Will Wests survive alone

[Abraham]

I would say that ever since Balmain started defaulting on their contributions to the JV Wests has stood alone.

I can only see it being a good thing.

Well the NRL has kicked in funding, and Balmain has still had a say in all boardroom decisions to date… so I don't see 'wests standing along' as being the case yet.

However the next 12 months will likely be a preview of things to come, as my understanding is that Dave Smith would like the independent directors to stay on for the long term.

Balmain's most likely salvation is a private investor. Would be great if that Investor was Wests Ashfield, enabling them to control the board outright and consolidate the WT presence in the inner west under one roof. Just a thought.

 

[magpiecol]

All three need each other for existence.

And that is what Wests and Balmain have yet to fully comprehend and accept.

If they haven't realised it after 15 years, then don't hold your breath for anything changing anytime soon.

Wests Tigers is firmly held back by archaic thinking from both Balmain and Wests, who both are still trying to run their club as it was circa 1970.

Do you ever read what has been going on at the club over the past couple of months before writing the above crap?

 

[madunit]

Hows about instead of following me around and acting like a petulant twat, you partake in the discussion.

I specificially stated Balmain and Wests clubs, not the Wests Tigers.

The new WT board has no control over the Balmain and Wests clubs, who both have wasted so much time and money working against each other, to the detriment of all 3 clubs.

 

[magpiecol]

Hows about instead of following me around and acting like a petulant twat, you partake in the discussion.

I specificially stated Balmain and Wests clubs, not the Wests Tigers.

The new WT board has no control over the Balmain and Wests clubs, who both have wasted so much time and money working against each other, to the detriment of all 3 clubs.

You really are a dope.

Who do you think has been funding the Weststigers for the past couple of years? You have ten seconds.

Answer:- Wests.

 

[madunit]

The club was formed a bit further back than a 'couple of years'

 

[Guest]

Personal attacks will not be tolerated. The next one I see on here will result in the offending member being placed on mod review.

 

[wtfl1981]

Without Wests Ashfield support and $$ there would be no WT. Simple.

Wests Ashfield have a charter to support Rugby League in the forms of WT and also Wests Magpies at lower grades.

Ashfield will more than likely fully own WT in the near future. The WT identity is here to stay.

Apart from sponsorship of Wests JL, Campbelltown Leagues club are separate and provide no major backing to WT.

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[1_4_chicken_chips]

The current weststigers do not need any of them to survive .they get a heap in sponsorship and half the salary cap off the Nrl and if they ever came on the market they would be snapped up in a flash .be careful what you wish for ,because the new buyer may just buy them and revert back to their old name ….

 

[1_4_chicken_chips]

And further more , western suburbs have no chance of owning them outright like some fossils are hoping for .

 

[magpiecol]

And further more , western suburbs have no chance of owning them outright like some fossils are hoping for .

So, who are the fossils that have told you this?

 

[madunit]

All three need each other for existence.

And that is what Wests and Balmain have yet to fully comprehend and accept.

If they haven't realised it after 15 years, then don't hold your breath for anything changing anytime soon.

Wests Tigers is firmly held back by archaic thinking from both Balmain and Wests, who both are still trying to run their club as it was circa 1970.

Do you ever read what has been going on at the club over the past couple of months before writing the above crap?

I distincly and very clearly stated the Balmain and Wests clubs as well as WT

The new WT board doesn't control those two clubs.

 

[magpiecol]

All three need each other for existence.

And that is what Wests and Balmain have yet to fully comprehend and accept.

If they haven't realised it after 15 years, then don't hold your breath for anything changing anytime soon.

Wests Tigers is firmly held back by archaic thinking from both Balmain and Wests, who both are still trying to run their club as it was circa 1970.

Do you ever read what has been going on at the club over the past couple of months before writing the above crap?

I distincly and very clearly stated the Balmain and Wests clubs as well as WT

The new WT board doesn't control those two clubs.

You said that all three need each other to survive. I assume that you are talking about Balmain, Wests and the Weststigers?

For the last couple of seasons, Weststigers are getting the money from Wests Ashfield, Balmain not so much. So I guess that we only need two to survive.

 

[boonboon]

All three need each other for existence.

And that is what Wests and Balmain have yet to fully comprehend and accept.

If they haven't realised it after 15 years, then don't hold your breath for anything changing anytime soon.

Wests Tigers is firmly held back by archaic thinking from both Balmain and Wests, who both are still trying to run their club as it was circa 1970.

Do you ever read what has been going on at the club over the past couple of months before writing the above crap?

I distincly and very clearly stated the Balmain and Wests clubs as well as WT

The new WT board doesn't control those two clubs.

You said that all three need each other to survive. I assume that you are talking about Balmain, Wests and the Weststigers?

For the last couple of seasons, Weststigers are getting the money from Wests Ashfield, Balmain not so much. So I guess that we only need two to survive.

If you think that the the other thing they don't need is campbelltown - Wests Ashfield is based in the inner west like Balmain and would be better off in ditching campbelltown and Leichardt. What they do need is the tiger logo - So perhaps they will rebadge the leagues club to Wests Tigers and ditch the magpie, campbelltown and Balmain

 

[Geo]

If you think that the the other thing they don't need is campbelltown - Wests Ashfield is based in the inner west like Balmain and would be better off in ditching campbelltown and Leichardt. What they do need is the tiger logo - So perhaps they will rebadge the leagues club to Wests Tigers and ditch the magpie, campbelltown and Balmain

They are known as Wests Ashfield…Why do they need the 'Tiger logo'...they seem to be doing fine without it...Do you think they would get more patronage?

I don't think they would give a stuff....

 

[madunit]

All three need each other for existence.

And that is what Wests and Balmain have yet to fully comprehend and accept.

If they haven't realised it after 15 years, then don't hold your breath for anything changing anytime soon.

Wests Tigers is firmly held back by archaic thinking from both Balmain and Wests, who both are still trying to run their club as it was circa 1970.

Do you ever read what has been going on at the club over the past couple of months before writing the above crap?

I distincly and very clearly stated the Balmain and Wests clubs as well as WT

The new WT board doesn't control those two clubs.

You said that all three need each other to survive. I assume that you are talking about Balmain, Wests and the Weststigers?

For the last couple of seasons, Weststigers are getting the money from Wests Ashfield, Balmain not so much. So I guess that we only need two to survive.

This is very much what needs to happen.

I'd even suggest something a bit more radical.

Wests Ashfield pay out Balmain's debt. In return they get the Balmain's venues and rebrand them as Wests Tigers. Wests Ashfield get a majority % of the profit (ie 65% and Balmain get the remaining profit). Balmain can still have their committee and organisation etc and have their members on the WT board.

Wests Ashfield change to Wests Tigers and be the official Leagues Club for the NRL side.

If Magpies want to keep their club at Campbelltown, then they can do so if they wish, but ultimately, they should rebrand as well.

The organisations running Balmain and Wests would still exist and would still run the WT.

The leagues clubs will all be run by Wests Ashfield as Wests Tigers.

 

[mike]

You said that all three need each other to survive. I assume that you are talking about Balmain, Wests and the Weststigers?

For the last couple of seasons, Weststigers are getting the money from Wests Ashfield, Balmain not so much. So I guess that we only need two to survive.

This is very much what needs to happen.

I'd even suggest something a bit more radical.

Wests Ashfield pay out Balmain's debt. In return they get the Balmain's venues and rebrand them as Wests Tigers. Wests Ashfield get a majority % of the profit (ie 65% and Balmain get the remaining profit). Balmain can still have their committee and organisation etc and have their members on the WT board.

Wests Ashfield change to Wests Tigers and be the official Leagues Club for the NRL side.

If Magpies want to keep their club at Campbelltown, then they can do so if they wish, but ultimately, they should rebrand as well.

The organisations running Balmain and Wests would still exist and would still run the WT.

The leagues clubs will all be run by Wests Ashfield as Wests Tigers.

A bit of wishful thinking there. Wests Ashfield is a viable club (not talking about football here) on its own, it makes a motza. I can't see a business taking on the debt of Balmain, I don't see the business benefit in that. No return on investment in the foreseeable future.

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[wtfl1981]

And further more , western suburbs have no chance of owning them outright like some fossils are hoping for .

Wests Group (Ashfield & WSDRLFC) have first and last rights to purchase Balmain FC share in WT should they be unable to maintain or meet their financial obligation to WT.

I have said million times. This type of ownership DOES NOT mean WT will revert back to Wests Magpies.

The Licence issued by ARLC is Wests Tigers and that cannot change.

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[wtfl1981]

Do you ever read what has been going on at the club over the past couple of months before writing the above crap?

I distincly and very clearly stated the Balmain and Wests clubs as well as WT

The new WT board doesn't control those two clubs.

You said that all three need each other to survive. I assume that you are talking about Balmain, Wests and the Weststigers?

For the last couple of seasons, Weststigers are getting the money from Wests Ashfield, Balmain not so much. So I guess that we only need two to survive.

This is very much what needs to happen.

I'd even suggest something a bit more radical.

Wests Ashfield pay out Balmain's debt. In return they get the Balmain's venues and rebrand them as Wests Tigers. Wests Ashfield get a majority % of the profit (ie 65% and Balmain get the remaining profit). Balmain can still have their committee and organisation etc and have their members on the WT board.

Wests Ashfield change to Wests Tigers and be the official Leagues Club for the NRL side.

If Magpies want to keep their club at Campbelltown, then they can do so if they wish, but ultimately, they should rebrand as well.

The organisations running Balmain and Wests would still exist and would still run the WT.

The leagues clubs will all be run by Wests Ashfield as Wests Tigers.

Just to correct you:

Ashfield cannot legally change and have already made clear about (not) changing name to Wests Tigers Leagues Club.

Campbelltown Leagues Club have nothing to do with Wests Magpies or Wests Tigers (apart from Sponsoring the Junior League comp)

The only time Wests would "pay out" debt of Balmain would be any owing debts they had to WT at the time of 50% remainder buy out, not the other debts Balmain have (i.e. Debts owing to Rozelle Village Co. and the $12m odd in operating debts they have.

Ashfield are fully committed to financially supporting Wests Tigers.

Unless a very Wealthy backer decides to buy out the lot (including Wests share) then nothing will change. Doubtful considering there would be huge debts to purchase for very little return.

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[madunit]

I didn't say any of it would happen.

It was purely an idea. That much was evidently clear.

Of course it won't ever happen.

It'd be great if it could though.

 

[1_4_chicken_chips]

I distincly and very clearly stated the Balmain and Wests clubs as well as WT

The new WT board doesn't control those two clubs.

You said that all three need each other to survive. I assume that you are talking about Balmain, Wests and the Weststigers?

For the last couple of seasons, Weststigers are getting the money from Wests Ashfield, Balmain not so much. So I guess that we only need two to survive.

This is very much what needs to happen.

I'd even suggest something a bit more radical.

Wests Ashfield pay out Balmain's debt. In return they get the Balmain's venues and rebrand them as Wests Tigers. Wests Ashfield get a majority % of the profit (ie 65% and Balmain get the remaining profit). Balmain can still have their committee and organisation etc and have their members on the WT board.

Wests Ashfield change to Wests Tigers and be the official Leagues Club for the NRL side.

If Magpies want to keep their club at Campbelltown, then they can do so if they wish, but ultimately, they should rebrand as well.

The organisations running Balmain and Wests would still exist and would still run the WT.

The leagues clubs will all be run by Wests Ashfield as Wests Tigers.

Just to correct you:

Ashfield cannot legally change and have already made clear about (not) changing name to Wests Tigers Leagues Club.

Campbelltown Leagues Club have nothing to do with Wests Magpies or Wests Tigers (apart from Sponsoring the Junior League comp)

The only time Wests would "pay out" debt of Balmain would be any owing debts they had to WT at the time of 50% remainder buy out, not the other debts Balmain have (i.e. Debts owing to Rozelle Village Co. and the $12m odd in operating debts they have.

Ashfield are fully committed to financially supporting Wests Tigers.

Unless a very Wealthy backer decides to buy out the lot (including Wests share) then nothing will change. Doubtful considering there would be huge debts to purchase for very little return.

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Like you said a wealthy backer ,and remember when you are a billionaire .20 mil is a pee In the ocean .