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@Tigerboy said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130867) said:@jadtiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130864) said:@hammertime said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130837) said:@jadtiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130835) said:@gallagher said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130827) said:@Bones said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130810) said:@Russell said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130791) said:@Sco77y said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130771) said:@Bones said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130766) said:I don’t think it was so much us finding a way to win as the Dragons found a way to lose.
There were lots of positives but there is also a lot to correct or we’ll get touched up next week.
Yeah I tend to agree more with this. Some really good signs, but we should have lost that game. If the Dragons don’t miss a couple of absolute sitters of opportunities then we were in trouble.
Maybe if that poor excuse for a footballer, we have on the left wing, can catch and hold a ball, that would have negated a couple of the opposition missed chances.
Maybe but it’s more about the fact we gave them chances.
We made a lot of stupid errors and put ourselves under more pressure than we needed to be. The way the Dragons opened us up a number of times despite having no ball In the second half is still a worry.
I think you’ll find the wing position will change once Mbye or Momirovski are fit/available anyhow.
A couple of really bad miss tackes by Benji late has me wondering if he has 80 mins in him.
That is a fair comment and with better execution in the last 10 minutes dragons score twice going through Benjis position.He is still a gifted player and was magnificent yesterday but age has slowed him down, he needs a minder in defence
He shouldn't have been left 1-on-1 with Frizell. Tough for anyone!
Off course its tough which is why he needs a minder defensively.There is no shame in it but at his age it is very difficult for him
Disagree. BJ let him down on the first break and Benj scrambled VERY well - maybe hurt himself.
Second one was vintage Marshall and I’ll take a singular missed tackle all day for the sensible and successful attacking game he played.
@hammertime said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130910) said:@Tigerboy said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130867) said:@jadtiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130864) said:@hammertime said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130837) said:@jadtiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130835) said:@gallagher said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130827) said:@Bones said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130810) said:@Russell said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130791) said:@Sco77y said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130771) said:@Bones said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130766) said:I don’t think it was so much us finding a way to win as the Dragons found a way to lose.
There were lots of positives but there is also a lot to correct or we’ll get touched up next week.
Yeah I tend to agree more with this. Some really good signs, but we should have lost that game. If the Dragons don’t miss a couple of absolute sitters of opportunities then we were in trouble.
Maybe if that poor excuse for a footballer, we have on the left wing, can catch and hold a ball, that would have negated a couple of the opposition missed chances.
Maybe but it’s more about the fact we gave them chances.
We made a lot of stupid errors and put ourselves under more pressure than we needed to be. The way the Dragons opened us up a number of times despite having no ball In the second half is still a worry.
I think you’ll find the wing position will change once Mbye or Momirovski are fit/available anyhow.
A couple of really bad miss tackes by Benji late has me wondering if he has 80 mins in him.
That is a fair comment and with better execution in the last 10 minutes dragons score twice going through Benjis position.He is still a gifted player and was magnificent yesterday but age has slowed him down, he needs a minder in defence
He shouldn't have been left 1-on-1 with Frizell. Tough for anyone!
Off course its tough which is why he needs a minder defensively.There is no shame in it but at his age it is very difficult for him
Disagree. BJ let him down on the first break and Benj scrambled VERY well - maybe hurt himself.
Second one was vintage Marshall and I’ll take a singular missed tackle all day for the sensible and successful attacking game he played.
I actually think the second one forced the error from Frizell with his positioning in between him and the support players.
@Tigerboy said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130867) said:@jadtiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130864) said:@hammertime said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130837) said:@jadtiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130835) said:@gallagher said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130827) said:@Bones said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130810) said:@Russell said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130791) said:@Sco77y said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130771) said:@Bones said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130766) said:I don’t think it was so much us finding a way to win as the Dragons found a way to lose.
There were lots of positives but there is also a lot to correct or we’ll get touched up next week.
Yeah I tend to agree more with this. Some really good signs, but we should have lost that game. If the Dragons don’t miss a couple of absolute sitters of opportunities then we were in trouble.
Maybe if that poor excuse for a footballer, we have on the left wing, can catch and hold a ball, that would have negated a couple of the opposition missed chances.
Maybe but it’s more about the fact we gave them chances.
We made a lot of stupid errors and put ourselves under more pressure than we needed to be. The way the Dragons opened us up a number of times despite having no ball In the second half is still a worry.
I think you’ll find the wing position will change once Mbye or Momirovski are fit/available anyhow.
A couple of really bad miss tackes by Benji late has me wondering if he has 80 mins in him.
That is a fair comment and with better execution in the last 10 minutes dragons score twice going through Benjis position.He is still a gifted player and was magnificent yesterday but age has slowed him down, he needs a minder in defence
He shouldn't have been left 1-on-1 with Frizell. Tough for anyone!
Off course its tough which is why he needs a minder defensively.There is no shame in it but at his age it is very difficult for him
Disagree. BJ let him down on the first break and Benj scrambled VERY well - maybe hurt himself.
Second one was vintage Marshall and I’ll take a singular missed tackle all day for the sensible and successful attacking game he played.
@OzLuke said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130926) said:@Tigerboy said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130867) said:@jadtiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130864) said:@hammertime said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130837) said:@jadtiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130835) said:@gallagher said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130827) said:@Bones said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130810) said:@Russell said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130791) said:@Sco77y said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130771) said:@Bones said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130766) said:I don’t think it was so much us finding a way to win as the Dragons found a way to lose.
There were lots of positives but there is also a lot to correct or we’ll get touched up next week.
Yeah I tend to agree more with this. Some really good signs, but we should have lost that game. If the Dragons don’t miss a couple of absolute sitters of opportunities then we were in trouble.
Maybe if that poor excuse for a footballer, we have on the left wing, can catch and hold a ball, that would have negated a couple of the opposition missed chances.
Maybe but it’s more about the fact we gave them chances.
We made a lot of stupid errors and put ourselves under more pressure than we needed to be. The way the Dragons opened us up a number of times despite having no ball In the second half is still a worry.
I think you’ll find the wing position will change once Mbye or Momirovski are fit/available anyhow.
A couple of really bad miss tackes by Benji late has me wondering if he has 80 mins in him.
That is a fair comment and with better execution in the last 10 minutes dragons score twice going through Benjis position.He is still a gifted player and was magnificent yesterday but age has slowed him down, he needs a minder in defence
He shouldn't have been left 1-on-1 with Frizell. Tough for anyone!
Off course its tough which is why he needs a minder defensively.There is no shame in it but at his age it is very difficult for him
Disagree. BJ let him down on the first break and Benj scrambled VERY well - maybe hurt himself.
Second one was vintage Marshall and I’ll take a singular missed tackle all day for the sensible and successful attacking game he played.
That's one thing I noticed about BJ, once the break was made he stopped running, and left it a 4 on 2. Now if the play broke down a different way and not on a forward pass there would have been no defender, whereas the only other Tiger tracking back to make the tackle was Taylor. I thought that was poor attitude.
Secondly, There was no way any fullback would've done better on the dragons' first try. Freak bounce caught everybody off guard. I personally thought they were lucky to get the penalty try because everyone had run past the ball after it bounced. Their second try??? nobody can say anything about it apart from a bad mistake.
@Tigerboy said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130949) said:@OzLuke said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130926) said:@Tigerboy said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130867) said:@jadtiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130864) said:@hammertime said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130837) said:@jadtiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130835) said:@gallagher said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130827) said:@Bones said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130810) said:@Russell said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130791) said:@Sco77y said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130771) said:@Bones said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130766) said:I don’t think it was so much us finding a way to win as the Dragons found a way to lose.
There were lots of positives but there is also a lot to correct or we’ll get touched up next week.
Yeah I tend to agree more with this. Some really good signs, but we should have lost that game. If the Dragons don’t miss a couple of absolute sitters of opportunities then we were in trouble.
Maybe if that poor excuse for a footballer, we have on the left wing, can catch and hold a ball, that would have negated a couple of the opposition missed chances.
Maybe but it’s more about the fact we gave them chances.
We made a lot of stupid errors and put ourselves under more pressure than we needed to be. The way the Dragons opened us up a number of times despite having no ball In the second half is still a worry.
I think you’ll find the wing position will change once Mbye or Momirovski are fit/available anyhow.
A couple of really bad miss tackes by Benji late has me wondering if he has 80 mins in him.
That is a fair comment and with better execution in the last 10 minutes dragons score twice going through Benjis position.He is still a gifted player and was magnificent yesterday but age has slowed him down, he needs a minder in defence
He shouldn't have been left 1-on-1 with Frizell. Tough for anyone!
Off course its tough which is why he needs a minder defensively.There is no shame in it but at his age it is very difficult for him
Disagree. BJ let him down on the first break and Benj scrambled VERY well - maybe hurt himself.
Second one was vintage Marshall and I’ll take a singular missed tackle all day for the sensible and successful attacking game he played.
That's one thing I noticed about BJ, once the break was made he stopped running, and left it a 4 on 2. Now if the play broke down a different way and not on a forward pass there would have been no defender, whereas the only other Tiger tracking back to make the tackle was Taylor. I thought that was poor attitude.
Secondly, There was no way any fullback would've done better on the dragons' first try. Freak bounce caught everybody off guard. I personally thought they were lucky to get the penalty try because everyone had run past the ball after it bounced. Their second try??? nobody can say anything about it apart from a bad mistake.
Agree on your first, but not second point. Attitude/fitness for BJ but Marshall was key at shutting down both the plays really , on his own without assistance from Thommo.
As I’ve said, he obviously tries his guts out but both efforts *can* be classed as failures in the 1.
People are using round one and the wetness as an excuse (somewhat rightly so) but to be serious considerations come September time this year - you need to practise accountability.
In the past we haven’t been able to due to depth
Or discipline. This is where I see Thompson losing out sooner rather than later with Madge’s long term strategy - obviously doesn’t want CT on a wing yet- but of course it’s an opinion.
Completely respect yours at the same time !
@JoshColeman99 said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1130957) said:I know dragons bombed a few tries but we missed some easy chances too. Jennings definitely should’ve scored two tries and Thompson probably should’ve scored when he scooted out of dummy half right at the try line.
@Russell said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131027) said:I can understand Thomo being criticised for spilling the ball to let Lomax score, but....
The first error, he is copping heaps for, yet Garner, who missed the original tackle on Ravalawa upfield doesn't hardly even get a mention for his mistake. If he makes the tackle - Thomo is home free.
The other thing I noticed in that same try - Garner in a 60 metre chase after Ravalawa beat Jennings to our try line.
A winger that is super quick, super fit this year - that can't beat a second rower...Sheeesh!!!!!
@Russell said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131027) said:I can understand Thomo being criticised for spilling the ball to let Lomax score, but....
The first error, he is copping heaps for, yet Garner, who missed the original tackle on Ravalawa upfield doesn't hardly even get a mention for his mistake. If he makes the tackle - Thomo is home free.
The other thing I noticed in that same try - Garner in a 60 metre chase after Ravalawa beat Jennings to our try line.
A winger that is super quick, super fit this year - that can't beat a second rower...Sheeesh!!!!!
@Geo said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131044) said:Why do we all have to blame someone ..I'm guilty as well in relation to Jennings yesterday...fact is all players make mistakes from time to time..it's how you recover from errors..in the past Wests Tigers have folded like a cheap deck in times of adversity..Yesterday we fought back despite the errors it is actually a positive...given it was the 1st game of the season with a lot of new faces..
@Geo said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131044) said:Why do we all have to blame someone ..I'm guilty as well in relation to Jennings yesterday...fact is all players make mistakes from time to time..it's how you recover from errors..in the past Wests Tigers have folded like a cheap deck in times of adversity..Yesterday we fought back despite the errors it is actually a positive...given it was the 1st game of the season with a lot of new faces..
@happy_tiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131049) said:@Geo said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131044) said:Why do we all have to blame someone ..I'm guilty as well in relation to Jennings yesterday...fact is all players make mistakes from time to time..it's how you recover from errors..in the past Wests Tigers have folded like a cheap deck in times of adversity..Yesterday we fought back despite the errors it is actually a positive...given it was the 1st game of the season with a lot of new faces..
Well I reckon Douehi should have got first shot at the fullback jersey ...Thompson's game confirmed my opinion
Maybe Madge is right by fitting his best 17 into the squad ...but when Mbye and Brooks return Douehi needs to be in the 1 jersey ....shouldn't need a 2nd thought
@Geo said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131044) said:Why do we all have to blame someone ..I'm guilty as well in relation to Jennings yesterday...fact is all players make mistakes from time to time..it's how you recover from errors..in the past Wests Tigers have folded like a cheap deck in times of adversity..Yesterday we fought back despite the errors it is actually a positive...given it was the 1st game of the season with a lot of new faces..
@hobbo1 said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131051) said:@happy_tiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131049) said:@Geo said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131044) said:Why do we all have to blame someone ..I'm guilty as well in relation to Jennings yesterday...fact is all players make mistakes from time to time..it's how you recover from errors..in the past Wests Tigers have folded like a cheap deck in times of adversity..Yesterday we fought back despite the errors it is actually a positive...given it was the 1st game of the season with a lot of new faces..
Well I reckon Douehi should have got first shot at the fullback jersey ...Thompson's game confirmed my opinion
Maybe Madge is right by fitting his best 17 into the squad ...but when Mbye and Brooks return Douehi needs to be in the 1 jersey ....shouldn't need a 2nd thought
But Doohey is a 5/8
@Geo said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131056) said:@hobbo1 said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131051) said:@happy_tiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131049) said:@Geo said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131044) said:Why do we all have to blame someone ..I'm guilty as well in relation to Jennings yesterday...fact is all players make mistakes from time to time..it's how you recover from errors..in the past Wests Tigers have folded like a cheap deck in times of adversity..Yesterday we fought back despite the errors it is actually a positive...given it was the 1st game of the season with a lot of new faces..
Well I reckon Douehi should have got first shot at the fullback jersey ...Thompson's game confirmed my opinion
Maybe Madge is right by fitting his best 17 into the squad ...but when Mbye and Brooks return Douehi needs to be in the 1 jersey ....shouldn't need a 2nd thought
But Doohey is a 5/8
You question the 50 time premiership winning Coach of the Gladstone Under 12's...?
@Geo said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131056) said:@hobbo1 said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131051) said:@happy_tiger said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131049) said:@Geo said in [We survived\.\.\.it all\.\.\.\!](/post/1131044) said:Why do we all have to blame someone ..I'm guilty as well in relation to Jennings yesterday...fact is all players make mistakes from time to time..it's how you recover from errors..in the past Wests Tigers have folded like a cheap deck in times of adversity..Yesterday we fought back despite the errors it is actually a positive...given it was the 1st game of the season with a lot of new faces..
Well I reckon Douehi should have got first shot at the fullback jersey ...Thompson's game confirmed my opinion
Maybe Madge is right by fitting his best 17 into the squad ...but when Mbye and Brooks return Douehi needs to be in the 1 jersey ....shouldn't need a 2nd thought
But Doohey is a 5/8
You question the 50 time premiership winning Coach of the Gladstone Under 12's...?