happy_tiger
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Try telling Simon Dwyer ,Alex McKinnon ,John Farrugia (spelling ) that
Would you be prepared to pay extra for tickets /memberships
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Black_n_White
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tell them what? That I am sorry that they got injured, though millions of Australians also risk life and limb day in and day out across the country at work, yet hundreds of thousands of them that sub contract/contract can either play russian roulette by not protecting not only themselves but their loved ones in case the worst case scenario comes into play, otherwise they risk a small part of their finances which is also tax deductable to protect themselves just in case…
the only reason I wouldnt say it to their faces would be because I would be rubbing it in... if cold put on the spot for a deadly honest answer, I would warn them first that they wouldnt want to hear it, then put it out there if the pursued it.
We all risk leaving for work one day and never coming home. The minimum NRL salary of $80K is easily enough to give yourself at least some form of financial protection.
the only reason I wouldnt say it to their faces would be because I would be rubbing it in... if cold put on the spot for a deadly honest answer, I would warn them first that they wouldnt want to hear it, then put it out there if the pursued it.
We all risk leaving for work one day and never coming home. The minimum NRL salary of $80K is easily enough to give yourself at least some form of financial protection.
cqtiger
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@happy tiger said:
I'm sure they understood the risks and I'm pretty sure that they don't blame anyone for their situation either.
I would go a step further and ask their managers what advice they gave their clients in regards to risk, both physical and financial.
I applaud your humanity Happy but as you see, not many agree with your point of view.
Now lets look at it in a different light:
The NRL are only now starting to get serious with player injury. Every serious injury in the past has been ignored by the ruling body. OK there may have been suspensions to other players involved but the basics of risk management have always been ignored - because it was a "sport".
Now the NRL are changing the rules. In safety parlance that's a control, albeit an administrative control (low in the hierarchy). Under any state safety act that is an obligation of an employer or principal contractor.
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happy_tiger
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@Black'n'White said:
Yours and my income protection would be vastly different to an NRL player
They would pay at least 10 times more
I totally agree that my opinion won't be popular , but the NRL needs to be accountable for helping the players and every player should have it automatically included in their contracts whether they want it or not
If they won't they need to be paying for every damn cent of the players losses
NES !
National employment standards , everyone who works in Australia is covered by this and it entitles them to have workers compensation insurance.
All players are covered by it. It can not be written out of contracts .
When a worker is injured at work and is no longer able to perform his current work , the employer is required to provide re training , to prepare the worker for a new line of work . That is exactly what happened to Taniela Tuiaki .
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National employment standards , everyone who works in Australia is covered by this and it entitles them to have workers compensation insurance.
All players are covered by it. It can not be written out of contracts .
When a worker is injured at work and is no longer able to perform his current work , the employer is required to provide re training , to prepare the worker for a new line of work . That is exactly what happened to Taniela Tuiaki .
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MightyTiger
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The players are kidding themselves. It comes down to insuring themselves, like any other person does. It is totally irrelevant if you earn $1 or $1 million the responsibility comes down to the individual. Like any other normal citizen they pay for their own insurance for salary protection etc if they wish to do so. If they do not and have an issue then tough luck, you had the option to cover yourself and you decided not to for whatever reasons.
In saying that, the NRL and players association should be attempting to develop a deal with an insurance mob to provide cover, maybe incorporate this into a major sponsorship deal for the NRL in return for a discounted rate for insurance? It just seems that at the moment the NRL and players association have placed the issue in the to hard basket and the players are also attempting to pass the buck.
Both the NRL, players association and the players themselves need to come to some sort of agreement for insurance cover, but to say that the NRL need to pay for this cover is ridiculous, as I stated before the players need to realise there job is just like anyone else, therefor the majority of the onus is on them!
In saying that, the NRL and players association should be attempting to develop a deal with an insurance mob to provide cover, maybe incorporate this into a major sponsorship deal for the NRL in return for a discounted rate for insurance? It just seems that at the moment the NRL and players association have placed the issue in the to hard basket and the players are also attempting to pass the buck.
Both the NRL, players association and the players themselves need to come to some sort of agreement for insurance cover, but to say that the NRL need to pay for this cover is ridiculous, as I stated before the players need to realise there job is just like anyone else, therefor the majority of the onus is on them!
I agree with the majority and unfortunately it is a risk vs reward scenario. Yes, the risk of an injury either present or future is a real possibility, therefore the players need to absorb as much of the risk as possible.
There is all kinds of insurances available, although I do believe the NRL should have a fund to ASSIST players who suffer a long term injury, whether the assistance be retraining for another line of work or some payments.
Where this money comes from, I do not know, perhaps a % of each supporters gear purchased … ?
There is all kinds of insurances available, although I do believe the NRL should have a fund to ASSIST players who suffer a long term injury, whether the assistance be retraining for another line of work or some payments.
Where this money comes from, I do not know, perhaps a % of each supporters gear purchased … ?
Many pilots cannot receive income insurance due to volatile market. How would people feel about paying an extra 20 bucks a ticket to cover the a pilots wages if an airline was to go under or he lost his medical due to increased radiation at flight levels?
These scenario's can happen with a lot of industries, but unfortunately the answer is usually people will hold onto there money.
These scenario's can happen with a lot of industries, but unfortunately the answer is usually people will hold onto there money.
happy_tiger
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The problem is these kids think they are indestructible
The NRL should be protecting them from themselves
The clubs don't really care in most cases (which is understandable ,they couldn't remain competitive if they had to pay 400 k for 4 seasons for a player that wasn't playing )
As I said , maybe this isn't the best answer , but the RLPA ,NRL and the clubs need to find an answer and find it quickly
The NRL should be protecting them from themselves
The clubs don't really care in most cases (which is understandable ,they couldn't remain competitive if they had to pay 400 k for 4 seasons for a player that wasn't playing )
As I said , maybe this isn't the best answer , but the RLPA ,NRL and the clubs need to find an answer and find it quickly
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