Wests Tigers battling to roar in a disjointed venture

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**Wests Tigers battling to roar in a disjointed venture**

Tim Prentice Columnist

By Tim Prentice, 19 Dec 2012

The Wests Tigers have just a couple of months to get their act together at the top or face the possibility of a season of angst on and off the field.
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The news coming out of Tigers HQ since their final game this year has been predominantly bad and incoming coach Mick Potter could have major issues to deal with by way of on-field morale, as well as sour player relationships with officials.
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I am painting a rather bleak scenario here but there are so many factors pulling against the joint venture club that good times seem aeons away.
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In recent days, highly regarded Dave Trodden stepped down from his position as alternate chairman. He will immediately be replaced by Balmain Tigers’ nominee Nick DiGirolamo before the Wests Magpies nominee – said to be former ABC weatherman Mike Bailey – takes the chair.
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Trodden said he stepped aside to allow a new man to fill the hot seat and bring fresh ideas and maybe even a new modus operandi to the administration.
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Fair enough, he had done the job for eight years but I believe vacating the chair at this point in time could hinder more than help the club over a difficult period in its history.
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There are other formidable bumps in the road that will need plenty of smoothing:
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* The controversial exit of long time coach Tim Sheens and a long-running, payout dispute
*The loss of star players Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington to Cronulla and the return of their best forward, Gareth Ellis, to England
* The axing of the Wests team from the State Cup (leaving a Balmain Tigers stand-alone unit)
* Increasing uncertainty over the future of Leichhardt Oval along with Balmain Leagues Club
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Heck, the good people of Newcastle think they have troubles on the horizon. The Wests Tigers have plenty – and they are much closer at hand. They are right here, right now.
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I had some recent conversations with some ardent Wests Tigers fans and they are willing to overlook most of the administrative dramas but rate the loss of key men Heighington and Ryan to the Sharks as “unforgivable.”
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The popular Ryan left because the Tigers administration kept promising to present him a long-term contract but failed to deliver over two seasons.
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Ryan, a dedicated Tigers man, insists he had to leave because the Sharks offered him guaranteed security – a contract on a table and even a pen to sign on the dotted line.
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From what I hear, the Tigers playing group were shocked and bitterly upset when Ryan and Heighington joined Cronulla.
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One supporter told me he believed Ryan and Heighington (plus lion-hearted English import Ellis) were the salt of the team while flashier types such as Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah took most of the bows and credit for any WT success.
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If that is the case, the Tigers may struggle for on-field cohesion in 2013.
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The Tigers folk I spoke with were also highly displeased with the signing of Braith Anasta as they consider the Roosters stalwart a player long past his best first grade years.
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One told me he and his family had bought a season ticket for 2013 but all expected to finish out of finals contention again, even with the addition of a new coach and a handful of new recruits.
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Stephen Humphreys, the club’s CEO, seems to be a very capable operator, and I notice that most speak in glowing terms of his ability. He may need to become the ultimate peacemaker as the merger is working anything but smoothly.
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Perhaps the turmoil will act as a galvanising agent for the club and its players as they prepare in earnest for 2013\. Sometimes, great strength is a product of adversity in sports.
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If it isn’t in the Wests Tigers camp, watch for persistent storm clouds to swirl over the golden west for much of the coming season.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/12/19/wests-tigers-battling-to-roar-in-a-disjointed-venture/
 
Not buying into any negativity or any hype rolling in to 2013.

I am hopefull we will see something good and the club progress under Potter regardless of whether that has an immediate impact on results on the scoreboard.

That is enough for me
 
'One supporter told me he believed Ryan and Heighington (plus lion-hearted English import Ellis) were the salt of the team while flashier types such as Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah took most of the bows and credit for any WT success.'

Ahh ok, Ryan and heighington played 7 seasons together for the club, we made the finals in 2 of those. Clearly the 'salt' wasn't working.
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Rubbish article, just regurgitating a lot of the crap that has come up since Sheens' departure. Must be tough trying to sell papers this time of the year.
 
this article is one of the sloppiest, least professional pieces of hack writing I have ever seen.

It's quite probable that whoever this 'tim prentice' is has scanned this forum, found all the most negative opinions, prefaced them with 'a WT fan said' line and called it an article. this guy has even less journalistic ability/integrity than the terror hacks.

Also good to see him consciously (or through stupidity) try to perpetuate the Wests v Balmain party by calling the State Cup team a 'Balmain Tigers stand-alone unit'. Isn;t it a Wests Tigers team…

This 'piece' is consierably less thought through, unbiased and informative than the average pub footy gibber after a dozen schooners!
 
Only results on the field will prove this article correct or false

Still can see what he is saying though , if results don't follow things could get ugly very quickly in 2013

Lots of issues both internally and externally are still simmering in all departments in my opinion
 
Sounds like a barrow being pushed by someone with access to a journalist… Well an online one anyway. The article appears to offer very little aside from repeating what we already know and a whole bunch of comments and assertions attributed to "one fan" and "folk". Not a huge step-up from the "insiders" and "pals" used in the women's mags...
 
@Yossarian said:
Sounds like a barrow being pushed by someone with access to a journalist… Well an online one anyway. The article appears to offer very little aside from repeating what we already know and a whole bunch of comments and assertions attributed to "one fan" and "folk". Not a huge step-up from the "insiders" and "pals" used in the women's mags...

Yoss , there are still a lot of undercurrents in the club from all angles

People really need to see this and understand if the season goes pear shaped they will surface

We need to take off our gold ,white and black shades for a moment and look at the situation like we would another club

We may not be Parra rabble , but we aren't that far away either from falling in that same hole
 
@Yossarian said:
Happy I'm more commenting on the quality of the article more so than than what is happening at the club.

I thought the idea was to read the article and comment on the story and its validity

Not critique the journalist

Suppose the issue with that is we may have to face the truth which probably isn't as rosy as we may want it to be
 
@happy tiger said:
@Yossarian said:
Happy I'm more commenting on the quality of the article more so than than what is happening at the club.

I thought the idea was to read the article and comment on the story and its validity

Not critique the journalist

Suppose the issue with that is we may have to face the truth which probably isn't as rosy as we may want it to be

That's been done in other threads. Part of my job (my real job) is to analyse sources… This is a weak source...
 
Pretty irresponsible journalism to simply spread incorrect information. It's going to be a Wests Tigers state cup team, not a Balmain one.
 
@MacDougall said:
Pretty irresponsible journalism to simply spread incorrect information. It's going to be a Wests Tigers state cup team, not a Balmain one.

Suppose it depends on how you look at it Mac ,if it based on how many Wests 2012 NSW Cup players will be in the side compared to how many BRET players from 2012 he is right

Yoss ,I still don't understand why you need to take a pot shot at the journo ( and don't worry your not the only one)because what he has said is pretty well spot on
 
@happy tiger said:
@MacDougall said:
Pretty irresponsible journalism to simply spread incorrect information. It's going to be a Wests Tigers state cup team, not a Balmain one.

Suppose it depends on how you look at it Mac ,if it based on how many Wests 2012 NSW Cup players will be in the side compared to how many BRET players from 2012 he is right

Yoss ,I still don't understand why you need to take a pot shot at the journo ( and don't worry your not the only one)because what he has said is pretty well spot on

I'm taking a potshot at the quality of the article not the journalist. It's recycled news with vaguely attributed and opaque references to comments supposedly made by people in the know. Given the discussion is about the information contained in the article I don't think it is unreasonable to question the article itself. There are other threads discussing the "internal problems" at WT - the only thing different about this thread is the article it feeds off. Look at the sources he uses:

_news coming out of Tigers HQ
I had some recent conversations with some ardent Wests Tigers fans
From what I hear
One supporter told me
The Tigers folk I spoke with
One told me he and his family had bought a season ticket for 2013 but all expected to finish out of finals contention again, even with the addition of a new coach and a handful of new recruits._

It sounds like he talked to a couple of fans and wrote an article about the internal running of the club with nothing to indicate the fans are anymore in the know that any other fan. My criticim is not his conclusion but the methods he's used to reach that conclusion. He may well be right but even Mystic Meg got it right every now and then.
 
Nothing new there at all. Anyone on here could have written that same article. Makes you wonder why he even bothered.

I agree with Yoss in that his methodology of research was nothing short of rumour, gossip and perhaps fabrication.
I agree with Happy in that everything he says is quite possibly on the money.

Doesnt make this a good article however…we have heard all of this for the past 2 months now.
 
Don't think we should be getting too worked up about an article written on The Roar. Isn't that a place where journos go when they can't get a real job?
 
What a rubbish, unsubstantiated article. Nothing to write in the off season about so pick on the West Tigers. Sounds like a Rothfield inspired article. I am still waiting for an article from him which puts Cronulla in a bad light. Let's be honest, Heighnington has had a long period in Wt 1st grade but was noticeably missing a number of important tackles throughout 2012\. Ryan too has had a long career in WT 1st grade but he is not the super star that this article is trying to make out.
 

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