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TV Ted Ellery said:
The Republicans have won the popular vote once since 1988. It would take a hell of an effort to win it this time, even though I think Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will win the Electoral College vote comfortably.
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He has a 5 milion vote lead so far. Granted the west coast is yet to be revealed where Harris should return good results. That said, her returns are all down on 2020 so far and if that continues, he may get the full sweep.
 
jirskyr said:
I only really find it sad. So many humans are still fcked up, I naively thought we were getting somewhere as a species.
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LOL shut up, people like you are a big part of the problem....fair dinkum some people are so far up their own arse its scary.
 
jirskyr said:
Of course Harris got there on merit. Doesn't hurt her case that she's a black woman, but you can't become a Presidential candidate if you don't have some kind of strong ability, whether that be for positive or negative.

Joe Biden lost three primaries on his way to the top job, but that doesn't mean he was incapable of doing the top job once he got there. Currently the only person to have defeated Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon in an election. And anticipating comebacks about Biden not being a good president or being too old or some such, imagine therefore losing an election to Joe Biden, if he's so hopeless.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon for all his faults is an almost peerless communicator with his cohort and has an almost unprecedented ability to shrug off controversy. Very cult-like, but it's a cult he developed.
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Why doesn't that 'hurt her case'?

It should be completely irrelevant to 'her case'.
 
Kelce68 said:
You are, as is common, conflating Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the person with Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the administration. We have evidence of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon as POTUS, do we have evidence of Harris as POTUS?.....
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You keep making this point and if it was a different system I would agree, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the person and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the administrator are so intertwined. This is especially important because he has indicated a pretty clear agenda to do away with the checks and balances that kept his impulses in check last time. He has every intention of surrounding himself with sycophants and yes men. It will promote groupthink, which will lead to poorer and more extreme decision making.
 
TV Ted Ellery said:
If you're a betting man, you should jump on Harris at $7.50 now.

The electoral college vote will come down to Michigan, PA and Wisconsin with Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon likely to win the first two.

Early signs in PA are not good for Harris in particular.

Virigina, which was regarded a safe Blue state, will still likely go to Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, but the fact that it is still in play does not augur well elsewhere.
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Damn almost got her at $8. Worth a punt
 
Betterdays22 said:
You keep making this point and if it was a different system I would agree, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the person and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the administrator are so intertwined. This is especially important because he has indicated a pretty clear agenda to do away with the checks and balances that kept his impulses in check last time. He has every intention of surrounding himself with sycophants and yes men. It will promote groupthink, which will lead to poorer and more extreme decision making.
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Well, I've literally made it once...

... but I'm correct.

A curated and inflated public persona does not provide an ironclad indication of the outcomes of the administration that that person would lead.

This is especially important because he has indicated a pretty clear agenda to do away with the checks and balances that kept his impulses in check last time.
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PLEASE tell me this isn't in reference to him discussing the issues with the media and their biases these days.... You cannot be referring to MSNBC, NYT and the likes being the 'checks and balances'....surely.
 
I reckon Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will win PA, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada and Arizona while Harris will retain Wisconsin and pick up North Carolina. Results may take a few days to confirm but the winner should be known by tonight.
 
Bellend said:
All the 5 million illegals in the States better start packing.
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Official estimates of illegal migrants are around 11 million. If Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon does initiate mass deportations, reduce revenue through various promised tax cuts, gut the public service and impose tariffs across the board, you're going to see huge economic shock. Musk has confirmed as much. Whether it brings long-term benefits is doubtful, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be given the opportunity to deliver on his mandate.
 
Kelce68 said:
Well, I've literally made it once...

... but I'm correct.

A curated and inflated public persona does not provide an ironclad indication of the outcomes of the administration that that person would lead.


PLEASE tell me this isn't in reference to him discussing the issues with the media and their biases these days.... You cannot be referring to MSNBC, NYT and the likes being the 'checks and balances'....surely.
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It isn't his public persona, which I agree is performative and curated and resonates, it is his character. Reports from people that have known him, dealt with him. It is his numerous sexual assault allegations, dodgy business dealings and public statements before he decided to run for President. However you want to spin it, he is a man of questionable ethics and morals. This is all in the public domain and I cannot fathom how conservatives can excuse his behaviour.

So far off the mark with the media thing. I am as fed up and critical of the quality and discourse in mainstream media as anyone. I am also very critical of the agenda's and incentives in alternative media, which is where many people now solely get their information from. No not that.

It is the pretty publicly stated goals of Project 2025. It is pretty clearly stated the intent to slash the federal workforce and replace what’s left of it with Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon loyalists, who are only accountable to him. Literally gutting non-partisan experts in the civil service and replacing them with mates, it is the definition of group think.
 
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TV Ted Ellery said:
I reckon Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will win PA, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada and Arizona while Harris will retain Wisconsin and pick up North Carolina. Results may take a few days to confirm but the winner should be known by tonight.
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She'll be doing well to pickup NC from here.
 
Kelce68 said:
Why doesn't that 'hurt her case'?

It should be completely irrelevant to 'her case'.
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It should be irrelevant but it's not, let's not be blind. If you want to reach X type of voters, it doesn't hurt to have X type of person carry the message.

Also if it's irrelevant, why do Republican supporters keep making references to DEI hire? Why did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon continually raise questions about her race and other about her fitness as a mother, about the previous relationships she's had, about the fact her partner is Jewish etc.
 
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