851
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@hobbo2803 said:
That was the best of his bs spin, "You guys are only concentrating on the competition ladder and results", wow, just wow, there is no comeback for that pearler. :crazy
Wests Tigers star Robbie Farah dropped from NRL to reserve grade
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That was the best of his bs spin, "You guys are only concentrating on the competition ladder and results", wow, just wow, there is no comeback for that pearler. :crazy
GNR4LIFE
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@cktiger said:
As if Farah's ego would stand for an entire yr of reserve grade. This is the final straw. He's gone.
851
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@851 said:
Thanks for the negative rating on this JT, I mean Boonboon2, I can not see anything wrong with this post.
supercoach
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This has nothing to do with football, it's all about getting Farah out the door,or should I say get the majority of his contract off our books come 2017\. Now this might work,and Robbie seeks a gig elsewhere or it may back fire,with Robbie opting to be the first one million a season reserve grader. The NRL has become a very dirty buissness and the tactics used by clubs and player managers is now ugly and ruthless. Sadly all the good work the club has done over the past few months on and off he field will be over shadowed by Farahgate once again. There are no winners okay Farah gets his million,but at what cost? and the club once again looks like a basket case
My mind goes back to a black Sunday afternoon two years ago when we got thumped by the Dragons,when this crap all started. We have not learnt much have we
My mind goes back to a black Sunday afternoon two years ago when we got thumped by the Dragons,when this crap all started. We have not learnt much have we
cqtiger
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I have read some really childish posts on here. Emotional blithering mostly.
Some suggesting that we go to watch the Newtown game but boycott the main game. Really?
Another who says they are now quitting having anything to do with this club. It looked like a new username to me so I'm guessing that they'll linger and write a post with their 'real' username when we win games.
JT has been saying all along that he thinks Robbie stunts the play of our halves. To me it looks like he has had enough of Farah not playing to the game plan. Yes, even from the bench.
Gould could see it with SOO and he is no fool.
I said on page one that blind Freddie could see this coming. Is it the right decision? Time will tell. What has really impressed me is that we now have a coach with the full support of our board. Finally.
Some suggesting that we go to watch the Newtown game but boycott the main game. Really?
Another who says they are now quitting having anything to do with this club. It looked like a new username to me so I'm guessing that they'll linger and write a post with their 'real' username when we win games.
JT has been saying all along that he thinks Robbie stunts the play of our halves. To me it looks like he has had enough of Farah not playing to the game plan. Yes, even from the bench.
Gould could see it with SOO and he is no fool.
I said on page one that blind Freddie could see this coming. Is it the right decision? Time will tell. What has really impressed me is that we now have a coach with the full support of our board. Finally.
i'm getting the feeling this must be sanctioned from above Taylor…i think he will end up the fall guy...Farah will leave ...new coach fresh start...
All the people recently saying what a great job Pascoe is doing hasn't put a foot wrong...well here comes the test...
All the people recently saying what a great job Pascoe is doing hasn't put a foot wrong...well here comes the test...
Our beloved Tigers began to implode in round 20 against the Dragons in 2014 when they where playing in a season defining game with the whole Tallis/Robbie/Potter saga…..
Now again 2 years on, its 2016 we face a season defining game against you guessed it the Dragons also in round 20 where we have another timely dilemma where they look like they will implode once again
Coincidence or what?
Now again 2 years on, its 2016 we face a season defining game against you guessed it the Dragons also in round 20 where we have another timely dilemma where they look like they will implode once again
Coincidence or what?
supercoach
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@Geo. said:
r
Geo I think your slant on things is close to the money. There will be a head and probably two.
Pascoe has probably already rang his mate Ivan to get his clipboard and whistle out of the garage
@Geo. said:
You are right this is a test for the CEO as well..I think it was SuperCoach that stated Talyor would be the coach to clean out the mess and the next coach will get the reward that Talyor created …Farah and Ayoud will drag this through the media once again as they both have form with this!
vlad
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@wmlmaster said:
It's Groundhog Day !
Harvey
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@tigerap said:
Was he still in his training gear? Did he go out a back gate and was there a car waiting to whisk him away to a waiting Weidler?
happy_tiger
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@Geo. said:
Of course it was G Man
Pascoe would be firing from the hip if it was not sanctioned from above
But any chance to take a pot shot at Taylor
People need to simplify this , what is more important , keeping Elijah Taylor or keeping Robbie Farah ??
Very easy answer
happy_tiger
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@supercoach said:
Henjak ??
This whole debacle is an absolute shocker. I like to see both sides of the story and evaluate a decision from there so I haven't commented too much on the entire situation because there are so man pros and cons to the whole drama.
Farah is on an suspected $950k next year. To be fair to Robbie, you'd probably think that $600k max is about a fair market price for his services when you evaluate the cap rise next year. After all he still is arguably the best hooker in NSW. Now the important thing that I think so many people tend to forget is the huge pay cuts this guy took to 1\. Help the club remain compliant with the salary cap, 2\. Remain a one club player for the club he loves and 3\. Help the club keep a core group of players intact. From a financial point of view and the interest on the $300-$400k that he sacrificed that's pretty substantial (although I'm sure it helped his taxable income).
He was then told that he would receive that money in good-will at a later date. That time has come. He's now in his early 30's, his form isn't what it used to be and he's received a tap on the shoulder. The club has advised they will honour his deal regardless. He has the option to leave (still gets paid what is owed) or remain as he is contractually obligated to do so. Now put yourself in his shoes. You want to remain and finish your career with a company you love. A company you lost money for in order to help out and now when the time comes to be returned the money, you are told look for another job! Personally, I don't blame Robbie for digging his heels in.
Now Robbie has become public enemy number 1 and appears like a selfish individual holding back the team. He's causing salary cap problems due to not leaving through no fault of his own. Fans are blaming him for the inability to resign other players. People are saying he's overpaid for what he brings to the team, yet they don't seem to remember that the club were the one who put him in that situation in the first place.
Robbie has proven to be a tough guy to deal with at times and is definitely guilty of being overly passionate and at times overstepped authority and put some noses out of joint. He's an intense competitor. I could think of worse things to be guilty of though. However, I do believe that Robbie held too much power within the club.
From all reports Robbie was going to stick to his guns and play out his contract. At the end of the day he's the best number 9 we have and he sure as hell plays better there compared to our other fill in options.
Then you have the other factor - Jason Taylor
His first major move at the club is giving Robbie the "you're going to play reserve grade if you don't leave" talk. Tick for disrespect. Ballin is also signed. However, I do applaud the fact that Taylor hasn't allowed Robbie to play any power games like he has in the past. JT also appears to have been given more say then Potter ever did, who I have always felt sorry for. Robbie relinquishes the captaincy.
Robbie says he's staying and by all reports the hatchet was buried and they were both enjoying a working relationship and it was somewhat tenable.
Robbie is then moved to the bench. Strategic team move or another tactic to annoy Robbie. Rumours begin that the coach believes that Robbie stifles the attack of Brooks, Moses and Tedesco and is effecting their games. Farah plays reasonably well off the bench, the team improve, we win a few, good times. Things would appear to be all good in Tiger land.
Who knows, Robbie may have ended up deciding to part ways on good terms and get the farewell he deserves?
By all means the coaching plan should be in the best interests of the team, but anyone who believes that a retiring veteran who's best position is in the back row is a better hooker "for the team" interchanged with an 80 min lock forward who has barely ever played at hooker is better than the current NSW hooker who can go 80 mins if required has rocks in their head. If anyone deserves to be dropped it's Halatau. He's solid and provides valuable experience, but that's about it.
I think there is some potential in there with JT as a coach. I've questioned some selections and a few other things and continue to do so at times, but I have seen some improvements on game day. Good modern day coaches are more man-managers than tactical experts. In regards to Robbie, I don't think he has handled this well. Others may feel differently about JT. John Asiata from the Cowboys was a friend of my old housemate. JT was his coach when he was in the 20's and told me the year he was coming to us that he was great with the young guys, so I guess it comes down to individual perspective.
If we were looking to the future than Cherrington and Liddle in the team is the way to go.
I just can't help but feel for Robbie in this situation. Yes it would suck and I'd be annoyed as hell if we lost Elijah Taylor or another valuable team member because of the cap, but the club put themselves in this position not Robbie. Selfishly I want Robbie to leave, so we can secure our future, but I also respect his decision all the same.
The latest news that Robbie has been dropped to reserves is another disrespectful ploy to push Robbie out in my opinion and is just the complete wrong way to handle an already tense situation. There really isn't any other reason to do it and the club statement with their reasoning is laughable and embarrassing to say the least. Unless there is some issue behind the scenes and Robbie has done something very wrong, then to me, it shows a complete lack of professionalism, management and respect. It's also a decision that has the potential to cause us to miss the top 8.
To be fair, Robbie so far has gone about his business and taken the punches in his stride.
The biggest issue I see in all of this is what other players will see through the treatment of Farah. It's a business but we're human after all.
If I'm Tedesco, I'd be saying to myself if I sign a long term deal, I cop a few injuries, or my form drops, this is how they're going to treat me? I'd be signing with whatever club is paying me the most and a club that shows respect.
Sorry for the essay, I'm just fed up with it all. In the end it appears like the club is backing JT on this to the death. Be prepared for another media frenzy. You deserve better Farah, but I honestly think it would be in his best interests to sort something else out, finish the year in class and move on to bigger and better things. Maybe one day you can return and be the coach you always wanted to be.
Farah is on an suspected $950k next year. To be fair to Robbie, you'd probably think that $600k max is about a fair market price for his services when you evaluate the cap rise next year. After all he still is arguably the best hooker in NSW. Now the important thing that I think so many people tend to forget is the huge pay cuts this guy took to 1\. Help the club remain compliant with the salary cap, 2\. Remain a one club player for the club he loves and 3\. Help the club keep a core group of players intact. From a financial point of view and the interest on the $300-$400k that he sacrificed that's pretty substantial (although I'm sure it helped his taxable income).
He was then told that he would receive that money in good-will at a later date. That time has come. He's now in his early 30's, his form isn't what it used to be and he's received a tap on the shoulder. The club has advised they will honour his deal regardless. He has the option to leave (still gets paid what is owed) or remain as he is contractually obligated to do so. Now put yourself in his shoes. You want to remain and finish your career with a company you love. A company you lost money for in order to help out and now when the time comes to be returned the money, you are told look for another job! Personally, I don't blame Robbie for digging his heels in.
Now Robbie has become public enemy number 1 and appears like a selfish individual holding back the team. He's causing salary cap problems due to not leaving through no fault of his own. Fans are blaming him for the inability to resign other players. People are saying he's overpaid for what he brings to the team, yet they don't seem to remember that the club were the one who put him in that situation in the first place.
Robbie has proven to be a tough guy to deal with at times and is definitely guilty of being overly passionate and at times overstepped authority and put some noses out of joint. He's an intense competitor. I could think of worse things to be guilty of though. However, I do believe that Robbie held too much power within the club.
From all reports Robbie was going to stick to his guns and play out his contract. At the end of the day he's the best number 9 we have and he sure as hell plays better there compared to our other fill in options.
Then you have the other factor - Jason Taylor
His first major move at the club is giving Robbie the "you're going to play reserve grade if you don't leave" talk. Tick for disrespect. Ballin is also signed. However, I do applaud the fact that Taylor hasn't allowed Robbie to play any power games like he has in the past. JT also appears to have been given more say then Potter ever did, who I have always felt sorry for. Robbie relinquishes the captaincy.
Robbie says he's staying and by all reports the hatchet was buried and they were both enjoying a working relationship and it was somewhat tenable.
Robbie is then moved to the bench. Strategic team move or another tactic to annoy Robbie. Rumours begin that the coach believes that Robbie stifles the attack of Brooks, Moses and Tedesco and is effecting their games. Farah plays reasonably well off the bench, the team improve, we win a few, good times. Things would appear to be all good in Tiger land.
Who knows, Robbie may have ended up deciding to part ways on good terms and get the farewell he deserves?
By all means the coaching plan should be in the best interests of the team, but anyone who believes that a retiring veteran who's best position is in the back row is a better hooker "for the team" interchanged with an 80 min lock forward who has barely ever played at hooker is better than the current NSW hooker who can go 80 mins if required has rocks in their head. If anyone deserves to be dropped it's Halatau. He's solid and provides valuable experience, but that's about it.
I think there is some potential in there with JT as a coach. I've questioned some selections and a few other things and continue to do so at times, but I have seen some improvements on game day. Good modern day coaches are more man-managers than tactical experts. In regards to Robbie, I don't think he has handled this well. Others may feel differently about JT. John Asiata from the Cowboys was a friend of my old housemate. JT was his coach when he was in the 20's and told me the year he was coming to us that he was great with the young guys, so I guess it comes down to individual perspective.
If we were looking to the future than Cherrington and Liddle in the team is the way to go.
I just can't help but feel for Robbie in this situation. Yes it would suck and I'd be annoyed as hell if we lost Elijah Taylor or another valuable team member because of the cap, but the club put themselves in this position not Robbie. Selfishly I want Robbie to leave, so we can secure our future, but I also respect his decision all the same.
The latest news that Robbie has been dropped to reserves is another disrespectful ploy to push Robbie out in my opinion and is just the complete wrong way to handle an already tense situation. There really isn't any other reason to do it and the club statement with their reasoning is laughable and embarrassing to say the least. Unless there is some issue behind the scenes and Robbie has done something very wrong, then to me, it shows a complete lack of professionalism, management and respect. It's also a decision that has the potential to cause us to miss the top 8.
To be fair, Robbie so far has gone about his business and taken the punches in his stride.
The biggest issue I see in all of this is what other players will see through the treatment of Farah. It's a business but we're human after all.
If I'm Tedesco, I'd be saying to myself if I sign a long term deal, I cop a few injuries, or my form drops, this is how they're going to treat me? I'd be signing with whatever club is paying me the most and a club that shows respect.
Sorry for the essay, I'm just fed up with it all. In the end it appears like the club is backing JT on this to the death. Be prepared for another media frenzy. You deserve better Farah, but I honestly think it would be in his best interests to sort something else out, finish the year in class and move on to bigger and better things. Maybe one day you can return and be the coach you always wanted to be.
happy_tiger
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And it has to be Cherrington you'd imagine
tigersforever
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@cqtiger said:
No Gould is a Farah hater, and no NSW Fan. He is an ego maniac who thinks he knows everything. Why is he even allowed to work in the media and get a soapbox that other club bosses do not get.
Wayne Bennett dropped W Lewis to end his career. Bennett terrible coach???
Warren Ryan punted Turvey Mortimer…awful coach think he coached 2 premierships??
Mick Hagan punted Matty John's...premiership winning coach with obviously no idea.
JT has to be admired for his stance in my view
Warren Ryan punted Turvey Mortimer…awful coach think he coached 2 premierships??
Mick Hagan punted Matty John's...premiership winning coach with obviously no idea.
JT has to be admired for his stance in my view
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