TPA's and the salary cap

[steve-o]

Holding the Wests Tigers club accountable for performance, and lobbying the NRL for transparency and tighter rules around TPAs are not mutually exclusive. We as fans should be doing both.

There is no question that the current TPA set up is unfair. Being unhappy about the current rules does not make you a whinger. Nor does it mean we should allow the Wests Tigers club to use it as an excuse for our poor performances on the field.

 

[Geo]

^Yep, am aware what a TPA is.
You seem to be clued in about the whole TPA situation, so is there a limit on how much money a club as a whole is allowed to have sponsored to their players in TPA's?
If not and a club can have unlimited TPA's paid to their players then yes, it is very possible that a club's playing roster is worth twice as much as another club's.
What's stopping a James Packer type bloke sponsoring TPA's to every single player on his favourite club's roster?

I'll answer your question..Club affiliated TPA's are allowed in the Cap and are set at 600K…

Non-Affiliated TPA's (the one's we are talking about here) are un-capped and have No Limit as the intention is to allow the individual Player to supplement his Income with his own brand...They are not guaranteed by the Club and should be sourced by the individual player or player manager...They also are not intended to lure a player or keep a player at a certain Club...A TPA would travel with the Player should he change Clubs...

 

[happy_tiger]

Good to see you've fallen for the Greenberg spin BS. The competition is not even at all. The wooden spooners won 1 game for the year. In their premiership year not long ago the Roosters most weeks trotted out a whole team of 17 players who had played either International, Origin or City/Country. How is that possible in a fair comp?
It is the have's and the have-nots, anyone who believes the comp is fair and even has their head up their blurter IMO.

As i said. ..the whingers show their hand very early on. This club, supporters included needs to stop playing the victim and employ strategies that the successful clubs do.

FTB doesn't whinge Stryker

He just hates Storm players ,Qlders and supports clubs against the former who are probably very lucky not to be facing manslaughter charges

100% correct. Unsurprisingly it took you a few years to figure it out but you got there in the end.
As for the " manslaughter charges" re Cronulla….....I don't think the word "probably" carries much weight. Surely if there were such serious charges to arise out of that doping program then they would be facing massive legal action. Nothing has come of it as yet. So your slur is nothing more than an unfounded allegation eh?
Any shred of fact is always great when accusing anyone of wrongdoings.

I'm might be making an assumption and a few on here would definitely know better than I but the only reason that it hasn't gone further is because the family haven't pushed it further …....

Again I could be very wrong ......

 

[wmlmaster]

^Yep, am aware what a TPA is.
You seem to be clued in about the whole TPA situation, so is there a limit on how much money a club as a whole is allowed to have sponsored to their players in TPA's?
If not and a club can have unlimited TPA's paid to their players then yes, it is very possible that a club's playing roster is worth twice as much as another club's.
What's stopping a James Packer type bloke sponsoring TPA's to every single player on his favourite club's roster?

I'll answer your question..Club affiliated TPA's are allowed in the Cap and are set at 600K…

Non-Affiliated TPA's (the one's we are talking about here) are un-capped and have No Limit as the intention is to allow the individual Player to supplement his Income with his own brand...They are not guaranteed by the Club and should be sourced by the individual player or player manager...They also are not intended to lure a player or keep a player at a certain Club...**A TPA would travel with the Player should he change Clubs...**

I didn't know this about the TPA's, if this is the case I hope you can tell me what will happen if the TPA sponsor doesn't want their name affiliated with the new club that the player moves to? I would expect the TPA's to be legal binding agreements, can a TPA sponsor pull the plug at anytime without the threat of legal action from the player and his management?

 

[Geo]

^Yep, am aware what a TPA is.
You seem to be clued in about the whole TPA situation, so is there a limit on how much money a club as a whole is allowed to have sponsored to their players in TPA's?
If not and a club can have unlimited TPA's paid to their players then yes, it is very possible that a club's playing roster is worth twice as much as another club's.
What's stopping a James Packer type bloke sponsoring TPA's to every single player on his favourite club's roster?

I'll answer your question..Club affiliated TPA's are allowed in the Cap and are set at 600K…

Non-Affiliated TPA's (the one's we are talking about here) are un-capped and have No Limit as the intention is to allow the individual Player to supplement his Income with his own brand...They are not guaranteed by the Club and should be sourced by the individual player or player manager...They also are not intended to lure a player or keep a player at a certain Club...**A TPA would travel with the Player should he change Clubs...**

I didn't know this about the TPA's, if this is the case I hope you can tell me what will happen if the TPA sponsor doesn't want their name affiliated with the new club that the player moves to? I would expect the TPA's to be legal binding agreements, can a TPA sponsor pull the plug at anytime without the threat of legal action from the player and his management?

Non-Affiliated TPA's are intended to be with a player and a 3rd Party NOT associated with the Club…Any work a player does for the 3rd Party sponsor they are not allowed to wear any Club gear or have any current Club sponsors visible..Cameron Smith when he does stuff for VB or Billy Slater and his Queensland Banana commercials and Woodsey when he did some stuff for KFC had no Club gear...

It is a private arrangement between the Player and Sponsor...If a sponser was to withdraw a TPA if a player changed Clubs that would be between the 3rd Party and the Player...

As stated above Non-Affiliated TPA's are intended for a Player to supplement their income using their own brand...Not to entice a player to sign with a certain Club...wether that happens our not is a whole other debate...

 

[TCL]

The comp has never been more even.
Some clubs spend their money wisely…some not so much. Guess which group those who whinge belong to...

Good to see you've fallen for the Greenberg spin BS. The competition is not even at all. The wooden spooners won 1 game for the year. In their premiership year not long ago the Roosters most weeks trotted out a whole team of 17 players who had played either International, Origin or City/Country. How is that possible in a fair comp?
It is the have's and the have-nots, anyone who believes the comp is fair and even has their head up their blurter IMO.

As i said. ..the whingers show their hand very early on. This club, supporters included needs to stop playing the victim and employ strategies that the successful clubs do.

I have to agree with stryker on this one,good business stratergies and financial management are the keys to success… WTs are still suffering from mismanagement in previous years as many have said prior on this forum..once we have our finances in order and start getting a good bank of dollars behind us then we will be able to put good stratergies in place regarding player purchases etc...we are at the point where we have to start afresh so to speak so we can build our team further,we have the neucleas to build around,however we must be smarter and more diligent in future undertakings...

Isn't 2017 the last of the back ended deals and from 2018 we are in the clear. Im sure Pascoe and co have got all their ducks in a row, they seam to be more switched on than Mayer and co were.

 

[bigsiro]

The comp has never been more even.
Some clubs spend their money wisely…some not so much. Guess which group those who whinge belong to...

Good to see you've fallen for the Greenberg spin BS. The competition is not even at all. The wooden spooners won 1 game for the year. In their premiership year not long ago the Roosters most weeks trotted out a whole team of 17 players who had played either International, Origin or City/Country. How is that possible in a fair comp?
It is the have's and the have-nots, anyone who believes the comp is fair and even has their head up their blurter IMO.

As i said. ..the whingers show their hand very early on. This club, supporters included needs to stop playing the victim and employ strategies that the successful clubs do.

Agreed
Being the under dog is in this clubs DNA. The club and a lot of supporters love it, being the small dog in a big fight.
I'm sick of it.
It's time the club grew up.

Amen to that.

 

[stevetiger]

The comp has never been more even.
Some clubs spend their money wisely…some not so much. Guess which group those who whinge belong to...

I don't even think we have a bad roster. I think the cap is working well.

I think people on here like to whinge about nothing issues.