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Wests Tigers must turn around their season in round seven clash with Panthers

James Hooper
The Sunday Telegraph
April 15, 2012 12:00AM
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TODAY is put up or shut up time for Benji Marshall, Robbie Farah, Tim Sheens and the Wests Tigers.

Staring down the barrel of a sixth straight loss against an injury-depleted Penrith, the one-time premiership favourites desperately need to turn their season around.

But how did the NRL's most exciting attacking outfit get to a 1-5 start?

It has been said their star players Marshall and Farah don't get on, coach Sheens has lost the senior playing group, the club has too many egos, prize recruit Adam Blair has failed to fire and they have a soft underbelly.

The Tigers say all of this is rubbish, but it's hard to argue with the statistics about them being the worst defensive outfit in the NRL.

Leading into today's match against Penrith at Centrebet Stadium, backrower Liam Fulton has opened up about the horror start and slammed rumours about a club divided.

"Everyone loves Sheensy. Everyone respects him. When you hear stuff about how the senior players don't get on with him, it's pretty bad," Fulton said.

"It's definitely not true. We've lost five straight so it's never going to be easy. But everyone's just knuckling down and doing everything we can to get a win. Whenever we're not winning, there's always talk about Benji and Robbie.

"For me personally, it doesn't bother me.

"It annoys Robbie more than it annoys Benji, but at the end of the day they know they're mates so they don't give a s…t."

When The Sunday Telegraph spoke to Tigers legends Steve Roach, Garry Jack and Benny Elias, the trio agreed Tim Moltzen's switch from halfback to fullback was a big part of the problem.

After training over the entire off-season to partner Marshall in the halves, coach Sheens chose to abandon the experiment shortly after young fullback James Tedesco was ruled out for the season with a knee injury.

Last week at fullback, Moltzen looked like a drunken sailor under the high ball.

"I'd leave Moltzen at halfback," Jack said.

"From what I saw of him trying to catch the ball last weekend, fullback is not a position to be if you lack confidence.

"It's the worst position on the park to be if you're trying to catch those high balls, and it looked like he'd lost his nerve.

"I know Humble is a utility, but for me he's a better option at fullback."

Marshall has also accepted his share of responsibility for the mess.

The other area where the Tigers have been badly exposed is goal-line defence and through the middle of the ruck.

There are several reasons for this.

The retirement of front-rower Todd Payten, coupled with the salary cap-forced exits of Bryce Gibbs and Andrew Fifita to Cronulla, have left a massive hole.

"No doubt they're missing Gibbs in the middle, especially his defence," Roach said. "But I also think maybe a few of them are a little bit too focused on making the Sydney Confidential pages.

"You want to make the back page of the paper for winning. I'm a Tigers man through and through, I love the joint, I just want to see them winning. Maybe it's time to drop off all the social stuff and worry about trying to do what you're paid to do, win games."
 
Wests Tigers will be battling Penrith as well as the pressure on themselves to turn their season around. Not a great place to be in but one that they have to battle through, in fact it will be an ongoing battle week after week if they want to make the eight. The spotlight is well and truly focussed on the coach and players with the club and supporters reliant on their efforts on the field.
 
Using Todd Payten as an excuse dosent wear with me ,he hardly played a game last season.The problems in our recruitment ,we lost 4 props and now we are playing short.Good luck to the Cashman but he isnt the answer.
 
With the Panthers injury issues, this is as good a chance as any. Take out their strike centre and their number one hooker and yes it will make our chances better. In saying that though i think the majority of our losses have been more about ourselves than the opposition. Against Manly they blew us off the park in the second half but all other losses we've been poor for periods of the game which have haunted us at the final whistle. If we play pretty well for the 80 mins today, we WILL win. We have the talent but the belief and the confidence that comes with winning games continues to elude us.

If we lose this…..well, i hate to think about the next 7 days.
 
I wonder if Sheens thinks Garry Jack is another that has no idea of what theyre talking about.

Using Todd Payten as an excuse dosent wear with me ,he hardly played a game last season.The problems in our recruitment ,we lost 4 props and now we are playing short.Good luck to the Cashman but he isnt the answer.

Haf a season, 12 games - 8 wins.
You cannot dismiss it
Same with Dwyer…15 games
 
@willow said:
Wests Tigers must turn around their season in round seven clash with Panthers

James Hooper
The Sunday Telegraph
April 15, 2012 12:00AM
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TODAY is put up or shut up time for Benji Marshall, Robbie Farah, Tim Sheens and the Wests Tigers.

Staring down the barrel of a sixth straight loss against an injury-depleted Penrith, the one-time premiership favourites desperately need to turn their season around.

But how did the NRL's most exciting attacking outfit get to a 1-5 start?

It has been said their star players Marshall and Farah don't get on, coach Sheens has lost the senior playing group, the club has too many egos, prize recruit Adam Blair has failed to fire and they have a soft underbelly.

The Tigers say all of this is rubbish, but it's hard to argue with the statistics about them being the worst defensive outfit in the NRL.

Leading into today's match against Penrith at Centrebet Stadium, backrower Liam Fulton has opened up about the horror start and slammed rumours about a club divided.

"Everyone loves Sheensy. Everyone respects him. When you hear stuff about how the senior players don't get on with him, it's pretty bad," Fulton said.

"It's definitely not true. We've lost five straight so it's never going to be easy. But everyone's just knuckling down and doing everything we can to get a win. Whenever we're not winning, there's always talk about Benji and Robbie.

"For me personally, it doesn't bother me.

"It annoys Robbie more than it annoys Benji, but at the end of the day they know they're mates so they don't give a s…t."

When The Sunday Telegraph spoke to Tigers legends Steve Roach, Garry Jack and Benny Elias, the trio agreed Tim Moltzen's switch from halfback to fullback was a big part of the problem.

After training over the entire off-season to partner Marshall in the halves, coach Sheens chose to abandon the experiment shortly after young fullback James Tedesco was ruled out for the season with a knee injury.

Last week at fullback, Moltzen looked like a drunken sailor under the high ball.

"I'd leave Moltzen at halfback," Jack said.

"From what I saw of him trying to catch the ball last weekend, fullback is not a position to be if you lack confidence.

"It's the worst position on the park to be if you're trying to catch those high balls, and it looked like he'd lost his nerve.

"I know Humble is a utility, but for me he's a better option at fullback."

Marshall has also accepted his share of responsibility for the mess.

The other area where the Tigers have been badly exposed is goal-line defence and through the middle of the ruck.

There are several reasons for this.

The retirement of front-rower Todd Payten, coupled with the salary cap-forced exits of Bryce Gibbs and Andrew Fifita to Cronulla, have left a massive hole.

"**No doubt they're missing Gibbs in the middle, especially his defence," Roach said. "But I also think maybe a few of them are a little bit too focused on making the Sydney Confidential pages.\
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"You want to make the back page of the paper for winning. I'm a Tigers man through and through, I love the joint, I just want to see them winning. Maybe it's time to drop off all the social stuff and worry about trying to do what you're paid to do, win games."**

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MMM, I wonder who he is talking about????????????????
 
@innsaneink said:
I wonder if Sheens thinks Garry Jack is another that has no idea of what theyre talking about.

Using Todd Payten as an excuse dosent wear with me ,he hardly played a game last season.The problems in our recruitment ,we lost 4 props and now we are playing short.Good luck to the Cashman but he isnt the answer.

Haf a season, 12 games - 8 wins.
You cannot dismiss it
Same with Dwyer…15 games

Like i said ,poor excuse
 
**"The Tigers say all of this is rubbish, but it's hard to argue with the statistics about them being the worst defensive outfit in the NRL".**

I don't think we are the worst. Parramatta has twice the amount of points scored against them as we do and, before their win last night, the Titans had more, also. It would be good if they actually read the stats properly before writing the article.
 

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