Wests Tigers sign Rugby winger John Grant

Comparing the background of John Grant's schooling to another arm of the Catholic education reminds me of the Len Smith story, here we have 2 branches of Catholicism going against each other for some reason while in 1948 poor old Len from Newtown missed out on being the Kangaroo capt because he wasn't Protesant!.
 
He certainly knows how to score tries (scored 3 again yesterday) and will be in the union gf next week.I may even have to watch the game if i remember
 
Heres hoping he is a success with us because we are crying out for a big, fast, young, tryscoring winger.

Im concerned about Lote, but im not writing him off yet. And i love Beau, he's been great, but someone with more speed and strikepower would be better.
 
Watched him yesterday on the tv he sure has size and pace. Knows his way to the try line as well. If his defence is good enough for NRL he will go a long way. He will either end up a great buy or a union flop it depends on his attitude but I think we might have found a hidden gem. For the life of me I don't know how he is not good enough to get a super 15 contract, Australian rugby makes some weird decisions but I think he is better than a lot of the contracted rugby players I have seen.
 
@sunshine coast tiger said:
Watched him yesterday on the tv he sure has size and pace. Knows his way to the try line as well. If his defence is good enough for NRL he will go a long way. He will either end up a great buy or a union flop it depends on his attitude but I think we might have found a hidden gem. For the life of me I don't know how he is not good enough to get a super 15 contract, Australian rugby makes some weird decisions but I think he is better than a lot of the contracted rugby players I have seen.

have no idea how he has not got a S15 contract, apparently just after he signed with us the brumbies showed interest, too little too late.

He plays rugby 7's for Australia, if you can defend in that you can defend anywhere. The up and back of league defence will test his fitness, espescially being a bigger guy.

Im very excited at his potential
 
@Goose said:
@sunshine coast tiger said:
Watched him yesterday on the tv he sure has size and pace. Knows his way to the try line as well. If his defence is good enough for NRL he will go a long way. He will either end up a great buy or a union flop it depends on his attitude but I think we might have found a hidden gem. For the life of me I don't know how he is not good enough to get a super 15 contract, Australian rugby makes some weird decisions but I think he is better than a lot of the contracted rugby players I have seen.

have no idea how he has not got a S15 contract, apparently just after he signed with us the brumbies showed interest, too little too late.

He plays rugby 7's for Australia, if you can defend in that you can defend anywhere. The up and back of league defence will test his fitness, espescially being a bigger guy.

Im very excited at his potential

I'm not convinced Look at some of the franchises in Australia's Super 15 and how they really struggled in this years comp
There must be some reason he was not picked up by at least 1 franchise even as a back up
Hope I'm wrong and he turns out to be a hidden diamond but in this day and age that sort of thing rarely happens
 
Like Happy Tiger, Iam npt so sure on Grant. Seen him play Rugby a few times and very hard to judge his skills as the standard of the competition is pretty low. Iam sure any player that had his size and speed would go alright in Shute shield rugby but not so sure in the NRL.

I doubt he will get much of a shot at Fgrade for a while, I think he will have to prove himself in the lower grade and that is not always a easy thing to do. Hope Iam wrong
 
How much work will he have to do if they stick him on the wing?
I hope im not proven wrong, but this guy is an athlete and he can catch and kick better than most wingers, and is very light on his feet, and he is going to get great ball in our team.

Sure his defence will be tested, and his fitness in league, but from the last few woodies games he looks like fire and seems to have a fantastic attitude.

Plus the people saying he had the courage of a pea should have watched the try he scored in the corner on saturday, where he ran hard at the opposition and crashed over.

This could be the smartest signing we have made, or it could be a flop and he plays one game then dissappears, but lets hope not!

cmon 2012!!!
 
Alan Jones, who know's a little bit about Rugby, said this morning that he has no idea why no-one picked this kid up in Rugby circles.

He reckons that Sheens is on to a beauty with Grant.
 
I think it is a myth that Shute shield is so weak. Quite a few players I know (who are no where near the standard of John Grant) have given league a crack and picked up decent coin playing bundy cup and NSW cup and done reasonably well. They are different games, and not everyone is suited to switch codes, but a strong player in Shute Shield is a good footballer.
He runs the 100m in less than 11 sec, he is 6'4 and 100kg, he has wonderful hands, positional play on the wing is more difficult in rugby than league, so he'll have no trouble there, he has all the ingredients to make an outstanding transition.
 
Let not bag one of our own let alone a newby to our Great game of Rugby league.

I'm hoping this guy is the buy of the year next year.

Good luck John Grant.
 
It will also be interesting to see what a full off-season with the Tigers does for him as opposed to the training he would do with Eastwood. His fitness levels will surely improve and he may gain a kilo or two in muscle which would be handy.

Next year's trials should be pretty interesting with a few new faces in the squad.
 
@Goose said:
I think it is a myth that Shute shield is so weak. Quite a few players I know (who are no where near the standard of John Grant) have given league a crack and picked up decent coin playing bundy cup and NSW cup and done reasonably well. They are different games, and not everyone is suited to switch codes, but a strong player in Shute Shield is a good footballer.
He runs the 100m in less than 11 sec, he is 6'4 and 100kg, he has wonderful hands, positional play on the wing is more difficult in rugby than league, so he'll have no trouble there, he has all the ingredients to make an outstanding transition.

Goose I would imagine that most of our backline (barring Lui) Would of done sub 11 on the track
Once you put on size though you lose a yard or two
 
@willow said:
It will also be interesting to see what a full off-season with the Tigers does for him as opposed to the training he would do with Eastwood. His fitness levels will surely improve and he may gain a kilo or two in muscle which would be handy.

Next year's trials should be pretty interesting with a few new faces in the squad.

Most importantly, competition for spots. I hope Grant is a killer from the start, it keeps our backline honest and performing at or above expectations.
 
@happy tiger said:
@Goose said:
I think it is a myth that Shute shield is so weak. Quite a few players I know (who are no where near the standard of John Grant) have given league a crack and picked up decent coin playing bundy cup and NSW cup and done reasonably well. They are different games, and not everyone is suited to switch codes, but a strong player in Shute Shield is a good footballer.
He runs the 100m in less than 11 sec, he is 6'4 and 100kg, he has wonderful hands, positional play on the wing is more difficult in rugby than league, so he'll have no trouble there, he has all the ingredients to make an outstanding transition.

Goose I would imagine that most of our backline (barring Lui) Would of done sub 11 on the track
Once you put on size though you lose a yard or two

Not many footballers get anywhere near sub 11\. Im not sure if you have seen the Gatorade sprint race they did last year. Grant flogged the NRL players. What is not well publicised it was in the middle of a loading training period with the Wallabies 7's program, which would have severely hampered his top end pace.

He is seriously quick for football standards. Actually he is seriously quick for anyone. Michael O'Conner said something like he is close to the fastest footballer he has come accross, hyperbole comes into these things im sure, but is considerably quicker than anything we have.

There is some unknowns about him as a signing, but there is no doubting his speed.
 
@Goose said:
@happy tiger said:
@Goose said:
I think it is a myth that Shute shield is so weak. Quite a few players I know (who are no where near the standard of John Grant) have given league a crack and picked up decent coin playing bundy cup and NSW cup and done reasonably well. They are different games, and not everyone is suited to switch codes, but a strong player in Shute Shield is a good footballer.
He runs the 100m in less than 11 sec, he is 6'4 and 100kg, he has wonderful hands, positional play on the wing is more difficult in rugby than league, so he'll have no trouble there, he has all the ingredients to make an outstanding transition.

Goose I would imagine that most of our backline (barring Lui) Would of done sub 11 on the track
Once you put on size though you lose a yard or two

Not many footballers get anywhere near sub 11\. Im not sure if you have seen the Gatorade sprint race they did last year. Grant flogged the NRL players. What is not well publicised it was in the middle of a loading training period with the Wallabies 7's program, which would have severely hampered his top end pace.

He is seriously quick for football standards. Actually he is seriously quick for anyone. Michael O'Conner said something like he is close to the fastest footballer he has come accross, hyperbole comes into these things im sure, but is considerably quicker than anything we have.

There is some unknowns about him as a signing, but there is no doubting his speed.

Agree as footballers they aren't anywhere near sub 11 but most wingers and centres usually have a track background of some sorts Goose
Most players are trained to get top end speed so they can hit top speed within 10-15 metres whereas on the track you aren't wanting to hit top speed until 50-60 metre mark
So the footballer loses the ability to maintain top speed over a longer distance and therefore struggle to maintain it
 

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