strategy, & someone who will actually address ongoing issues that never get fixed.
It gets better than that..Souths get someone who will almost automatically eliminate them as genuine contenders for the next 3 years!!
Win/win

Who to coach then ???thats my issue . Aint a whole heap of talent out there who will coach here . Forget Bennett he won't be coming to the Tigers . Anyone else left is not as good as Sheens so why does anyone want to him to leave !!!

 

[redemption]

In 2002 Sheens was sacked after losing the first 4 games. Hurst took over and won 8 games. The Cowboys finished higher than they EVER had and Hurst success rate was 51% higher than that of the Fonz. He won 51% more games than the Fonz did for the previous season and the first four weeks.
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The writing is on the wall. The Fonz has not even acknowledged the first round of contract negotiations because he has been offered an amount that is disproportionate to what the going rates are for Veteran coaches.

I doubt he will hang around. He will go where the big cash is and where they falsely believe he is a winning coach.

That is total BS - check your facts!!! It was 2001 - not 2002 - that Hurst replaced Sheens (you have zero credibility when you cannot even get the year right!!!)

Hurst won 6 games from 29 (+ 2 draws) at 20.7% - that is the facts!!!

In 2000 they won 7 games under Sheens (who had a 29% success rate at the club) - how is 6 games 51% more than 7 you goose!!!

I repeat - you have ZERO CREDIBILITY IN YOUR FACTUALLY INCORRECT RANTINGS!!!!!!!!

 

[tig_prmz]

I personally love the culture Sheens has built over the years, and I love him for that. However, his continuous use of the bench and stupid team selections… he never seems to learn.

Thinking from strictly a point of view as Humphreys, I wouldn't mind letting go of Sheens.

However, I do acknowledge him for all the hard work he has put in for the club. If he wasn't there, maybe this club wouldn't be where it is. In saying that, I should feel obliged for him to stay at this club so that we can pay him back, as said by some posters before but I don't coz at the end club needs wins and money.

 

[larrycorowa]

Sheens would be a big loss. That said, it is not as if we have a team that needs a whole lot of teaching. Our style of play and roster is largely settled for the next few years and it looks like tried and trued systems and processes are in place. Maybe the place would benefit from a few fresh ideas and another voice.

Bottom line: would not be the end of the world.

 

[hammertime]

If true, its not good because as a few have pointed out, the quality coaching stocks are minimal. I'm guessing Folkes would step up.

Kearney would have been the coach I would have wanted to take Sheensy's spot, but he is taken now.

 

[Granto87]

Good old Roycie might be back, heard rusty offered Bennett 1 mil late last year so they have plenty of coin.

 

[alexaki]

I think we need a change anyway….watching the boys go around on Monday they looked flat; the plays were the same as last year...I think an injection of new blood and ideas will **freshen** the boys up just like Brian Smith did for Easts last year...

 

[Mrs_T]

I feel a little bit sick, surely this can't be true. 😱pen_mouth:

 

[innsaneink]

That clause was removed when Marshall signed until 2015.

Correct, Benji's a big boy now.
If Sheens goes so be it…life goes on, he will always hold a very very special place here though, despite his faults...of which we all possess.

 

[happy_tiger]

If it is true that Sheens is gone who would you like to see as a replacement coach ???

 

[Granto87]

If it is true that Sheens is gone who would you like to see as a replacement coach ???

Any one but ricky stewart

 

[Kul]

lol, anyone remember the "Farah 100% to the doggies" thread from a few years back?
Mulvi does :roll

 

[Icon]

If this is true i bet now we don't make the 8 this year. They'll come out and say it woun't effect anything, but i reckon the boys will be gutted, especially if the stories about how they stuck by him last year.

Thinking about it as i write this, Sheens deserves the guys getting pissed with him if he has done this.
The more i think about it i just can't believe it

But it would explain Monday's strange game.

 

[supercoach]

Always a chance it might be true, but at this stage its just a rumor thats being going around for a long time. My guess Folkes or Brown would be in the frame if Sheens did jump ship.

Souths will be offering him mega bucks, its now up to the board if they think its worth trying to come close with a offer or saving some substantial money by going for another option. At some stage Sheens and the club will end their occasion, it cant go on forever so maybe the time is right for change. From my point of view no one is indispensable and everyone has a maximum price. Its all about balance, but once again I stress at this stage its no more than a rumor

 

[clontarfkid]

I thought I read somewhere that Benji waived his right to the get out clause in his last contract??
My guess is that having lost Bennett, Rusty is prepared to commit to a big $$,long term contract for a "name" coach like Sheens,which given Sheen's results over past few years we couldnt/shouldnt do unless he actually earns it with a very high finish this year.
Given these options,Sheens was always likely to take the money & run, & avoid scrutiny & accountability.
If he leaves we get some fresh ideas,hopefully a sensible recruitment & selection strategy, & someone who will actually address ongoing issues that never get fixed.
It gets better than that..Souths get someone who will almost automatically eliminate them as genuine contenders for the next 3 years!!
Win/win

Who to coach then ???thats my issue . Aint a whole heap of talent out there who will coach here . Forget Bennett he won't be coming to the Tigers . Anyone else left is not as good as Sheens so why does anyone want to him to leave !!!

McGuire wants to come home,& is very good,& Daniel Anderson was promising at eels until management decided they could all do better.Regadless of whether u think Sheens can or cannot coach,he's simply been there too long,& either of these wld add to what we currently have

 

[clontarfkid]

I thought I read somewhere that Benji waived his right to the get out clause in his last contract??
My guess is that having lost Bennett, Rusty is prepared to commit to a big $$,long term contract for a "name" coach like Sheens,which given Sheen's results over past few years we couldnt/shouldnt do unless he actually earns it with a very high finish this year.
Given these options,Sheens was always likely to take the money & run, & avoid scrutiny & accountability.
If he leaves we get some fresh ideas,hopefully a sensible recruitment & selection strategy, & someone who will actually address ongoing issues that never get fixed.
It gets better than that..Souths get someone who will almost automatically eliminate them as genuine contenders for the next 3 years!!
Win/win

Who to coach then ???thats my issue . Aint a whole heap of talent out there who will coach here . Forget Bennett he won't be coming to the Tigers . Anyone else left is not as good as Sheens so why does anyone want to him to leave !!!

McGuire wants to come home,& is very good,& Daniel Anderson was promising at eels until management decided they could all do better.Regardless of whether u think Sheens can or cannot coach,he's simply been there too long,& either of these wld add to what we currently have

Niel Henty was good at Raiders,but theres something in Cowboys DNA which catches every coach.
Avoid the "pedestrian "achievers like nathan Brown & Jason taylor who really havent demonstrated they have the coaching smarts to make an impact.Im not sure where Folkes falls in all the above,but he could be a useful stopgap

 

[clontarfkid]

I thought I read somewhere that Benji waived his right to the get out clause in his last contract??
My guess is that having lost Bennett, Rusty is prepared to commit to a big $$,long term contract for a "name" coach like Sheens,which given Sheen's results over past few years we couldnt/shouldnt do unless he actually earns it with a very high finish this year.
Given these options,Sheens was always likely to take the money & run, & avoid scrutiny & accountability.
If he leaves we get some fresh ideas,hopefully a sensible recruitment & selection strategy, & someone who will actually address ongoing issues that never get fixed.
It gets better than that..Souths get someone who will almost automatically eliminate them as genuine contenders for the next 3 years!!
Win/win

Who to coach then ???thats my issue . Aint a whole heap of talent out there who will coach here . Forget Bennett he won't be coming to the Tigers . Anyone else left is not as good as Sheens so why does anyone want to him to leave !!!

McGuire wants to come home,& is very good,& Daniel Anderson was promising at eels until management decided they could all do better.Regardless of whether u think Sheens can or cannot coach,he's simply been there too long,& either of these wld add to what we currently have

Niel Henry was good at Raiders,but theres something in Cowboys DNA which catches every coach.
Avoid the "pedestrian "non achievers like nathan Brown & Jason taylor who really havent demonstrated they have the coaching smarts to make an impact.Im not sure where Folkes falls in all the above,but he could be a useful stopgap

 

[Balmain_Bug]

A lot of blokes wouldn't give a stuff if the Fonz left Wests Tigers. It is better for their development for a new person to come in.
Fonz is stale with his insane coaching and his inept lack of ability in motivating and firing up his players.

Last Monday, not one player revved the boys up. It was pretty poor, but hey, we are used to it these days .