Top 20 wests/tigers players from the past 20 years?

@redemption said:
Leeds at no. 2 is a joke (ahead of Brash - a NSW & Test stalwart at no. 6 - let alone Farah, Sironen, Elias & Hodgo)!

And Jack not on a list that includes Taylor & Langmack!

The writer needs a clue!
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x2… although, I think he needs a bullet!!! :bash
 
@redemption said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
I think the writer is spot on. The only issue I have is that Prince should be higher in 5th or 6th.

Garry Jack should not be in the list. **Jack's best years were in the 80's** and you would have to admit, Balmain had some pretty awful teams from about 1990 onwards. Wests managed to make the finals in 1991, 92 and 96 so I have no complaints with seeing players such as Taylor, Langmack and Leeds in the list. Each of them participated in at least one finals series with Langmack playing in all 3.

Leeds was an excellent and solid fullback, just needed a couple of extra yards of pace.

Think of some of the Wests players that did not get in the list. Mescia, Lidden, Gillespie, Thomas, Britt, Hill (Wests and Wests Tigers) and of course, Doug Rawlings.

Leeds ahead of Brasher - or Sirro??

And JT deserves a spot? His best footy was at Norths - while Langmack's best was at the Bulldogs in the 80s (same for Thomas, Gillespie and later Britt after leaving the Magpies)! Hill's best was at Manly (along with Cement again)!

You're kidding yourself mate!

And what about Kearney?
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I mean I liked Leeds as a player but comparing him to Hodgo or Brasher is in my opinion a joke. As for Skando I mean he is a club favorite but as a player I can't see him being any better than Mark O'Neill. They were journeyman players with average ability.

Jason Taylor is another player who really was simply a journeyman.

Basically I think the list is okay but a couple of players made it based on other criteria than being one of the top 20 players.

Still Benji, Farah, Ellis & Hodgo have been our best players. It is just that Leeds doesn't deserve to be up that high if at all on the list.
 
I know these things are subjective, but this list is so far off the mark it is not funny….you have to wonder what criteria was used. The best example is Andrew Leeds, who I loved as a player, but the second best player over the 2 clubs over the last 20 years, by what measure! He'd be the 3rd best fullback(brasher and Hodgo clearly more succesful in virtually any measure you like) if you dont count Gary Jack (given he was winding down in the 90's)
To include the likes of Kearney who really did not much at the Maggies, his best years were elsewhere. Terry hill played alot of rep footy as a magpie and with the merged club and got no run at all.
As I said they are subjective things, but this is clearly the writers favourite players, or a not very well thought out list at all
 
@Demps said:
MOST UNDER RATED PLAYER OF ALL TIME - GEOFF DANIELA
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You better be serious about this because for all normal appearances it would suggest you are trolling for a reponse Demps.

Daniela isn't bad…but he's hardly that great and certainly not good enough to get a starting spot over Lawrence and Ayshford.
 
I also agree w/ Ben Galea.
He's the man, but it's a shame Geoff Daniela doesn't get a run that often 'cause he's such a gun.
 
@redemption said:
Read it all & stronly disagree!

Sirro debuted in 85 & was a starter in the 90 & 94 Kangaroo tours GB - retiring in 98! Elias played (& captained) NSW from 90-94!

None of your picks made Origins or Tests in that period!

And what about Brash (6 to Leeds at 2)? Leeds never even made a City team!

**Wests slipped into the finals only to drop straight out mate!** Those individuals wouldn't make top grade nowadays!
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Elias and Sirro played more rep games than what they should. For years I cursed their selection. Balmain was at the bottom of the table, yet these two kept getting picked for NSW. They remained in the NSW side given their performances in the 80's and the fact NSW was dominant in the period. Selectors did not want to make too many changes.

If they were so bloody good, why didn't Balmain make the finals?
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@redemption said:
Maybe in a top 50!

You have a biassed & ignorant view of reality Alf!

I would've copped Mescia or Skando by the way!

And you are not biased?
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REDEMPTION has obviously lost the plot :crazy

John Skandalis was never underrated he has ALWAYS BEEN HIGHLY RATED both at Wests and the WESTS TIGERS…. :smiley:

<big>STILL IS</big> :wtf :sign:
 
Before this thread gets into a finger pointing war, please be mindful to stay on topic and understand that this thread is obviously VERY subjective. We've all got our own opinions on who should/should not be in the 20 best players, so if you don't agree with someone's selection, put a bit of thought into your responses rather than just saying people have no idea etc. We would prefer to keep this thread open rather than deleting posts and shutting it down.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@redemption said:
Read it all & stronly disagree!

Sirro debuted in 85 & was a starter in the 90 & 94 Kangaroo tours GB - retiring in 98! Elias played (& captained) NSW from 90-94!

None of your picks made Origins or Tests in that period!

And what about Brash (6 to Leeds at 2)? Leeds never even made a City team!

**Wests slipped into the finals only to drop straight out mate!** Those individuals wouldn't make top grade nowadays!

**Elias and Sirro played more rep games than what they should.** **For years I cursed their selection.** Balmain was at the bottom of the table, yet these two kept getting picked for NSW. They remained in the NSW side given their performances in the 80's and the fact NSW was dominant in the period. Selectors did not want to make too many changes.

**If they were so bloody good, why didn't Balmain make the finals?**
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What a joke!

Senter made the list & never played finals footy because he was a gun player in a weak team!

Balmain lacked quality halves in that period & their lack of success does not detract from the performances of Brasher, Sirro & Elias!

Your logic is flawed & your rating of Benny & Sirro leaves you with zero credibility! You evidently didn't watch much footy in the 90s!

The first year after Elias & Sirro retired from Origin (1995) NSW lost 3-0 - that is after we won 3 straight series WITH them (& you cursed their selection - enough said)!!!

And Elias was Man-of-the-Match in his LAST Origin game!!
 
@redemption said:
@Geo. said:
Under rated…<big>BEN GALEA</big>

Not by me!

He should have played Origin ahead of Ricketson!
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Heaven HELP US… Watto Geo and REDEMPTION agree 100 billion % on something...

WE HAVE OUR 1ST MIRACLE!!!!!!! :crazy
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@redemption said:
Read it all & stronly disagree!

Sirro debuted in 85 & was a starter in the 90 & 94 Kangaroo tours GB - retiring in 98! Elias played (& captained) NSW from 90-94!

None of your picks made Origins or Tests in that period!

And what about Brash (6 to Leeds at 2)? Leeds never even made a City team!

**Wests slipped into the finals only to drop straight out mate!** Those individuals wouldn't make top grade nowadays!

Elias and Sirro played more rep games than what they should. For years I cursed their selection. Balmain was at the bottom of the table, yet these two kept getting picked for NSW. They remained in the NSW side given their performances in the 80's and the fact NSW was dominant in the period. Selectors did not want to make too many changes.

If they were so bloody good, why didn't Balmain make the finals?
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Are you serious?? Elias was NSW captain in the early 90's and that was when was playing his best footy, He was MOM 4 times in the 90's!! the reason why Balmain was weak in the 90's was alot more to do with poor coaching, Alan Jones, namely, no halves and due to the success in the 80's never prepared for the future, and had a number or very weak players around these guys.

Sirro and Elias were very dominant players in the early 90's, and they were consistent performers at rep level in this era, Brasher in the mid 90's was almost a lone ranger at the tigers and to get picked at origin and test level so often from a weak side, shows what a great player he was.

I have no drama with Wests having a number of players in the top 20, given their success in the early 90's, but I think this list is crazy.

as i said I know these lists are subjective, but you wonder what criteria was used
 
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