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@Balmain Boy said:League couldn't have more than a minor following in SA in the next 50 years. The people are very proud and also quite reluctant to change in certain ways. Rugby is by far the national sport and anything which is seen as a threat to that will get a lot of hostility thrown at it by the public, politicians etc.
Football is easily number two, but as Rugby is a predominantly white sport, football is a predominantly black sport. Cricket is another predominantly white sport but isn't seen as a threat to rugby due to different seasons. Even then it has a smaller following than the other two. Most people stick to the sports which have been 'theirs' for generations. If league could get the interest of the black communities then it may have a chance, as many blacks still consider rugby to be a white person sport, league is new and doesn't have those connotations - so they could potentially embrace it more than they do rugby. BTW, I don't like to discuss race in this manner, but SA is one country where it is still very pertinent having spent a fair bit of time there over the years.
League while being a more entertaining sport to watch would struggle big time to get interest from a country who's fans love scrums, tough forwards and their pride in their rugby history. But it's worth putting some feelers out there.
As for the other countries mentioned, they will always be minority sports, well outside the top 4-5 in each country, but some have populations big enough for a decent sized semi-pro league.
@stryker said:Each to their own, IMO as a rep player Sonny can not tie Birds bootlaces. Bird has proven himself through origin and test matches, Sonny has shown nothing. You say it is easier to look good in a side going forward. Our back rowers play a vital role in that. Yours do not… In fact Sonny spends all game targeting the halves and centres. **He. Is a good player, but not good enough**.
@stryker said:Each to their own, IMO as a rep player Sonny can not tie Birds bootlaces. **Bird has proven himself through origin and test matches, Sonny has shown nothing.** You say it is easier to look good in a side going forward. Our back rowers play a vital role in that. Yours do not… In fact Sonny spends all game targeting the halves and centres. He. Is a good player, but not good enough.
@Fade To Black said:Yep Sonny has shown absolutely nothing in Origin, you are spot on, maybe because he isn't eligible do you think? :unamused: I'd say so.
You stated that in your opinion SBW wouldn't get a game in front of Scott or Tamou. Pfft. He has more ability than those two blokes put together. Different positions on the field notwithstanding.
@stryker said:Each to their own, IMO as a rep player Sonny can not tie Birds bootlaces. Bird has proven himself through origin and test matches, **Sonny has shown nothing.** You say it is easier to look good in a side going forward. Our back rowers play a vital role in that. Yours do not… In fact Sonny spends all game targeting the halves and centres. He. Is a good player, but not good enough.
@Fade To Black said:@stryker said:Each to their own, IMO as a rep player Sonny can not tie Birds bootlaces. Bird has proven himself through origin and test matches, **Sonny has shown nothing.** You say it is easier to look good in a side going forward. Our back rowers play a vital role in that. Yours do not… In fact Sonny spends all game targeting the halves and centres. He. Is a good player, but not good enough.
As stated: 2 NRL premierships, Super 15 title, won a union World Cup, International player of the year, Dally M 2nd rower of the year this year from memory. Yep he has shown absolutely nothing.
Coming from a Neville, your statement is a gem.
Not a big fan of SBW but he was fighting a lone hand in the WC final, little bit easier to look good when you have 5 other blokes helping you out up the guts.
@Fade To Black said:@stryker said:Each to their own, IMO as a rep player Sonny can not tie Birds bootlaces. Bird has proven himself through origin and test matches, **Sonny has shown nothing.** You say it is easier to look good in a side going forward. Our back rowers play a vital role in that. Yours do not… In fact Sonny spends all game targeting the halves and centres. He. Is a good player, but not good enough.
As stated: 2 NRL premierships, Super 15 title, won a union World Cup, International player of the year, Dally M 2nd rower of the year this year from memory. Yep he has shown absolutely nothing.
Coming from a Neville, your statement is a gem.
Not a big fan of SBW but he was fighting a lone hand in the WC final, little bit easier to look good when you have 5 other blokes helping you out up the guts.
@Guest said:Not a big fan of SBW but he was fighting a lone hand in the WC final, little bit easier to look good when you have 5 other blokes helping you out up the guts.
@Fade To Black said:As stated: 2 NRL premierships,
@Fade To Black said:Super 15 title,
@Fade To Black said:won a union World Cup,
@Fade To Black said:International player of the year,
@Fade To Black said:Dally M 2nd rower of the year this year from memory.
@Fade To Black said:Yep he has shown absolutely nothing.
@Fade To Black said:Coming from a Neville, your statement is a gem.
Not a big fan of SBW but he was fighting a lone hand in the WC final, little bit easier to look good when you have 5 other blokes helping you out up the guts.
@Black'n'White said:I agree with Stryker, Sonny just isnt a complete footballer, he is more a x-factor that feeds off a rolling attack. As shown in the WC final, when the chips are down, and its time to get gritty in the trenches, he has nothing to offer.
