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We will make the 8
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MacDougall
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@GNR4LIFE said:I could give some long winded, intellectual reply as a rebuttal to that, but no, you are wrong. Thats all thats needed here.
Yeah I dunno. Is it really? I mean is it really needed? You've offered nothing except an attempt to belittle two people at the same time from what I can see.
happy_tiger
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@tigsta said:@happy tiger said:@tigsta said:I think everyone has over exaggerated our performance yesterday including me. But I don't think it is as drastic as everyone is making it out to be.
Most had a bad game yes but it's round 1 and they will be better from that loss.
I can't remember what round it was but in mid 2005 we copped a smashing from the broncos and most had a bad game. They happen. Players move on and are better from it.
I tip the tigers to win the next two rounds.
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Tigsta remember the on cost game well
We bombed so many tries in the last 15 minutes it was ridiculous
This side isn't 2005
ITS 2014 and the game is soooooo different
I honestly wish people would shut up about 2005
Let's create some new history we can be proud of
Chill. I was just pointing out a significant loss we suffered in a successful year.
We will be fine.
I think there were a lot of excited fans wanting to see a big win from us yesterday and are now crying like little girls over it.
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I just wanted to see a change in attitude and some accountability
Unfortunately saw neither yesterday
Just another rerun of Gilligans Island
@tigsta said:I think everyone has over exaggerated our performance yesterday including me. But I don't think it is as drastic as everyone is making it out to be.
Most had a bad game yes but it's round 1 and they will be better from that loss.
I can't remember what round it was but in mid 2005 we copped a smashing from the broncos and most had a bad game. They happen. Players move on and are better from it.
I tip the tigers to win the next two rounds.
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Now you're just being silly …. if we actually win two rounds all year I will be pleasantly surprised ...
supercoach
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Have not got a crystal ball, but looking at all the things that go along way to contributing to a win, such as the draw,our roster, our weaknesses and our experience, and putting that all through my brain and I struggle to see where to many wins are going to come from. So I really think the eight is a massive pipe dream.
Although I think if we dont get knocked to badly by injuries we will improve and at least be a lot more competitive after the first month or so
Although I think if we dont get knocked to badly by injuries we will improve and at least be a lot more competitive after the first month or so
Based off the weekends game. Then No. No chance. But I hope a different attitude will come out of the sheds against the titans. Less penalties, more game plan playing. We still have some key players out which is promising for improvement. Anything is possible this early in the season. I'm staying optimistic, what else do i have.
Caarn Tiges!
Caarn Tiges!
@MacDougall said:Well if we do win the next two games, and I do give us a hope after watching the Titans and Warriors this weekend, we might have a chance to make some inroads this year because I think stringing wins together might give the team the belief required to go on with the job. Starting with a strong loss is not ideal though. Inexperienced players are less resilient when it comes to confidence and our team is very inexperienced. If we are 2-1 at round 3 anything is possible. If were 0-3 at round 3 we're in a world of trouble.
In saying that I do think that the areas we lost that game in are fixable. We didn't lose it through lack of talent, we lost it because we went away from what was working when the Dragons had some luck and got on the board.
Like I mentioned last night when I said that we lose the plot in defense when the play breaks down through panic, the same can be said for when the other team gets a bit of momentum, we panic and ditch the structure that works for us. Farah and Anasta should be very disappointed in their performances last night for this reason as they were key in altering the game plan on the run through panic and that is not a good thing to see from the experienced players.
The Dragons scored a try when Fulton got cleaned up by Tedesco and it was like a different team ball in hand after that. Brooks saw less of the ball because Farah and Anasta started trying to put their old man stank all over it, the outside men were getting less clean ball as a result and the forwards to their credit all got too involved, which is the opposite of our usual problems. We have a new pack and they all want to contribute to bettering our cause, probably all felt like they needed to establish early that we weren't the pushover Tigers of years past, but they were standing on top of each other at times trying to get ball when they should have been stacking along the backline running tough lines while Brooks and the backline ran plays.
So when we lose because of brain explosions from the senior players and overenthusiasm from a pack of young hungry forwards, there are worse signs for the future. All Farah and Anasta need to do is give Brooks the call in the pivotal moments more often than not. It all snowballed from there. Brooks lost his voice, Farah and Anasta went tunnel vision and the forwards lost guidance. I think the key moment of the game was when Sue and Woods got in each other's way and we lost possession inside our own ten. It looked horrible in a bubble but when we're losing because of overenthusiasm you can see the coach is having an effect.
Farah needs to get back to being the guy who takes the play when he's not expected to. The guy who puts in the perfect 40/20 on the fourth when nobody sees it coming. To get back there he has to basically reset his game. He needs to go back to basics and rediscover his touch. I want to see some seriously simple games from Farah in the next couple of weeks. Brooks has the goods, you could see it in the first 20\. He showed more than Miller ever did. That chip and chase was audacious and almost came off. Anasta, well he either needs to go or really take a back seat and rather than force himself onto the play, needs to take the reigns when Brooks actively defers to him. To be honest though I think he just needs to go.
Sorry about the lengthy post.
Good post. I'm rather less optimistic on the fixability and I might go a little further re Anasta (I'd possibly use the phrase "should be taken round the back of the stand at Concord and humanely euthanised") but I think the truth lies somewhere between "there's nothing to worry about, we'll make the eight" and "sack everyone now starting with Farah".
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@Tigersman said:@MacDougall said:Well if we do win the next two games, and I do give us a hope after watching the Titans and Warriors this weekend, we might have a chance to make some inroads this year because I think stringing wins together might give the team the belief required to go on with the job. Starting with a strong loss is not ideal though. Inexperienced players are less resilient when it comes to confidence and our team is very inexperienced. If we are 2-1 at round 3 anything is possible. If were 0-3 at round 3 we're in a world of trouble.
In saying that I do think that the areas we lost that game in are fixable. We didn't lose it through lack of talent, we lost it because we went away from what was working when the Dragons had some luck and got on the board.
Like I mentioned last night when I said that we lose the plot in defense when the play breaks down through panic, the same can be said for when the other team gets a bit of momentum, we panic and ditch the structure that works for us. Farah and Anasta should be very disappointed in their performances last night for this reason as they were key in altering the game plan on the run through panic and that is not a good thing to see from the experienced players.
The Dragons scored a try when Fulton got cleaned up by Tedesco and it was like a different team ball in hand after that. Brooks saw less of the ball because Farah and Anasta started trying to put their old man stank all over it, the outside men were getting less clean ball as a result and the forwards to their credit all got too involved, which is the opposite of our usual problems. We have a new pack and they all want to contribute to bettering our cause, probably all felt like they needed to establish early that we weren't the pushover Tigers of years past, but they were standing on top of each other at times trying to get ball when they should have been stacking along the backline running tough lines while Brooks and the backline ran plays.
So when we lose because of brain explosions from the senior players and overenthusiasm from a pack of young hungry forwards, there are worse signs for the future. All Farah and Anasta need to do is give Brooks the call in the pivotal moments more often than not. It all snowballed from there. Brooks lost his voice, Farah and Anasta went tunnel vision and the forwards lost guidance. I think the key moment of the game was when Sue and Woods got in each other's way and we lost possession inside our own ten. It looked horrible in a bubble but when we're losing because of overenthusiasm you can see the coach is having an effect.
Farah needs to get back to being the guy who takes the play when he's not expected to. The guy who puts in the perfect 40/20 on the fourth when nobody sees it coming. To get back there he has to basically reset his game. He needs to go back to basics and rediscover his touch. I want to see some seriously simple games from Farah in the next couple of weeks. Brooks has the goods, you could see it in the first 20\. He showed more than Miller ever did. That chip and chase was audacious and almost came off. Anasta, well he either needs to go or really take a back seat and rather than force himself onto the play, needs to take the reigns when Brooks actively defers to him. To be honest though I think he just needs to go.
Sorry about the lengthy post.
Great post mate. I 100% agree.
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