VACCINATIONS

[system]

You know what!!! i,m not even going to waste my time with you
"Your just another fish destain to be caught and eaten "

It's amazing this is just like your thread on the constitution. Show you that your assumptions are completley innacurate or, in this case, ask for some factual information and not just diatribe and you go missing.

Answer honestly now.

* Are you a member of one or more consiracy websites or forums?

* Do you think that the internet organisation "Anonymous" are the only people searching for the truth?

 

[alien]

My sister and parents are throwing up and are very crook. I bet they don't love the vaccine now.

 

[chilbury]

You know what!!! i,m not even going to waste my time with you
"Your just another fish destain to be caught and eaten "

It's amazing this is just like your thread on the constitution. Show you that your assumptions are completley innacurate or, in this case, ask for some factual information and not just diatribe and you go missing.

Answer honestly now.

* Are you a member of one or more consiracy websites or forums?

* Do you think that the internet organisation "Anonymous" are the only people searching for the truth?
Flu shot fatality - toddler dies 12 hours after having vaccination

http://www.news.com.au/national/flu-shot-fatality-toddler-dies-12-hours-after-having-vaccination/story-e6frfkvr-1225857872979

 

[system]

Still haven't answered the question on percentages of children who have negatively been effected by the vaccine or any similarity in racial profile.

Any medical technology comes with a risk. I have family members for whom penecilin could send them into a severe allergic reaction and if the amount is high enough possibly kill them. Does this mean penecilin is a great evil of the world?

Any child dying is without doubt a tragedy but putting it down to brass taxes sometimes it happens and there is nothing to be done.

Every person and parent is free to make their own decision.

Also I have checked with several friends with young ones. Their doctors have told them universally that they do not reccommend a flu shot for children under the age of five.

 

[chilbury]

Still haven't answered the question on percentages of children who have negatively been effected by the vaccine or any similarity in racial profile.

Any medical technology comes with a risk. I have family members for whom penecilin could send them into a severe allergic reaction and if the amount is high enough possibly kill them. Does this mean penecilin is a great evil of the world?

Any child dying is without doubt a tragedy but putting it down to brass taxes sometimes it happens and there is nothing to be done.

Every person and parent is free to make their own decision.

Also I have checked with several friends with young ones. Their doctors have told them universally that they do not reccommend a flu shot for children under the age of five.

Wrong most schools in Australia wont let pupils in unless they have has Vaccinations…
You can denied it all you want the facts !!
Now!!! the doctors are saying every child under 5 should not get the flu shot up until 3 days ago...

 

[system]

Firstly you may want to reconsider structuring sentences that mean something "You can denied it all you want the facts !!" is amusing but makes very little sense

Was talking about flu vaccines. Not measels, mumps etc. Those are the vaccines schools require. These are not the vaccines which you are linking to these convulsions etc. Whilst making large jumps with no logical link may be all very well and good for you some people require it.

As for the doctors I can categorically state you are wrong as the people I have reffered to had these conversations with their GP at the beginning of March. With one of my friends the conversation took place discussing their 3 year old daughter in 2008

 

[alien]

<big>Flu shot fatality - toddler dies 12 hours after having vaccination</big>
By Suellen Hinde From: The Sunday Mail (Qld) April 25, 2010 1:40AM

-Twins given flu job; Ashley dies
-Authorities caution jab for under-5s
-Girl, 2, was fine 12 hours earlier

A FAMILY is in mourning after their toddler unexpectedly died less than 12 hours after receiving a seasonal flu vaccination.
Two-year-old twin Ashley Jade Epapara had been "perfectly fine" before dying at her Upper Mt Gravatt home, on Brisbane's southside, on April 9\. Parents David and Nicole are shattered by the mysterious death of their baby girl. "It's dreadful, it's a very hard time," Mr Epapara said yesterday.

National health authorities have ordered doctors to stop giving seasonal influenza vaccinations to children under five after dozens of serious reactions, including convulsions.

Ashley's death is being investigated by police and the office of the coroner. A spokesman for Brisbane coroner John Lock confirmed yesterday that a report was being prepared.

Mrs Epapara told The Sunday Mail that "tests are being carried out" on her little girl. But the young mother didn't want to comment further as she began shaking and her eyes welled with tears. Ashley's twin sister, Jaime, also received the flu jab at the same time and is believed to have been vomiting the night before her sister died.

Asked whether he or his wife thought the influenza vaccine had anything to do with their child's death, Mr Epapara said: "It's very coincidental."

More than 45 children experienced convulsions and fever, with some having to be taken to hospital in intensive care after receiving the vaccine in Western Australia.

Queensland chief health officer Jeannette Young confirmed 15 children in Queensland had been recorded as having an adverse reaction to the vaccine.

Australia's chief medical officer Professor Jim Bishop said in a statement that the West Australian events were being "urgently investigated by health experts and the Therapeutic Goods Administration".

The World Health Organisation last year said a "small number of deaths" had occurred in people vaccinated for influenza, with 65 million people vaccinated globally.


David and Nicole Epapara with their children.

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[alien]

They are rushing these flu/swineflu vaccines through without proper testing. The government give the manufactures of the vaccines legal immunity so no one will be held accountable even though a kid has been sacrificed. They are basically being tested on people. They have now stopped giving them to young kids after 1 has died in QLD, 1 is in a coma in WA, and dozens around the country have gone into convulsions and alot more around the country are very sick. This is all within the last week. Also something in these vaccines causes abnormal brain activity and it affects the young kids even more because their brains are still developing. I also blame the media for this for scaring people into taking the vaccine by making the swine flu sound worse than the regular flu. If they keep scaring people into getting the vaccines every year then something/somethings in the vaccine (I am not sure if it's the mercury) will continue to build up in their body and there could be serious problems.

 

[system]

Spoke to another parent of kids this evening. Doctors have told her that prior to the age of 10 the vaccine is not something he would reccommend unless in exceptional circumstances.

Goes to show the value of a good GP

 

[alien]

Spoke to another parent of kids this evening. Doctors have told her that prior to the age of 10 the vaccine is not something he would reccommend unless in exceptional circumstances.

Goes to show the value of a good GP

Is that just this years vaccine?

 

[system]

Any flu vaccine. This advice was given several years ago.

 

[alien]

Any flu vaccine. This advice was given several years ago.

Yet heaps of other doctors give thousands of kids the vaccine. Are these other doctors bad or just ignorant?

 

[chilbury]

Any flu vaccine. This advice was given several years ago.

Yet heaps of other doctors give thousands of kids the vaccine. Are these other doctors bad or just ignorant?

This Video tell you everything OPEN your EYES!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry7toSjjgXE

20 years ago in Australia 1 in 100,000 had some form of Autism
Now its 1/500 children have it
since they introduced the MMR vaccine !!!
All children who haven't had the MMR Vaccine has no Autism !!!
Work that out?

 

[system]

:laughing:

Of course it is all the vaccines. Nothing to do with other environmental factors at all.

But I guess this is all a worldwide conspiracy run by the Jews to make money off the suffering of others

 

[system]

For another explanation of course

The MMR vaccine controversy refers to claims that autism can be caused by the MMR vaccine, a vaccine against measles, mumps, and rubella. The scientific consensus is that no credible evidence links the vaccine to autism, and that the vaccine's benefits greatly outweigh its risks. The controversy led to sharp drops in vaccination rates in the UK and Ireland,[1] which in turn led to greatly increased incidence of measles and mumps, resulting in a few deaths and some severe and permanent injuries.[2]

Claims of a connection between the vaccine and autism were raised in a 1998 paper in the respected British medical journal The Lancet.[3] It was later discovered that Andrew Wakefield, the paper's lead author, had received major funding from British trial lawyers seeking evidence against vaccine manufacturers.[4] Ten of the paper's twelve coauthors retracted its interpretation of an association between MMR vaccine and autism.[5] It was also discovered that Wakefield had previously filed for a patent on a rival vaccine using technology that lacked scientific credibility, and that Wakefield knew but did not publish test results that contradicted his theory by showing that no measles virus was found in the children tested.[6] In 2009, The Sunday Times reported that Wakefield had manipulated patient data and misreported results in his 1998 paper, creating the appearance of a link with autism.[7] A special court convened in the United States to review claims under the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program ruled on February 12, 2009 that parents of autistic children are not entitled to compensation in their contention that certain vaccines caused autism in their children.[8][9] The Lancet fully retracted the 1998 paper on February 2, 2010.[10]

Following the initial claims in 1998, multiple large epidemiologic studies were undertaken. Reviews of the evidence by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,[11] the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences,[12] the UK National Health Service,[13] and the Cochrane Library[14] all found no link between the vaccine and autism. The Cochrane Library's systematic review also concluded that the vaccine has prevented diseases that still carry a heavy burden of death and complications, and that the lack of confidence in the vaccine has damaged public health.[14]

 

[chilbury]

Vaccines contain either inactivated (killed) bacteria or viruses or they contain live viruses that have been attenuated (weakened). Sometimes, live-virus vaccines can cause the disease they are designed to prevent. The live-virus polio, measles and chickenpox vaccines can cause vaccine-strain infections of these diseases. Drug corporations grow the viruses and bacteria used to make vaccines in either chicken or pig embryonic cell cultures, monkey kidney cells, human embryonic lung cells, yeast cells, or other mediums. Chemicals such as formaldehyde are used to inactivate the viruses or bacteria. Vaccines also contain such additives as aluminum, thimerosal (mercury), gelatin and antibiotics.

It is not clear that the increased use of vaccines always promotes the health of individuals. No vaccine is 100% safe or effective. We hear persistent reports that some children, following vaccination, develop chronic health problems such as seizure disorders, asthma, persistent ear infections, learning disabilities, hyperactivity, autism, diabetes, arthritis, or other autoimmune or neurological disorders. Virginia's Lieutenant Governor John Hager is in a wheelchair because he acquired polio from the vaccine given to his infant son.

Between 12,000 and 14,000 reports of hospitalizations, injuries and even deaths following vaccination are reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System every year. The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has already paid out $925 million in claims for vaccine-caused injuries and deaths. Nobody knows the real total of adverse reactions following vaccinations because very few doctors report vaccine-associated health problems.

When we ask questions of the scientists who created the vaccines, the drug corporations that make and sell them, the public health officials who issue regulations, and the legislators who pass laws forcing every child to be vaccinated, the answers are unsatisfactory and disturbing. The more we ask questions, the more we find that the subject of vaccines is not all based on science – some of it is politics.

Many vaccines are required without publication of the risks and benefits. The vaccine establishment's attitude is that such information unduly alarms parents and, anyway, the government knows what's best for children
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WHAT IS IN A SHOT?

These are just some of the ingredients used to make a vaccine.

* Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
* Phenol also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye)
* Formaldehyde a known cancer causing agent
* Aluminum which is associated with Alzheimer disease and seizures also cancer producing in laboratory mice
(it is used as an additive to promote antibody response)
* Thimerosal (used as a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury and autoimmune disease
* Neomycin, Streptomycin (used as antibiotic) have caused allergic reactions in some people

These vaccines are grown and strained through animal or human tissues like monkey kidney tissue, chicken embryo, embryonic guinea pig cells, calf serum, human diploid cells (the dissected organs of aborted fetuses as in the case of rubella, hepatitis A, and chickenpox vaccines)

The problem with animal cells is that during serial passage of the virus through the animal cells, is that animal RNA and DNA can be transferred from one host to another and undetected animal viruses may slip past quality control testing procedures as in 1955 through 1961 with SV40 which stands for simian #40 (meaning the 40th virus found) which has oncogenic properties (causing cancer) What other viruses could be slipping by that we don't know of?

 

[alien]

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[BRET]

What about the fact the food we eat is so full of preservatives and the like now? The food we eat is said to be increasing Cancers, why wouldn't this also be an avenue to explore for the rise in Autism as well?

 

[alien]

It is. Fish in many ways is very good for you but it also contains mercury which has been linked to cancer.

 

[system]

What about the fact the food we eat is so full of preservatives and the like now? The food we eat is said to be increasing Cancers, why wouldn't this also be an avenue to explore for the rise in Autism as well?

Exactly. The food we eat and the preservatives now contained therein, the use of technology for which there has been no study on it's long term effects on the genome and all of the white noise electrical interference constantly in our atmosphere.

Sometimes vaccines have bad effects and it is sad but child mortality has been greatly reduced since their introduction.

It is a serious issue and not one for scare mongers looking for cheap methods to manipulate opinions