Tim Simona - Deregistered

@Masterton said:
@southerntiger said:
@Masterton said:
@southerntiger said:
Of course the size of the bet matters. Any suggestion to the contrary is nonsensical puritanical rubbish.

I disagree. I'm a believer in second chances for stupid mistakes, but you just can not open the door to match fixers. How long before a shady character is blackmailing you. "Drop the ball in the first set or this will become public." These blokes are scum and will take any advantage they can.

So, you think that betting on the Eels v Sharks is the same as betting on the Tigers to lose by 12 and then proceeding to ensure that happens? Weird ethics.

Wha? That's got nothing to do with the SIZE of the bet.

Anyways, I'm not concerned with the ethics of the matter. While sympathetic to Simona (I've done stupid things in my time), he was well aware of the possible consequences, and the game needs to protect itself.

EDIT: Rereading your post, maybe you meant the size of the wrong-doing?

I meant both. A $10,000 bet is worse than a $5 bet. A bet combined with taking a dive is worse than a bet by itself.
 
While I agree a bet of any size breaks the rules of the game, the punishment should be judged on its own merit and not that of just breaking some law/policy. A judge in court would weighs up the evidence & intent behind the actions before handing down a final sentence. Crimes committed in the same category are not equal. A $10,000 wager to win/lose is not equal to a $10-20 exotic bet.

Salary cap breaching is a serious crime that effects the outcome of every match, as it gives 1 side a handicap over the other. Why doesn't the NRL come down hard & de-register clubs for a season before chasing trivial matters.
 
@southerntiger said:
I meant both. A $10,000 bet is worse than a $5 bet. A bet combined with taking a dive is worse than a bet by itself.

I agree they're not all exactly the same, but I'd suspend anyway.

I remember when I was a youngster working in a shop on the weekends, and one of the older fellas got caught with his hand in the till. He tried to explain that it was "only a little". You can imagine the bosses response.
 
@Masterton said:
@southerntiger said:
I meant both. A $10,000 bet is worse than a $5 bet. A bet combined with taking a dive is worse than a bet by itself.

I agree they're not all exactly the same, but I'd suspend anyway.

I remember when I was a youngster working in a shop on the weekends, and one of the older fellas got caught with his hand in the till. He tried to explain that it was "only a little". You can imagine the bosses response.

Im not arguing against a suspension, although there are other ways it could be dealt with.
 
Should explain that he was just letting Eddie Hayson use his account. That apparently gets you a severance payout from the club that you leave, and a 2 week rest.
 
I know no more than what was provided in the press release but Tim deserves the club's and fan's full support for his response to the accusations and for his wellbeing. I'm sure those on here who have determined his future already would expect the same for themselves or their loved ones.
 
I do not want to jump the gun and speculate what might or might not happen, but to think you might loose your job over a few small bets when players have done all sorts of nasty things and are still running around seems grossly unfair.
 
If you know the sort of punishment (they get educated regularly) and get caught placing 'small' bets then you are a complete idiot.

It's like robbing a bank and only taking $100.

Life - for stupidity
 
Again , I don't understand the fuss , if it was against the WT's and match fixing throw the book at him

Betting on other games , meh ….really ??
 
@happy tiger said:
Again , I don't understand the fuss , if it was against the WT's and match fixing throw the book at him

Betting on other games , meh ….really ??

Apparently backed himself for FTS and to score doubles
 
@innsaneink said:
@happy tiger said:
Again , I don't understand the fuss , if it was against the WT's and match fixing throw the book at him

Betting on other games , meh ….really ??

Apparently backed himself for FTS and to score doubles

We probably need more players to back themselves like this if anything!
 
@hammertime said:
@innsaneink said:
@happy tiger said:
Again , I don't understand the fuss , if it was against the WT's and match fixing throw the book at him

Betting on other games , meh ….really ??

Apparently backed himself for FTS and to score doubles

We probably need more players to back themselves like this if anything!

Until they start trying to score themselves rather than pass to their team-mate.
 
@innsaneink said:
@happy tiger said:
Again , I don't understand the fuss , if it was against the WT's and match fixing throw the book at him

Betting on other games , meh ….really ??

Apparently backed himself for FTS and to score doubles

Well if he backed himself than he certainly could plead insanity as the ball only ever went out his side about once a game last year
 
@Masterton said:
@hammertime said:
@innsaneink said:
@happy tiger said:
Again , I don't understand the fuss , if it was against the WT's and match fixing throw the book at him

Betting on other games , meh ….really ??

Apparently backed himself for FTS and to score doubles

We probably need more players to back themselves like this if anything!

Until they start trying to score themselves rather than pass to their team-mate.

Exactly. Backing yourself in a team sport doesn't work out.
 
Likely facing 6 games for betting, and 6 months for placing them with ab organisation other than the NRL corporate wagering partner.
 
@Harvey said:
Should explain that he was just letting Eddie Hayson use his account. That apparently gets you a severance payout from the club that you leave, and a 2 week rest.

Or a job as chief rugby league writer at the Telegraph.
 
@Masterton said:
@hammertime said:
@innsaneink said:
@happy tiger said:
Again , I don't understand the fuss , if it was against the WT's and match fixing throw the book at him

Betting on other games , meh ….really ??

Apparently backed himself for FTS and to score doubles

We probably need more players to back themselves like this if anything!

Until they start trying to score themselves rather than pass to their team-mate.

Was Rankin his winger?
 
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