Will you be attending the Save the Wests Tigers March?

Will you be attending the Save the Wests Tigers rally?

  • Yes, I care about the future of Wests Tigers

    Votes: 62 38.0%

  • No, it's just not possible for me to get there but I would if I could

    Votes: 96 58.9%

  • No, I support Wests Magpies not Wests Tigers

    Votes: 2 1.2%

  • No, I don't care about the future of the Wests Tigers

    Votes: 3 1.8%
  • Total voters
    163
BAGNF05 said:
Well said. But you’re not the first to hit them with facts, which they just ignore and continue to be disingenuous.
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It’s either have your say tomorrow and then get on with supporting Wests Tigers, or continue on this way and undermine decisions that have now been influenced by PVL and be part of the demise of Wests Tigers.
It is what it is, you can’t have an NRL team with no supporters, so if enough supporters allow this to continue being a major problem even after PVL’s intervention and follow through with threats to no longer support the NRL team, we will not have an NRL team for much longer.
 
old_man_tiger said:
I really don't know if I should engage, but I'll try one response and see!

Your argument that we don't know enough assumes that the anger is about the last 2 weeks only.

Here are 3 objective facts in the public domain relating to the period of HBG being majority shareholder which should be enough to cause concern for wests tigers fans, and for me and others significant frustration. You can check them, although I think you know arguing against them is taking the piss:

1. They have presided over the worst performing period of any club in modern rugby league. They have responded by recycling failed leaders through critical roles on the board, and signing off on the same with Sheens as coach who had reportedly sued the club. I won't list every controversial decision because done some are subjectively good or bad.

2. The club is the worst funded in the NRL, they are ultimately accountable for that. There are many solutions that owners could look at here other than tipping in their own cash.

3. Governance failures/poor commercial decisions. For example appointed major sponsor as chair.

On the above, if they've tried, they've failed. If they haven't tried or haven't thought about it, then Wests Tigers owners are satisfied with us being the poorest club in the NRL during a time where we have been the worst performing club. As a fan, you can choose to be angry about that or not - it's nonsensical, and yes it's trolling, to ignore it and keep pushing an argument like "but someone ask whyyyyyyyyy?" I don't need any information other than the 3 facts above.

Subjective points that I can't prove have an impact on football:

- Wests and Balmain crap
- constant in fighting leading to people fired HBG suing or ridiculing each other
- constant media leaks
- delays instigating and implementing independent review

Now we have the current situation, again it might be subjective as to whether anyone should care, but given the history I do, many WT fans do and even some neutrals do. I don't need you to agree with any of this, and will not go back and forth with you. I'm hoping you might stop making x% of the forum's posts basically all saying the same thing, because I like engaging with you and reading your posts on other topics and the ignore function is a useful but blunt instrument.

To all others, I can't make the march because of family commitments, good luck and go hard to all that do!
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I applaud this reply and well handled sir.
 
Vicious said:
If we are cutting costs so badly in relation to our NRL department funding, how did we end up with the highest paid CEO across the entire NRL ?
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Mate what are you talking about? Your looking to be argumentative for no reason. Show me where I, or the post i quoted mentioned anything about cutting funding? At least if your going to engage with someone make it on point, dont make stuff up
 
Tucker said:
Yes this is all true. My frustration is people are only just realising it. It’s been going on for a long time now.
Sure the rally will attract attention to it, but don’t kid yourselves that it will garner widespread support through the game.
Wests Tigers fans already have a reputation as being the biggest sooks and loudest complainers in the game.
Neutrals get sick of hearing perpetual victims bang on about their lot in life.
Maybe if we didn’t whinge so much about how the refs and NRL conspire to keep us down we’d have a more sympathethic public ear?
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1000s of people signed a petition years ago which was based off years of dissatisfaction with the board. The anger is based off years of incompetence that anyone beyond the casual fan has been well across. Can we stop trotting out this line that people are only just realising how useless HBG are? The Cassandra complex is tiring.
 
king_sirro said:
Mate what are you talking about? Your looking to be argumentative for no reason. Show me where I, or the post i quoted mentioned anything about cutting funding? At least if your going to engage with someone make it on point, dont make stuff up
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I’m not making anything up, I keep pointing out that PVL has spoken with everyone involved in this recent drama and has put in strict guidelines regarding how we move forward, but many of our supporters are still not happy.
I have also pointed out that if the rumours are true and BOF and 2 other independent board members have agreed to return, they would surely not be doing that if they knew they were going to constantly be outnumbered, outvoted and have no say.
In addition to this many people like to bring up lack of funding to our rugby league department.
I stated, we had an extremely highly paid CEO who I’m near certain was by far the highest paid across the entire NRL. Where does that money come from ? Doesn’t that eat into the rugby league department expenditure?
That being the case, I’m not sure how some people continue to try and say we have been skimping on costs relating to our rugby league department.
 
Vicious said:
I’m not making anything up, I keep pointing out that PVL has spoken with everyone involved in this recent drama and has put in strict guidelines regarding how we move forward, but many of our supporters are still not happy.
I have also pointed out that if the rumours are true and BOF and 2 other independent board members have agreed to return, they would surely not be doing that if they knew they were going to constantly be outnumbered, outvoted and have no say.
In addition to this many people like to bring up lack of funding to our rugby league department.
I stated, we had an extremely highly paid CEO who I’m near certain was by far the highest paid across the entire NRL. Where does that money come from ? Doesn’t that eat into the rugby league department expenditure?
That being the case, I’m not sure how some people continue to try and say we have been skimping on costs relating to our rugby league department.
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Again, what are you talking about? You quoted me on something different now your ranting about all the things you have said that i haven't bothered reading. Dont use a random post by me to drag me into someithing i havent said. You wanna carry on, grab someone who gives a shit about what you think, or at the very least, talk about what I have actually said.
 
Vicious said:
I’m not making anything up, I keep pointing out that PVL has spoken with everyone involved in this recent drama and has put in strict guidelines regarding how we move forward, but many of our supporters are still not happy.
I have also pointed out that if the rumours are true and BOF and 2 other independent board members have agreed to return, they would surely not be doing that if they knew they were going to constantly be outnumbered, outvoted and have no say.
In addition to this many people like to bring up lack of funding to our rugby league department.
I stated, we had an extremely highly paid CEO who I’m near certain was by far the highest paid across the entire NRL. Where does that money come from ? Doesn’t that eat into the rugby league department expenditure?
That being the case, I’m not sure how some people continue to try and say we have been skimping on costs relating to our rugby league department.
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How dumb are you? I said your making stuff up in relation to replying to my post with stuff that was irrelevant to what I wrote. The fact you then go back to talk about all the stuff you have said previously shows paranoia. I have no idea what you have said. I see certain posters and I just skip what they say, and your one of them
 
Vicious said:
It’s either have your say tomorrow and then get on with supporting Wests Tigers, or continue on this way and undermine decisions that have now been influenced by PVL and be part of the demise of Wests Tigers.
It is what it is, you can’t have an NRL team with no supporters, so if enough supporters allow this to continue being a major problem even after PVL’s intervention and follow through with threats to no longer support the NRL team, we will not have an NRL team for much longer.
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To hit you with your line, why don’t you just wait and see.

I fully trust PVL cares about fans, HE knows business.
 
Vicious said:
It’s either have your say tomorrow and then get on with supporting Wests Tigers, or continue on this way and undermine decisions that have now been influenced by PVL and be part of the demise of Wests Tigers.
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Don’t try and tell people how to fan mate …not fans of this long running joke of a club,,
 
Vicious said:
If we are cutting costs so badly in relation to our NRL department funding, how did we end up with the highest paid CEO across the entire NRL ?
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If Richo was only on $750 k a year as reported …Gus would be on way more for doing half the job… appreciate he might not have a CEO title ..but my point remains…
 
Sorry I can't be there today. Kudos to those who give a rat's and turn up. Give it to them and show how many care.
Also wondering if the poll about who care but can't go is to be passed on.
 
Vicious said:
If we are cutting costs so badly in relation to our NRL department funding, how did we end up with the highest paid CEO across the entire NRL ?
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As far as I'm aware, the only NRL CEO salary you can be sure of is the Broncos CEO as they're a publicly listed entity. He is on about 700 per the last financial report (likely more than that per this years performance).

The HB Group grant to the club per the last report was 1.7m, the NRL grant is 21m. So the NRL are effectively paying the CEOs salary.
 
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