Wests Tigers coach Mick Potter says he won't walk out

[madunit]

If someone wishes to call my posts the dumbest posts here, I believe they have set the bar at a level that they wish the conversation to be conducted at.

Perhaps if theres an issue with the content of my posts, it might pay to address the person who chose to lower the standard of the discussion in the first place.

 

[madunit]

No one is forcing you to read the posts.

Mate you destroyed the other forum with your rants and insults. I would prefer of you didnt destroy this one too.

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I've destroyed nothing.

I'm entitled to my views. I don't care if you don't like them. That's your problem, not mine.

 

[reyre2000]

In 9 months Potter has shown more loyalty & passion for this club, than Sheens ever did in a decade.

Dumbest comment I have seen on this forum and shows the poster has no idea how Sheens saved this club from ruin.

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nah fella, yours was the dumbest comment ive ever seen. He is still here and has done everything possible to turn it into a worse basket case then when he came here. He should have left in 2006 and he would be the best coach that ever picked up a clip board, now he looks like an absolute wally.

 

[Knuckles]

If he has fallen out with the dressing room and they let him stay on, it will only flare up again.
United we stand divided we fall …. If the players don't want him then it won't work no matter how good a coach he is.

100% with you on this!

You guys ever been managers before? Sometimes the troops get restless because the manager is hopeless, but just as often the troops get restless because the manager is very good and putting them under the spotlight.

I wouldn't assume that certain whinging players / leaks to media are evidence that Potter can't do his job. Let us not forget last year all the rubbish that played out when Sleau and Heighno were released - unfortunately we are a club at the moment where everything plays out in the media.

Compare, for example, to the Doggies who underwent such enormous issues like the rape allegations 2004, SBW exit, sexist comments after the GF, salary cap breaches etc. So little of their inner politics played out in the media, esp once they'd parted ways with Wille Mason and his big mouth.

Bottom line is players look after themselves and if they can sacrifice the coach to take pressure of themselves, you can be sure that they'll do it! (you only have to look at us last year and how quickly they turned on Sheensie)

Not sure I get what you're saying. If we keep Potter we run the risk of another player revolt but if I read you correctly you would rather keep the coach and risk losing the players. What do you think will happen if we don't win many of our first say 8 or 9 games ? I reckon there's a better than even money chance it will be all on again.

 

[Demonborger]

Regarding Potter - we as fans simply don't have enough information to make an informed decision. We can't trust the media who report quoteless information from faceless leakers within the club (that Mayer suggest would themselves know little). We can go on selections, particularly earlier in the season where 2nd tier cap wasn't an issue. We can also look at his use of interchange which is a solid reflection of his coaching - it hasn't been as good as it could of been but personally I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as early days (he learnt from the Farah benching).

. On field performance is hard to tell because a large part is dependent on the players themselves turning up.
We could look at the players commitment and relate it to relationship with the coach, but we can't tell who is the instigator behind it (is the coach not getting enough out of the player or is the player not listening and being unprofessional?).

Our attack has been shocking but a lot of that appears to be halves related, and Anasta/Benji are both old players who don't put their body on the line or have good precision anymore.

We have seen players come into NRL and improve, but what is from Potter and what is from within the player we can't tell. Nor can we tell if they came in because they were deemed ready, or if they came in only because of injury to another.

What role do assistants and facilities play in aiding/hindering Potter's coaching? And the roster itself?

At the end of the day the coaching review is meant to delve into it all of these things and more to attempt to isolate the various factors, compare with best practice and give us a plan to move towards for the future. Of course with our board the accuracy of the actual review and the conclusions are also unknowns.

On thing for certain is we have good young players who require a solid coaching environment, we also need to be ready and attractive enough to recruit some quality players for 2015 - something that instability will hinder.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If he has fallen out with the dressing room and they let him stay on, it will only flare up again.
United we stand divided we fall …. If the players don't want him then it won't work no matter how good a coach he is.

100% with you on this!

You guys ever been managers before? Sometimes the troops get restless because the manager is hopeless, but just as often the troops get restless because the manager is very good and putting them under the spotlight.

I wouldn't assume that certain whinging players / leaks to media are evidence that Potter can't do his job. Let us not forget last year all the rubbish that played out when Sleau and Heighno were released - unfortunately we are a club at the moment where everything plays out in the media.

Compare, for example, to the Doggies who underwent such enormous issues like the rape allegations 2004, SBW exit, sexist comments after the GF, salary cap breaches etc. So little of their inner politics played out in the media, esp once they'd parted ways with Wille Mason and his big mouth.

Bottom line is players look after themselves and if they can sacrifice the coach to take pressure of themselves, you can be sure that they'll do it! (you only have to look at us last year and how quickly they turned on Sheensie)

Agree. Turfing Potter sends the wrong message to the playing group. If Potter is moved on, the club concedes that they'll appoint a coach who is expected to work around the playing group to drive results, not the other way around.

 

[madunit]

Again i'll ask. Where is the evidence that proves Potter has lost the players?

surely people aren't silly enough to take the unreliable words of Sydney RL newspaper journos as gospel?

 

[system]

Again i'll ask. Where is the evidence that proves Potter has lost the players?

surely people aren't silly enough to take the unreliable words of Sydney RL newspaper journos as gospel?

Mate it is gospel. You can either believe it or not but the players dont support him. It is not hopeless. I think he can win them back but his relationship with all players is less than ideal.

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[cqtiger]

Again i'll ask. Where is the evidence that proves Potter has lost the players?

surely people aren't silly enough to take the unreliable words of Sydney RL newspaper journos as gospel?

Mate it is gospel. You can either believe it or not but the players dont support him. It is not hopeless. I think he can win them back but his relationship with all players is less than ideal.

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So you're a current player?

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[Newtown]

I have been a critic of micks with certain things but have also maintained he should be the coach next year if things are ideal. I think the 2014 players, board and mick need to be locked in a room and made to thrash out everything/differences and all move on with the same aim that is to improve this great club. Mick obviously has the passion and nuts to do it. Players need to grow up but we on this forum also need to grow up, sheensy and benji are damaging themselves we should stop the hate campaigns and reflect that they did contribute to a lot of good things for our club as well. Lets stop all the hate campaigns and all try and move on the a bright looking future.

Exactly my sentiments. So there are least two. The players are being paid by the club to support the coach they (the club) has chosen and play good not sulky football. If the players, including the leader of the group, don't like the coach then let them (players) leave the club. Otherwise this club will continue to be a laughing stock club known for accommodating spoilt brats. I hope Mayer lays down the law to the players ASAP.

 

[Flippedy]

Well said. I'm prepared to give this guy a go. Coaching at WT will get a lot easier without the likes of Benji Marshall around.

:sign:

It would be even easier if the idiots on the Board weren't around either.

Potter needs to be given more time, anyone with even just a smidgen of commonsense can see that. We are already progressing further under Potter in 6 months than we did under Sheens in the past 3 years! It may not be showing on the field yet, because the old structure has had to be torn down. However, the foundations of something greater and more consistent are being built, imo. I really can't understand why those in power cannot see this. If they sack him at the end of this season, we will be back to square one, having to start all over again - ridiculous!

 

[madunit]

Again i'll ask. Where is the evidence that proves Potter has lost the players?

surely people aren't silly enough to take the unreliable words of Sydney RL newspaper journos as gospel?

Mate it is gospel. You can either believe it or not but the players dont support him. It is not hopeless. I think he can win them back but his relationship with all players is less than ideal.

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So theres no evidence, just your opinion.

thanks for pushing your agenda.

it is duly ignored.

 

[innsaneink]

Well played unit.
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I think Potter has a job to do and he should be given a fair crack at it.....I like others are a bit perplexed by some of his decisions but it must be remembered he's a rookie coach too.

I dont think he'l be here that long, I think his job is to clear the deadwood and blood the stock of youngsters coming thru....get them grounded and established....alonng with the team and slowly climb the ladder.

In another year or two hopefully weve improved enough so that if we wish to move on from Potter we can attract better than the likes of barrett & parish. By 2015 the Sheens debt will be wiped, and we'll be much healthier financially thanks to a much better stadium deal from next year.

Just give him a fair go

 

[Tim Sheens]

If he has fallen out with the dressing room and they let him stay on, it will only flare up again.
United we stand divided we fall …. If the players don't want him then it won't work no matter how good a coach he is.

No need for any division, those involved in any falling out can stay in the dressing room and sulk whilst ones that want to play can go out and show us what they have. The former can walk out the door and go somewhere else for all I care.

It is time for the rot to be cut out of OUR team (and the board), as we have been hamstrung by the sharing of power for far too long. Either put up AND shut up, or [This word has been automatically removed] off!

 

[Knuckles]

Well played unit.
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I think Potter has a job to do and he should be given a fair crack at it.....I like others are a bit perplexed by some of his decisions but it must be remembered he's a rookie coach too.

I dont think he'l be here that long, I think his job is to clear the deadwood and blood the stock of youngsters coming thru....get them grounded and established....alonng with the team and slowly climb the ladder.

In another year or two hopefully weve improved enough so that if we wish to move on from Potter we can attract better than the likes of barrett & parish. By 2015 the Sheens debt will be wiped, and we'll be much healthier financially thanks to a much better stadium deal from next year.

Just give him a fair go

Yes yes ok ok …...we'll give him the job .... There ... happy now ?

 

[Knuckles]

At least, unlike some of the sooks on here, I'll renew my membership no matter who the coach is.

 

[king_sirro]

Regarding Potter - we as fans simply don't have enough information to make an informed decision. We can't trust the media who report quoteless information from faceless leakers within the club (that Mayer suggest would themselves know little). We can go on selections, particularly earlier in the season where 2nd tier cap wasn't an issue. We can also look at his use of interchange which is a solid reflection of his coaching - it hasn't been as good as it could of been but personally I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as early days (he learnt from the Farah benching).

. On field performance is hard to tell because a large part is dependent on the players themselves turning up.
We could look at the players commitment and relate it to relationship with the coach, but we can't tell who is the instigator behind it (is the coach not getting enough out of the player or is the player not listening and being unprofessional?).

Our attack has been shocking but a lot of that appears to be halves related, and Anasta/Benji are both old players who don't put their body on the line or have good precision anymore.

We have seen players come into NRL and improve, but what is from Potter and what is from within the player we can't tell. Nor can we tell if they came in because they were deemed ready, or if they came in only because of injury to another.

What role do assistants and facilities play in aiding/hindering Potter's coaching? And the roster itself?

At the end of the day the coaching review is meant to delve into it all of these things and more to attempt to isolate the various factors, compare with best practice and give us a plan to move towards for the future. Of course with our board the accuracy of the actual review and the conclusions are also unknowns.

On thing for certain is we have good young players who require a solid coaching environment, we also need to be ready and attractive enough to recruit some quality players for 2015 - something that instability will hinder.

Post of the year

 

[simonthetiger]

At least, unlike some of the sooks on here, I'll renew my membership no matter who the coach is.

Me too…...gawd there are some sooks on here,or issat clowns,or idiots.....imbeciles???

I forget. :laughing:

 

[Defiant]

The strange thing is the rift was supposedly over being too tough on the young ones and soft on Benji and co.

All the kids have signed and they are playing well. As for the oldies we re-signed Galloway, Fulton and perhaps Farah so i'm not sure if this rift just evaporates with Benji.

Give Potter next year unless Farah has an issue with it I guess.

 

[innsaneink]

Well played unit.
–-------------------------

I think Potter has a job to do and he should be given a fair crack at it.....I like others are a bit perplexed by some of his decisions but it must be remembered he's a rookie coach too.

I dont think he'l be here that long, I think his job is to clear the deadwood and blood the stock of youngsters coming thru....get them grounded and established....alonng with the team and slowly climb the ladder.

In another year or two hopefully weve improved enough so that if we wish to move on from Potter we can attract better than the likes of barrett & parish. By 2015 the Sheens debt will be wiped, and we'll be much healthier financially thanks to a much better stadium deal from next year.

Just give him a fair go

Yes yes ok ok …...we'll give him the job .... There ... happy now ?

Why are you acting like a 10 year old?
Grow up mate :unamused: