Wests Tigers Podcast - Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie.

[cochise]

Is there a pod this week?

Yes, recorded last night.

Up yet?

Not yet.

 

[Joel Helmes]

Latest edition is good to go! We talk Hartigan departure, Hastings arrival, Leilua brothers, the reasons why one of us won't be renewing their Wests Tigers membership (at this stage), and just what is the right way to identify the club? https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/wests-tigers-podcast-0130/

 

[tony soprano]

Latest edition is good to go! We talk Hartigan departure, Hastings arrival, Leilua brothers, the reasons why one of us won't be renewing their Wests Tigers membership (at this stage), and just what is the right way to identify the club? https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/wests-tigers-podcast-0130/

Good pod fellas.

 

[cochise]

Latest edition is good to go! We talk Hartigan departure, Hastings arrival, Leilua brothers, the reasons why one of us won't be renewing their Wests Tigers membership (at this stage), and just what is the right way to identify the club? https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/wests-tigers-podcast-0130/

Good pod fellas.

Thanks mate, Wests ( @Bus-2-Terrigal ) keep providing content.

 

[GCfan]

I shorten it to West’s and I grew up a Balmain fan. Maybe it’s just laziness….I am bloody lazy.

 

[GCfan]

Thanks for the podcast guys, always makes the long drive home from work enjoyable.

 

[needsanewusername]

Latest edition is good to go! We talk Hartigan departure, Hastings arrival, Leilua brothers, the reasons why one of us won't be renewing their Wests Tigers membership (at this stage), and just what is the right way to identify the club? https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/wests-tigers-podcast-0130/

I enjoyed that mate, well done.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

With regard Tim Sheens and his ever growing role ... as of this week, Sheensy is down as the Wests Tigers Head of Football, coaching director, recruitment overseer, tuck shop co-ordinator and Madge Maguire’s own personal elocution tutor. I also have it on good advice that he’ll be re-lacing his old 1970s boots and is tipped to be starting prop for round one.

 

[supercoach]

Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

 

[cochise]

Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.

 

[Guest]

The team has done 3/5 of stuff all to warrant me paying for a membership. Attracting fans, sponsorship and money starts with performances on the field. If this team can ever get it together for 80 minutes a week, then I'll reconsider.

 

[twentyforty]

Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.

And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

 

[cochise]

The team has done 3/5 of stuff all to warrant me paying for a membership. Attracting fans, sponsorship and money starts with performances on the field. If this team can ever get it together for 80 minutes a week, then I'll reconsider.

My membership is more than performance for me though. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to continue with their membership though, its more that I have sat in the same seats, near the same people for 20 years, that is hard to give up.

 

[cochise]

Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

 

[twentyforty]

Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

Lol, vive la difference.

 

[jirskyr]

Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

 

[cochise]

Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

 

[jirskyr]

Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

The irony of any Tigers fan accusing another of supporting mediocrity.

 

[happy_tiger]

Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

The irony of any Tigers fan accusing another of supporting mediocrity.

Different from supporting mediocrity to accepting mediocrity ...I support the Wests Tigers ...I don't accept mediocrity

 

[Swordy]

Another good podcast. Its good to see a bit of difference of opinion this time too as opposed to everyone on the panel saying the same thing.

I also like the fact you are calling out the BS journalists and encouraging people to seek the truth and make a sensible judgement. Definitely beyond some on this forum !

Good job guys and thanks for the effort.