WOULD YOU VACCINATE TO BE ABLE TO WATCH SPORTS

[colinbh]

I see some people are struggling with the maths, so here we go. Let's do the US, simply because I haven't done them for a while.

US Population is 333,143,413 so a bit more than 333 million.
US Deaths due to Covid19 is 631,299 so over 631 thousand.

333,142,413 / 631,299 is 527.7 so lets say 528

So for every 528 people in the US a person has died of Covid19. 1 in 528.

I agree with your maths but the elderly deaths heavily impact the overall rate being a significant % of the deaths whilst a low % of the population

Assuming (I don’t know these rates, they are guesstimates) they are 80% of the deaths but 20% of the population it comes down to around 1 death in 2,100 excluding the elderly

Elderly rate would be high but so would their rate of death in general

I’m not disagreeing with you, just trying to illustrate it moves around a lot by segment

Australia in total is around 1 death in 25,000 in total and would come down to 1 in 100,000 using the same theoretical exclusion of the elderly

It's only 1 in 25,000 in Australia because we are an Island and we have built a wall to keep the world and the virus out. That wall has been breached by the Delta strain and we can no longer rely on the wall. If the virus gets hold here we will have similar number to the US unless we vaccinate.

In regards to the elderly, while this may have been the case early on, the majority of the elderly have now been vaccinated and the virus profile has shifted to those that remain unvaccinated. ie the lower age groups.

Regardless of how you slice and dice it, that does not change the over all numbers and the fact remains that so far in the US 1 in 528 people have died of Covid19 during the Pandemic. That is what we are looking at here if the Delta strain takes hold and we remain unvaccinated.

Mike your facts in this post and previous posts are indisputable, and also quite alarming, the mind boggles as to how some can write them off Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon style.
I suppose the herd mentality will sort them out

Would that be the Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon that ordered the vaccines in the first place?

And would the vaccines of which you speak be the ones that the looney left said where no good because Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon initiated them?

From the WHO "99% of world wide cases are mild"

But feel free to waffle on. After all we still have free speech in this country don^t we?

 

[mike]

I see some people are struggling with the maths, so here we go. Let's do the US, simply because I haven't done them for a while.

US Population is 333,143,413 so a bit more than 333 million.
US Deaths due to Covid19 is 631,299 so over 631 thousand.

333,142,413 / 631,299 is 527.7 so lets say 528

So for every 528 people in the US a person has died of Covid19. 1 in 528.

I agree with your maths but the elderly deaths heavily impact the overall rate being a significant % of the deaths whilst a low % of the population

Assuming (I don’t know these rates, they are guesstimates) they are 80% of the deaths but 20% of the population it comes down to around 1 death in 2,100 excluding the elderly

Elderly rate would be high but so would their rate of death in general

I’m not disagreeing with you, just trying to illustrate it moves around a lot by segment

Australia in total is around 1 death in 25,000 in total and would come down to 1 in 100,000 using the same theoretical exclusion of the elderly

It's only 1 in 25,000 in Australia because we are an Island and we have built a wall to keep the world and the virus out. That wall has been breached by the Delta strain and we can no longer rely on the wall. If the virus gets hold here we will have similar number to the US unless we vaccinate.

In regards to the elderly, while this may have been the case early on, the majority of the elderly have now been vaccinated and the virus profile has shifted to those that remain unvaccinated. ie the lower age groups.

Regardless of how you slice and dice it, that does not change the over all numbers and the fact remains that so far in the US 1 in 528 people have died of Covid19 during the Pandemic. That is what we are looking at here if the Delta strain takes hold and we remain unvaccinated.

Mike your facts in this post and previous posts are indisputable, and also quite alarming, the mind boggles as to how some can write them off Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon style.
I suppose the herd mentality will sort them out

Would that be the Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon that ordered the vaccines in the first place?

And would the vaccines of which you speak be the ones that the looney left said where no good because Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon initiated them?

From the WHO "99% of world wide cases are mild"

But feel free to waffle on. After all we still have free speech in this country don^t we?

So are you happy that 1 in 528 people in the US have died of Covid19?

 

[jadtiger]

And would the vaccines of which you speak be the ones that the looney left said where no good because Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon initiated them?

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon did NOT initiate vaccine production and the left of politics has not criticised vaccine production,it is the right wing morons who have and are still doing that.
As usual you have zero idea

 

[earl]

is the right wing morons who have and are still doing that.

That group lies and lies and lies and lies. It's not all right wing people. It's the loony tunes right.

 

[jadtiger]

is the right wing morons who have and are still doing that.

That group lies and lies and lies and lies. It's not all right wing people. It's the loony tunes right.

I completely agree,i know and have good friends who are from the right wing of politics.Extremists on both sides of politics are bad news for the majority of people

 

[supercoach]

My 23 year old daughter had her first AZ shot yesterday. She, and a lot of her friends, have simply decided to be done with it and get the vaccination they can.

None of them are doing it to watch sport, they just want to be part of the solution. I'm quite proud of them.

What a champion

 

[pawsandclaws1]

It's been suggested that to attend mass gathering events such as Sport ,Concerts ,Restaurants etc proof of vaccination will be required.Would you get vaccinated to watch Wests Tigers

Not everyone has had the same opportunity as others to access vaccines. Until the entire population is vaccinated and able to chose the vaccine of their choice, this is a non starter.

 

[cochise]

It's been suggested that to attend mass gathering events such as Sport ,Concerts ,Restaurants etc proof of vaccination will be required.Would you get vaccinated to watch Wests Tigers

Not everyone has had the same opportunity as others to access vaccines. Until the entire population is vaccinated and able to chose the vaccine of their choice, this is a non starter.

Once vaccination is open to everyone then I expect these sort of restrictions will come in.

 

[Krammy]

My 23 year old daughter had her first AZ shot yesterday. She, and a lot of her friends, have simply decided to be done with it and get the vaccination they can.

None of them are doing it to watch sport, they just want to be part of the solution. I'm quite proud of them.

My 26 year old daughter did the same. She said to me, 'Dad there's more chance that I will get a blood clot from being on the pill.' I obviously had no idea on that front, but again she wants to be part of the solution.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

It's been suggested that to attend mass gathering events such as Sport ,Concerts ,Restaurants etc proof of vaccination will be required.Would you get vaccinated to watch Wests Tigers

Not everyone has had the same opportunity as others to access vaccines. Until the entire population is vaccinated and able to chose the vaccine of their choice, this is a non starter.

Once vaccination is open to everyone then I expect these sort of restrictions will come in.

The restrictions have started already SPC have announced that all their staff have to be vaccinated and any visitors to their plant have to be vaccinated
Also Laundy Hotels have announced they expect all their staff will be vaccinated

 

[cochise]

It's been suggested that to attend mass gathering events such as Sport ,Concerts ,Restaurants etc proof of vaccination will be required.Would you get vaccinated to watch Wests Tigers

Not everyone has had the same opportunity as others to access vaccines. Until the entire population is vaccinated and able to chose the vaccine of their choice, this is a non starter.

Once vaccination is open to everyone then I expect these sort of restrictions will come in.

The restrictions have started already SPC have announced that all their staff have to be vaccinated and any visitors to their plant have to be vaccinated
Also Laundy Hotels have announced they expect all their staff will be vaccinated

The restrictions haven't started already though, workers have until November to get vaccinated.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

It's been suggested that to attend mass gathering events such as Sport ,Concerts ,Restaurants etc proof of vaccination will be required.Would you get vaccinated to watch Wests Tigers

Not everyone has had the same opportunity as others to access vaccines. Until the entire population is vaccinated and able to chose the vaccine of their choice, this is a non starter.

Once vaccination is open to everyone then I expect these sort of restrictions will come in.

The restrictions have started already SPC have announced that all their staff have to be vaccinated and any visitors to their plant have to be vaccinated
Also Laundy Hotels have announced they expect all their staff will be vaccinated

The restrictions haven't started already though, workers have until November to get vaccinated.

It will be interesting what stance the NRL take with vaccinations with the amount of interstate ,NZ and international fixtures all players officials referees will no doubt need to be vaccinated for the game to continue next year

 

[cochise]

It's been suggested that to attend mass gathering events such as Sport ,Concerts ,Restaurants etc proof of vaccination will be required.Would you get vaccinated to watch Wests Tigers

Not everyone has had the same opportunity as others to access vaccines. Until the entire population is vaccinated and able to chose the vaccine of their choice, this is a non starter.

Once vaccination is open to everyone then I expect these sort of restrictions will come in.

The restrictions have started already SPC have announced that all their staff have to be vaccinated and any visitors to their plant have to be vaccinated
Also Laundy Hotels have announced they expect all their staff will be vaccinated

The restrictions haven't started already though, workers have until November to get vaccinated.

It will be interesting what stance the NRL take with vaccinations with the amount of interstate ,NZ and international fixtures all players officials referees will no doubt need to be vaccinated for the game to continue next year

I would think there will be an expectation that players are vaccinated, this is a bit of an issue in the NFL at the moment.

 

[supercoach]

A mate of mine runs a business on the central coast, he employs around 100 people. He has offered everyone 200 bucks to get the jab because he said if he gets closed down because of a positive COVID case it will cost him a squillion. Anyway he has had 10 reject his offer.

He has also been told by the local member that a bill is being drafted that will give employers the right to hire and fire based on people’s vax status.

 

[jadtiger]

He has also been told by the local member that a bill is being drafted that will give employers the right to hire and fire based on people’s vax status.

I have no problem with that as long as people who are not allowed to have a vaccination due to medical reasons are given an exemption

 

[Tiger5150]

It's been suggested that to attend mass gathering events such as Sport ,Concerts ,Restaurants etc proof of vaccination will be required.Would you get vaccinated to watch Wests Tigers

Not everyone has had the same opportunity as others to access vaccines. Until the entire population is vaccinated and able to chose the vaccine of their choice, this is a non starter.

Once vaccination is open to everyone then I expect these sort of restrictions will come in.

It's been suggested that to attend mass gathering events such as Sport ,Concerts ,Restaurants etc proof of vaccination will be required.Would you get vaccinated to watch Wests Tigers

Not everyone has had the same opportunity as others to access vaccines. Until the entire population is vaccinated and able to chose the vaccine of their choice, this is a non starter.

Once vaccination is open to everyone then I expect these sort of restrictions will come in.

Not having a crack…..but why? Why actual restrictions/legislation/control? Why not when vaccination numbers are high enough, life goes on and the unvaccinated take their chances?

 

[cochise]

It's been suggested that to attend mass gathering events such as Sport ,Concerts ,Restaurants etc proof of vaccination will be required.Would you get vaccinated to watch Wests Tigers

Not everyone has had the same opportunity as others to access vaccines. Until the entire population is vaccinated and able to chose the vaccine of their choice, this is a non starter.

Once vaccination is open to everyone then I expect these sort of restrictions will come in.

It's been suggested that to attend mass gathering events such as Sport ,Concerts ,Restaurants etc proof of vaccination will be required.Would you get vaccinated to watch Wests Tigers

Not everyone has had the same opportunity as others to access vaccines. Until the entire population is vaccinated and able to chose the vaccine of their choice, this is a non starter.

Once vaccination is open to everyone then I expect these sort of restrictions will come in.

Not having a crack…..but why? Why actual restrictions/legislation/control? Why not when vaccination numbers are high enough, life goes on and the unvaccinated take their chances?

Because people who aren't vaccinated aren't only putting themselves at risk.

 

[Tiger5150]

A mate of mine runs a business on the central coast, he employs around 100 people. He has offered everyone 200 bucks to get the jab because he said if he gets closed down because of a positive COVID case it will cost him a squillion. Anyway he has had 10 reject his offer.

He has also been told by the local member that a bill is being drafted that will give employers the right to hire and fire based on people’s vax status.

I’m getting vaxxed but if that happens I though it is disgraceful, dangerous and unnecessary.

I genuinely don’t understand the push. People make their decision. Get vaxxed or not. If not you are on your own. Who are these laws supposed to protect?

 

[cochise]

A mate of mine runs a business on the central coast, he employs around 100 people. He has offered everyone 200 bucks to get the jab because he said if he gets closed down because of a positive COVID case it will cost him a squillion. Anyway he has had 10 reject his offer.

He has also been told by the local member that a bill is being drafted that will give employers the right to hire and fire based on people’s vax status.

I’m getting vaxxed but if that happens I though it is disgraceful, dangerous and unnecessary.

I genuinely don’t understand the push. People make their decision. Get vaxxed or not. If not you are on your own. Who are these laws supposed to protect?

There are people who can not be vaccinated through no fault of their own.

 

[swag_tiger]

My work is asking everyone to get vaccinated.