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@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497612) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497599) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497555) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497528) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497284) said:
@twentyforty said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497279) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497245) said:
@supercoach said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497238) said:
Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

The irony of any Tigers fan accusing another of supporting mediocrity.

Different from supporting mediocrity to accepting mediocrity ...I support the Wests Tigers ...I don't accept mediocrity

Tell me who does
 
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497717) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497612) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497599) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497555) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497528) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497284) said:
@twentyforty said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497279) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497245) said:
@supercoach said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497238) said:
Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

The irony of any Tigers fan accusing another of supporting mediocrity.

Different from supporting mediocrity to accepting mediocrity ...I support the Wests Tigers ...I don't accept mediocrity

Tell me who does

Apart from yourself ??
 
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497725) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497717) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497612) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497599) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497555) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497528) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497284) said:
@twentyforty said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497279) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497245) said:
@supercoach said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497238) said:
Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

The irony of any Tigers fan accusing another of supporting mediocrity.

Different from supporting mediocrity to accepting mediocrity ...I support the Wests Tigers ...I don't accept mediocrity

Tell me who does

Apart from yourself ??

Don't start that baloney. No fan accepts mediocrity, it's just that everyone has different ways of dealing with it.
 
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497735) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497725) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497717) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497612) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497599) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497555) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497528) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497284) said:
@twentyforty said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497279) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497245) said:
@supercoach said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497238) said:
Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

The irony of any Tigers fan accusing another of supporting mediocrity.

Different from supporting mediocrity to accepting mediocrity ...I support the Wests Tigers ...I don't accept mediocrity

Tell me who does

Apart from yourself ??

Don't start that baloney. No fan accepts mediocrity, it's just that everyone has different ways of dealing with it.

Viva la Revolution ...if your not onboard your a hindrance or a speed bump
 
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497737) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497735) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497725) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497717) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497612) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497599) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497555) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497528) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497284) said:
@twentyforty said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497279) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497245) said:
@supercoach said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497238) said:
Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

The irony of any Tigers fan accusing another of supporting mediocrity.

Different from supporting mediocrity to accepting mediocrity ...I support the Wests Tigers ...I don't accept mediocrity

Tell me who does

Apart from yourself ??

Don't start that baloney. No fan accepts mediocrity, it's just that everyone has different ways of dealing with it.

Viva la Revolution ...if your not onboard your a hindrance or a speed bump

I don't know what that means.
 
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497281) said:
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497274) said:
The team has done 3/5 of stuff all to warrant me paying for a membership. Attracting fans, sponsorship and money starts with performances on the field. If this team can ever get it together for 80 minutes a week, then I'll reconsider.

My membership is more than performance for me though. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to continue with their membership though, its more that I have sat in the same seats, near the same people for 20 years, that is hard to give up.

In the past if the Tigers were playing in Sydney I was there and usually with my son and one of your fellow Podcast presenters. This has been going on for the best part of 30 years although we have only been members for about the last 12 years. I guess this will continue for select games and venues, but last year and the clubs response to last year dismal performance has drained my enthusiasm. Don’t get me wrong it’s not only our club, the NRL in general was a turnoff.

For me the game day experience is about having some hope I might walk away a winner, but last year and probably next year most weeks that is not the case.

Maybe I am just old and grumpy
 
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497735) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497725) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497717) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497612) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497599) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497555) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497528) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497284) said:
@twentyforty said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497279) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497245) said:
@supercoach said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497238) said:
Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

The irony of any Tigers fan accusing another of supporting mediocrity.

Different from supporting mediocrity to accepting mediocrity ...I support the Wests Tigers ...I don't accept mediocrity

Tell me who does

Apart from yourself ??

Don't start that baloney. No fan accepts mediocrity, it's just that everyone has different ways of dealing with it.

If you didn't accept it ..you would just move on and be done with it...go fishing or something....but no we are all still here..
 
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497737) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497735) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497725) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497717) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497612) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497599) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497555) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497528) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497284) said:
@twentyforty said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497279) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497245) said:
@supercoach said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497238) said:
Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

The irony of any Tigers fan accusing another of supporting mediocrity.

Different from supporting mediocrity to accepting mediocrity ...I support the Wests Tigers ...I don't accept mediocrity

Tell me who does

Apart from yourself ??

Don't start that baloney. No fan accepts mediocrity, it's just that everyone has different ways of dealing with it.

Viva la Revolution ...if your not onboard your a hindrance or a speed bump

Did we just sign Fidel El Castro?
 
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497770) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497737) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497735) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497725) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497717) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497612) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497599) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497555) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497528) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497284) said:
@twentyforty said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497279) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497245) said:
@supercoach said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497238) said:
Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

The irony of any Tigers fan accusing another of supporting mediocrity.

Different from supporting mediocrity to accepting mediocrity ...I support the Wests Tigers ...I don't accept mediocrity

Tell me who does

Apart from yourself ??

Don't start that baloney. No fan accepts mediocrity, it's just that everyone has different ways of dealing with it.

Viva la Revolution ...if your not onboard your a hindrance or a speed bump

Did we just sign Fidel El Castro?

No ...just some cheap Cuban Cigars
 
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497842) said:
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497770) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497737) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497735) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497725) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497717) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497612) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497599) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497555) said:
@jirskyr said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497528) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497284) said:
@twentyforty said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497279) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497245) said:
@supercoach said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497238) said:
Another good poddy guys. Once again Iam with Joel on renewing my membership for2022.

For the first time in well over a decade I have opted not to renew as I basically lost confidence in club. Okay things may change in 2022, but we have been saying that for the past decade and to be honest I have not seen anything since the last round that gives me any confidence in the clubs leadership. I will be still going to games when I can, but It isn’t life or death anymore.

Yeah my membership is crucially important to me, it means a lot to me to have that routine and the familiarity of the people that sit around me at games.


And that’s a good thing, a good reason. It’s great to have some routine in your life. Others see different buy in motives and that’s ok too. There’s no right or wrong answer, is there mate.

No, as I just said, I can understand those that are not renewing, it is just different for me.

I'm the same as you. Will I still go to matches and watch every other game on TV? Yes. So I don't see the point in trying to penalise Tigers for bad performances by withholding my membership for something I do anyway (go to and watch Tigers). I still want to go to matches even when we aren't in the finals.

For me, locking in 8 home matches early in the year means I can work my schedule around those matches, and I have a young family, so that is important. If I was to leave it to a week-by-week decision, undoubtedly there would be a number of weeks where I would just opt to stay home, for the ease of it. That is what has happened with two of my best mates - they've basically stopped attending matches, although they are still passionate fans; it's a good TV product and they ultimately couldn't be bothered travelling out.

And back to the "withholding membership" logic, I just don't understand that at all.

Firstly, by withdrawing financial support from the club, it is harder for them to compete. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter what you think about the leadership and decision-making, less money makes a side less competitive (in the long run). Former members may say "they had my money before and were not successful", and that's a fair point, but it's also fair to realise that taking the money away doesn't make things better. So by all means, don't pay your memberships, but then perhaps think about that when Tigers can't regularly compete with clubs like Roosters and Souths.

Secondly, the idea of a "protest vote" to me is also illogical. The club already knows they need to win football matches, and the easiest way to drive revenues is to win football matches. So the incentive to win exists in all departments. If some portion of members decide to stop paying for membership, the club isn't going to suddenly react differently to losing. They aren't going to say "oh we are losing members, better start winning more". It does not send a message.

Of course all this is independent of your own financial situation. If it's difficult to afford a membership, of course you are more judicious with your spending.

So like cochise I understand why people want to discontinue their membership, but that's not how it is for me.

A couple of months ago i was accused of supporting mediocrity by continuing my membership. No I like going to the footy.

The irony of any Tigers fan accusing another of supporting mediocrity.

Different from supporting mediocrity to accepting mediocrity ...I support the Wests Tigers ...I don't accept mediocrity

Tell me who does

Apart from yourself ??

Don't start that baloney. No fan accepts mediocrity, it's just that everyone has different ways of dealing with it.

Viva la Revolution ...if your not onboard your a hindrance or a speed bump

Did we just sign Fidel El Castro?

No ...just some cheap Cuban Cigars


There are no cheap Cuban cigars you must have been smoking the Filipina ones (they are cheap)
 
Should WT fans express their disappointment at the club’s overall poor results?
Many fans who attended the emotion filled Cowboys game at Leichhardt oval decided to do just that by booing the team off at the halftime break. I don’t know what could be read into the team’s response when they made the scoreboard look more respectable in the second half? Was the booing justified?
 
@supercoach said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497748) said:
@cochise said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497281) said:
@willow said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1497274) said:
The team has done 3/5 of stuff all to warrant me paying for a membership. Attracting fans, sponsorship and money starts with performances on the field. If this team can ever get it together for 80 minutes a week, then I'll reconsider.

My membership is more than performance for me though. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to continue with their membership though, its more that I have sat in the same seats, near the same people for 20 years, that is hard to give up.

In the past if the Tigers were playing in Sydney I was there and usually with my son and one of your fellow Podcast presenters. This has been going on for the best part of 30 years although we have only been members for about the last 12 years. I guess this will continue for select games and venues, but last year and the clubs response to last year dismal performance has drained my enthusiasm. Don’t get me wrong it’s not only our club, the NRL in general was a turnoff.

For me the game day experience is about having some hope I might walk away a winner, but last year and probably next year most weeks that is not the case.

Maybe I am just old and grumpy

Mate, the current predicament is easy street compared to Wests circa 1983.
Club was broke, fighting the NSWRL through the courts just to stay in the comp, no players left, getting dusted every week ... and it poured with rain at every home game. I was there every week, along with about 2000 hardy souls on the Lidcombe Hill.

That’s what being a footy fan is all about ?
 
Latest edition of the Wests Tigers Podcast has just been published. Plenty of discussion around Brooks and his future, stadiums and things to be both positive and negative about heading into season 2022...https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/wests-tigers-podcast-0131/
 
Love your pod guys but giving up on the season by making the team weaker, in the hope things improve in the future should not be allowed. If the club goes ahead and gets rid of Brooks knowing we will be weaker for 22 and give up on that season, they should give up on income and slash members prices. Sorry but intentionally making the team less competitive is a big no no.
 
@kiwitiger said in [Wests Tigers Podcast \- Hosted by Helmsey&Eddie\.](/post/1502705) said:
Love your pod guys but giving up on the season by making the team weaker, in the hope things improve in the future should not be allowed. If the club goes ahead and gets rid of Brooks knowing we will be weaker for 22 and give up on that season, they should give up on income and slash members prices. Sorry but intentionally making the team less competitive is a big no no.

Agree 100% mate
 
Good poddy guys, enjoyed the positive/ negative segment. Certainly for me the no1 negative is lack of quality recruitment. With a focus on youth you need a couple of quality players with real leadership skills to help these kids.

I think the positive is probably the two new assistant coaches. I think they will be great with the younger players especially.

I have doubts the Sheens appointment will be a success, but I do think he will not let the media walk over us as in the past, so I guess that is a positive.
 
Latest edition of the Wests Tigers Podcast is up and ready to go! Join Eddie, Garry and Declan for a big chat on Luciano Leilua and other up-to-date Wests Tigers issues. https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/wests-tigers-podcast-0132/
 

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