weststigerman
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I noticed Blore has a tigers photo now in the team list. Pretty sure he didn't have one yesterday, wonder if that means he's in for his debut.
Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10
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Chicken_Faced_Killa
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@weststigerman said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182440) said:
Still a Penrith one on the NRL app. Pretty sure these are promo photos taken at the start of the year.
tony soprano
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I’m pretty excited about this weeks team just hoping for execution don’t want another drop ball a thon at Leichhardt.
Looking forward to seeing Walters at 6 I hope him and benj are a good combo.
Looking forward to seeing Walters at 6 I hope him and benj are a good combo.
weststigerman
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@Chicken_Faced_Killa said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182444) said:
Yeah you’re right. Don’t understand why they use a panthers photo for their app and a tigers one for the website.
Chicken_Faced_Killa
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@weststigerman said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182449) said:
That is weird. Maybe they have update it just not in all locations.
Hope he gets a run - would be good to see what he offers
JD Tiger
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@watersider said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182436) said:
If we dump Madge as coach, then it's yet another 3 years of rebuilding as the new coach waits for existing contracts to run out yet again. We have to endure with Madge, it's our only hope to get anywhere within the next 3 years.
@watersider said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182436) said:
The impression I get is, nobody is immune. Play to the agreed standard or get dropped a peg, at the same time fiddling with combinations. And why not? We're still sitting mid table and Maguire can put the squeeze on anyone he sees as underperforming with an eye to the future. Notice for example that Cheekam is sliding down the rankings. Maguire is an astute coach who wants to keep his job and wants to win.
@watersider said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182436) said:
Mate for me I like what he is doing... With what he has been given and cap restrictions I think he has done a great job plus the fact we never seem to get any 50/50 calls for which we would have more wins.
For years we have had players just playing and expecting to be in the team and it shows them that they need to be on every week to be an NRL player and have success. Look at the top Coaches Bellemy, Robinson, Wayne B etc.. they would not put up with what some of our players dish up week in week out. Now look at the coaches that persist with under performing players and you see them lose there jobs within a few years as the club is not performing.
I believe his main focus this year is not to win it but more to set a standard that wins consistently in the NRL moving forward and if they don't want to be a part of it they will be moved on.
Lets be honest here the Dragons, Broncos, Manly, Sharks, Cowboys have a better team on paper than us but we are on top of them because we are playing as a champion team and not a team of champions.. All players you hear from including Ex player say Madge is a people person and cares about his players.
for me I am very excited about next year on wards when Madge can get rid of the dead wood and buy a few of the players he wants to compliment the massive amount of promising juniors we have coming..
There is another way to look at it.
By making continued adjustments to the spine. The old adage that you have one star player to win everything for everyone can’t be relied upon.
The onus or focus is that the whole team needs to play to a standard to win the game. Having an over reliance on a particular position or person sets teams up for decades of failure. Think how long Newcastle have taken to recover from the shadow of Joey Johns. The roosters are a good example of the standard of play for each player we need to get to. Obviously Keary is a star in his own right and they haven’t won without him however if they had a decent depth player they should be able to cover him with the rest of the team stepping up. Madge is using standards as the motive for promoting and demoting but there also is the chance that because of no second division having players with match fitness is more important then ever.
By making continued adjustments to the spine. The old adage that you have one star player to win everything for everyone can’t be relied upon.
The onus or focus is that the whole team needs to play to a standard to win the game. Having an over reliance on a particular position or person sets teams up for decades of failure. Think how long Newcastle have taken to recover from the shadow of Joey Johns. The roosters are a good example of the standard of play for each player we need to get to. Obviously Keary is a star in his own right and they haven’t won without him however if they had a decent depth player they should be able to cover him with the rest of the team stepping up. Madge is using standards as the motive for promoting and demoting but there also is the chance that because of no second division having players with match fitness is more important then ever.
We’ve had years of complaining about players not being held accountable and being comfortable knowing they won’t be dropped. We now don’t like that Madge is dropping players. I love it. Hold them accountable, give them all a shot and work out who should stay or needs to be moved on. We are slowly building a competitive roster. I’m happy to give Madge leeway this year to put into action his long term plan.
@watersider said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182436) said:
I am assuming players are being dropped because they are not following the game plan but it is a very risky move.
Mary at St George chopped and changed for weeks and it made things worse, the losses and the lack of stability seemed to erode the teams confidence and left them in a huge hole.
If players are not playing to expectations or following instructions you have to do something.
@Sart0ri said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182470) said:
I can see why Madge would be doing this but I wonder about the effect on the players. If you’re constantly looking over your shoulder how does that impact morale and performance? I would like to know I have the backing of the coach.
Are we going to see a player not wanting to try an offload that could change a game for fear of the coaches wrath? I am on the sideline with this one. Yes have standards, demand a level of Individual performance but not at the expense of the team.
rihannafan1
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He's only dropping players that aren't performing and it's not like it's kneejerk. Benji had a couple of average games in defense, not just one. Brooks just hasn't hit his straps yet this year; the 'official' reason was his defense last week but he's consistently been an excellent defender so the real reason is he just isn't generating chances (especially compared to previous years where he has always been near the top of try assists in NRL).
Dropped Packer for a brainsnap, would have done BJ the same (still might). Won't be surprised to see Mbye dropped too if we have any actual options to replace him.
There's a reason AD, Nof, Luc haven't been dropped, McIntyre has been retained and so on. You can talk about continuity but the overall point he's made is that the team hasn't proved anything so no one can feel or deserves entitlement. If they start winning you'll see continuity.
Dropped Packer for a brainsnap, would have done BJ the same (still might). Won't be surprised to see Mbye dropped too if we have any actual options to replace him.
There's a reason AD, Nof, Luc haven't been dropped, McIntyre has been retained and so on. You can talk about continuity but the overall point he's made is that the team hasn't proved anything so no one can feel or deserves entitlement. If they start winning you'll see continuity.
JD Tiger
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@rihannafan1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182480) said:
Well said. Madge is making them accountable, which is scary for us, it's not something we've ever seen before at WT. And it can go belly up. But I do agree with some people who seem to have the opinion, that it is the only way we can hopefully change our club from being a perennial 9th place joke, to a contender. Though (I hate to even think it) unless there's a miracle, we won't be a contender this year. Let's get in that Top 8 though...
fibrodreaming
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@bbobb said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182473) said:
Eisenhuth made an interesting comment about Madge in his radio interview. He said that Madge is very honest with the players and that the players always know where they stand with him.
He said that with some coaches he has played under, one never knows where one stands, so that being dropped can come as a complete surprise.
It seems that Madge puts his players on-notice and that when they are dropped (or relegated to the bench in Brooks' case) it would not come as much of a surprise, and they would certainly know why they were dropped.
Eisenhuth, at least, appreciates the coach's honesty.
@fibrodreaming said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182518) said:
I don’t think any player will be thinking the coach doesn’t have faith in them, as Eiso said he’s very honest with them and I’ve heard other players say they know madge believes in them all to become that top level team.
I’m glad we have a coach who isn’t afraid to make the tough decisions and drop players. You don’t get anywhere letting guys keep their spots if they don’t deserve it.
People are saying McGregor made lots of changes at dragons but he didn’t actually drop the guys who needed dropping to be honest, Norman has been dreadful and he’s been in the team every week. It took him forever to debut Clune who deserved it for half a season. The only time there’s been changes is when the team list is out of his control
It astounds me that when a team is not performing competatively the first choice of reply is "the coach needs to go"the team is not performing for him...No the first choice of reply should be "have a look at the product (players) purchased at exorbitant prices"" and then see what value they offer for the price,after all they are professional NRL players in the big arena and should know how to play to structures and gameplans...if not they should find another career..
Funnily enough some much younger players learn to play the way the coach wants and seem to go onto better futures in the game...
Its not always the coaches fault sometimes he doesnt have much to work with...sound familiar...other coaches attempt to coach at this level but havent the complete ability to do so ...JT comes to mind..
Its a 2 way street,you either make it or you dont,its the results that impact players/coaches and therein lies the answer to players being dropped or coaches being sacked...
Funnily enough some much younger players learn to play the way the coach wants and seem to go onto better futures in the game...
Its not always the coaches fault sometimes he doesnt have much to work with...sound familiar...other coaches attempt to coach at this level but havent the complete ability to do so ...JT comes to mind..
Its a 2 way street,you either make it or you dont,its the results that impact players/coaches and therein lies the answer to players being dropped or coaches being sacked...
happy_tiger
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@TrueTiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182536) said:
21 seasons now TT ...same questions ..same situations ...basically the same results bar 3 seasons
@weststigerman said in [Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane Rd 10](/post/1182449) said:
Do you honestly think the way the Refs exude bias, the way the MRC also can never get it right that the NRL could even get anything right.
Even the easiest of things, like a player wearing another teams jersey on our profile on the NRL website.
