VACCINATIONS

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Tigersmurf, I had whooping cough as a child and it is a torturing condition to have. I was about 8ish at the time. I remember it clearly as I often thought I was going to die. To this day I can't stand to be in a steamy room (as that was the treatment back then to clear the airways). The coughing fits were frightening and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I am all for vaccinations.
 
@BRET said:
Tigersmurf, I had whooping cough as a child and it is a torturing condition to have. I was about 8ish at the time. I remember it clearly as I often thought I was going to die. To this day I can't stand to be in a steamy room (as that was the treatment back then to clear the airways). The coughing fits were frightening and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I am all for vaccinations.

Tigersmurf ever seen this stuff?
http://www.supernaturalsilver.com/
 
Heard on the news tonight that they have now stopped giving kids under 5 years old the flu vaccination after "complications".
 
Hi Chilbury,

I have heard of this kid of stuff, isn't it a con?

By the way, does the guy have a tiger on his tie?
 
Toddler seasonal flu jabs on hold
KATE HAGAN
April 24, 2010
SEASONAL flu vaccinations across Australia for children under five have been suspended after 23 children in Western Australia were admitted to hospital with convulsions following their injections.

One child, aged 1, remains in a coma in a Perth hospital.

Commonwealth chief health officer Professor Jim Bishop yesterday announced the suspension while authorities urgently review data from around the country.

WA chief health officer Dr Tarun Weeramanthri told journalists that 44 children under 10 had been admitted to Perth's Princess Margaret Hospital for Children over the past month suffering febrile convulsions - fits or seizures due to high fever seen mainly in children.

He said 23 of those children had received flu injections in the previous 12 hours.

Authorities were still investigating whether the remaining 21 cases were connected to the vaccinations.

Another 40 children had been admitted to hospitals in WA over the same period suffering febrile convulsions, but it was not known whether they had received the flu vaccine.

Professor Bishop said a preliminary review by the Therapeutic Goods Administration had narrowed the problems to WA, but an expert group would work to identify any gaps.

Victorian Health Department spokesman Bram Alexander said he was unaware of any febrile convulsions connected to the vaccine in Victoria.

He said the Royal Children's Hospital had advised that it had not seen any increase in the number of children admitted with febrile convulsions since the start of the year.

All states have been asked to report any adverse reactions to the seasonal flu vaccine, including batch numbers and type of vaccine. Professor Bishop wants details by the end of next week.

Asked about the coming flu season, he said: ''We have a little bit of time but not much.''

He expected a mild season dominated by swine flu. He said the swine flu vaccine Panvax, already given to 8 million Australians, was ''safe and effective'' and available free.

Authorities will investigate whether the adverse reactions in WA are due to the vaccine itself. Professor Bishop said the maker of the vaccine, CSL, had been contacted to determine which batches had been sent to WA.

He said the seasonal flu vaccine had been well received by older children and adults, and people should be reassured that a potential problem had been detected.

A spokeswoman for the federal Health Department, Kay McNiece, said authorities were still working to find out how many seasonal flu vaccinations had been given this year.

Federal government figures show there were 655 suspected adverse reactions to the flu vaccine reported between 2004 and 2008\. About 8 million doses are administered each year.
 
There are no concrete links to the flu vaccinnations and these kids getting sick, so it's all just supposition.
 
There are no concrete links to the flu vaccinnations and these kids getting sick, so it's all just supposition.
 
<big>Flu jab fears grow as toddlers rushed to hospital</big>
Debbie Guest and Natasha Bita From: The Australian April 24, 2010 12:00AM

-Vaccine to stop seasonal and swine flu
-Has caused vomiting, fits and convulsions in children
-Was never tested clincally

CLINICAL tests were never carried out on the latest seasonal flu vaccine - a first-time combination of seasonal flu with the feared swine flu H1N1 - that has left a baby girl fighting for her life in a Perth hospital and sparked fits, fevers and vomiting in up to 60 toddlers across the country.
Health officials were last night trying to determine what had caused the reactions in the children, mostly in Western Australia.

The country's chief medical officer, Jim Bishop, yesterday ordered doctors in all states to stop giving the flu vaccine to children under five.

Professor Bishop said non-swine flu strains in the vaccine may have caused the reactions.

For the first time in the world, the flu shot rolled out in Australia last month combined two strains of seasonal flu, as well as H1N1.

Professor Bishop said the Panvax vaccine - the swine flu jab - was "safe", but said the combined flu shot had been suspended for young children as a "precautionary measure" pending investigation by the Therapeutic Goods Administration, which approved its use last month.

Panvax was tested on 400 children before its release last year, but the combined shot was not subjected to any clinical trials.

CSL, which manufactures both vaccines, has stopped distributing children's doses nationally "to reduce the risk of inadvertent administration in this age group".

One angry West Australian mother, who only wanted to be identified as Sharon, said if officials had acted earlier, the one-year-old girl in critical condition in hospital may never have become sick.

Sharon had three of her four children vaccinated two weeks ago and all three needed hospitalisation after suffering from fevers, vomiting and fits.

She said it was a frightening experience after her three-year-old, Alivia, turned purple and began shaking.

One of her one-year-old twins, Lateesha, later started convulsing.

Peter Richmond, associate professor at the University of Western Australia's school of pediatrics and child health, said the vaccine was not subjected to trials.

"As with each year's seasonal influenza vaccine, this year's seasonal influenza vaccine isn't subject to specific trials in children before it's used," he said.

http://www.news.com.au/national/flu-jab-fears-grow-as-toddlers-rushed-to-hospital/story-e6frfkw0-1225857716233" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
@Suzie-Q said:
There are no concrete links to the flu vaccinnations and these kids getting sick, so it's all just supposition.

Are you serious !!!! there are thousands and thousands of concrete evidence that vaccines are deadly to children and adults!!
Vaccination - The Hidden Truth
This is the shocking but extremely informative video documentary Vaccination - The Hidden Truth (1998) where fifteen people, including Dr. Viera Scheibner (a PhD researcher), five medical doctors, and other researchers, reveal what is really going on in relation to illness and vaccines. Ironically, the important facts come from orthodox medicine's own peer-reviewed research. With so much government and medical promotion of vaccination for prevention of disease, the video is clearly devoted to presenting the other side of the issue that parents and others are not being told. The result is a damning account of the ineffectiveness of vaccines and their often harmful effects.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. investigates the government cover-up of a mercury/autism scandal
In June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Georgia. Convened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the meeting was held at this Methodist retreat center, nestled in wooded farmland next to the Chattahoochee River, to ensure complete secrecy. The agency had issued no public announcement of the session – only private invitations to fifty-two attendees. There were high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturer, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur. All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly "embargoed." There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left.

The federal officials and industry representatives had assembled to discuss a disturbing new study that raised alarming questions about the safety of a host of common childhood vaccines administered to infants and young children. According to a CDC epidemiologist named Tom Verstraeten, who had analyzed the agency's massive database containing the medical records of 100,000 children, a mercury-based preservative in the vaccines -- thimerosal -- appeared to be responsible for a dramatic increase in autism and a host of other neurological disorders among children. "I was actually stunned by what I saw," Verstraeten told those assembled at Simpsonwood, citing the staggering number of earlier studies that indicate a link between thimerosal and speech delays, attention-deficit disorder, hyperactivity and autism. Since 1991, when the CDC and the FDA had recommended that three additional vaccines laced with the preservative be given to extremely young infants -- in one case, within hours of birth -- the estimated number of cases of autism had increased fifteenfold, from one in every 2,500 children to one in 166 children.
 
Parents are just to ashamed to know the facts because they have had there children Jabbed !!!
Autism spiked big time soon as the Australian government issued the MMR vaccines
same as in America and England..
look it up !!!!! open your eyes.
 
Research shows that diseases were in decline before the introduction of vaccines and so, from my point of view, vaccines don't work and simply aren't worth the risk … not only do we have the mercury issue to contend with but the other toxins, including formaldahyde (!) and also the effect the vaccines have on our blood/brain barrier
 
You are dreaming!

How did Mercury come into the argument?

Maybe the patients studied ate jelly beans - hey maybe that could be the link….we could be onto something.

You can pick any article you chose to support your argument against vaccinations, but until it is your kid with polio I don't think you could every truly understand how bad these diseases are. And since vaccinations they have been almost eradicated.
 
Tigersmurf I have no doubt alot of people in the past have been helped from different types of vaccines but you can't blame people for being concerned aswell. It is wrong to say that there are no links to these flu vaccinations and what is happening to these kids. They have stopped giving the kids the injections for a reason. There is a kid in Western Australia that is in a coma and alot of other kids that have had convulsions because of the injections. The vaccines weren't properly tested (I guess they have been tested now). This isn't just a batch from Western Australia. This is nation wide. I can show you news articles from the last few days where they have said there have been people in QLD and NSW that have had convulsions after taking the vaccine. It is no coincedence. The people are fine and then they have the injections and this happens to them. I'm sure you know what convulsions are. Something in the vaccine can cause abnormal brain function. Remember last year this was reported when people were getting the vaccines. It wasn't just kids either. I remember hearing in the news last year that someone got the vaccine and it effected his brain and he jumped off a balcony. There were a few things like that that happened last year and I'm sure alot of other things happened that wasn't reported. Also alot of people getting the vaccine could actually spread the virus quicker because the virus is actually in the injection. I think I'll give it a miss.
 
@Tigersmurf said:
You are dreaming!

How did Mercury come into the argument?

Maybe the patients studied ate jelly beans - hey maybe that could be the link….we could be onto something.

You can pick any article you chose to support your argument against vaccinations, but until it is your kid with polio I don't think you could every truly understand how bad these diseases are. And since vaccinations they have been almost eradicated.

Well your off your head lol
Polio was man made dude!!!!
most of them were and are!!
 
I'll go and fetch my tin foil hat and you can tell me all about vaccinations, vaccinations as a means of population tracking or mind control and than you can take me step by step through your utterly rediculous linkage of European historical legal documents and your misinterpretation of the constitution.

I will even bring cheese and crackers
 
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/flu-vaccination-ban-goes-national-after-fever-convulsions-in-children-20100423-tglp.html
since this year's vaccine program started a month ago, 23 children under the age of 10 had presented to Princess Margaret Hospital with convulsions related to vaccinations they had received less than 12 hours before.

Another 40 convulsion cases had been detected in the past month in children at other metropolitan hospitals and in Bunbury. Doctors are now working to determine how many of those children received the flu vaccine.

What does this tell you Smeg or are you still blind?
 
Yes I am blind to the big bad government. It is all a conspiracy.

Still waiting for the explanation on it all. I am just off to buy some tin foil and apply coat hangars to the roof.

Until you can give me a figure on how many children in each market received the vaccine than it is impossible to determine whether the reactions happened within an acceptable level. You would also need to relay information about the ethnicity of those affected by this vaccine in a negative way. Some racial groups are prone to react to medications in different ways.
 
@smeghead said:
Yes I am blind to the big bad government. It is all a conspiracy.

Still waiting for the explanation on it all. I am just off to buy some tin foil and apply coat hangars to the roof.

Until you can give me a figure on how many children in each market received the vaccine than it is impossible to determine whether the reactions happened within an acceptable level. You would also need to relay information about the ethnicity of those affected by this vaccine in a negative way. Some racial groups are prone to react to medications in different ways.

You know what!!! i,m not even going to waste my time with you
"Your just another fish destain to be caught and eaten "
 
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