WT basket case

Foxtel 502 are shoeing a 2016 match between Broncos and Wests tigers at 8pm tonight. Enjoy it and see what is possible.
 
Over the past few months (let's be honest, more like years) there seems to be an increase in hyperbole, rhetoric, unconscious bias and cognitive distortions particularly when it comes to the discourse of our club.

Intentionally or unintentionally, words like “Always” and “Never” contribute to all-or-nothing, black and white thinking (and gold; black, white and gold thinking…). This binary type of thinking is harmful because it interprets situations in inaccurate extremes and is often used to make the individual asserting them feel like an opinion is stronger than it is and thus impervious to critique.
Eg. The club or a player’s performance was totally good or totally bad. If it’s not perfect, then it’s a failure. This binary way of thinking does not account for shades of grey and can be responsible for a great deal of negative evaluations of oneself and others. “Always” and “Never” statements are also very frequently used by individuals who suffer from personality disorders, because they fit neatly into the split, black and white world of their thinking. They are most often used in an accusatory, argumentative, or self-pitying way.

Basically, it's not necessary for someone else to be wrong for you to be right. We could all benefit from a little critical thinking and cognitive restructuring. By analysing and identifying the automatic thoughts that act as our own running commentary about our experiences we can become more critical about these thoughts and to consider alternative perspectives.

Might even add a few years to your life. Which means more time to see the Wests Tigers win another premiership…
 
@pascoes_barber said in [WT basket case](/post/1499859) said:
Clearly it's because of the downvote function.

I blame the 15 other clubs ...surely they should be forced to rest their best 10 players when they play the WT's ......
 
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [WT basket case](/post/1499630) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1499604) said:
I blame the fans


The fans have nothing to do with this crap.
If anything we are the loyal ones that have been suffering.
WT Board are all to blame

Mate due to my moral obligation i must now make this confession, For the past ten years that's (1 decade) my **TV** has been a victim of psychological and other forms of abuse, the abuse happened mostly on weekends but only during **WT** **games**, the various types of abuse that my TV had received would be counted as crime under the law.

I confess my TV has had a tortuous time with me, the abusive behaviour included,

verbal and psychological abuse
harassment, and physical threats.

Some examples are,
continual swearing and screaming, shouting, name-calling, and shaking and slapping it and , spitting, and threating to punch and kick it.

And, Mate you name it, my tv is known as a smart tv, if it was just a little smarter, i would by now have been arrested and remanded in custody by a court order.
 
The powers that be decided to let the players run the show from pretty much 2005 onwards. That's been our problem. Judging by the spineless displays on numerous occasions this year and the small glimpse into our drought of genuine leaders on the documentary it looks like that is still the case. Maguire is obviously trying to strangle back control, hopefully he is able to hang onto his job long enough to achieve it and then we will see some positive results within the club.
 
@finesttigers said in [WT basket case](/post/1500702) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [WT basket case](/post/1499630) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1499604) said:
I blame the fans


The fans have nothing to do with this crap.
If anything we are the loyal ones that have been suffering.
WT Board are all to blame

Mate due to my moral obligation i must now make this confession, For the past ten years that's (1 decade) my **TV** has been a victim of psychological and other forms of abuse, the abuse happened mostly on weekends but only during **WT** **games**, the various types of abuse that my TV had received would be counted as crime under the law.

I confess my TV has had a tortuous time with me, the abusive behaviour included,

verbal and psychological abuse
harassment, and physical threats.

Some examples are,
continual swearing and screaming, shouting, name-calling, and shaking and slapping it and , spitting, and threating to punch and kick it.

And, Mate you name it, my tv is known as a smart tv, if it was just a little smarter, i would by now have been arrested and remanded in custody by a court order.

I could tell almost that exact story about my third leg.
 
@donk said in [WT basket case](/post/1500738) said:
@finesttigers said in [WT basket case](/post/1500702) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [WT basket case](/post/1499630) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1499604) said:
I blame the fans


The fans have nothing to do with this crap.
If anything we are the loyal ones that have been suffering.
WT Board are all to blame

Mate due to my moral obligation i must now make this confession, For the past ten years that's (1 decade) my **TV** has been a victim of psychological and other forms of abuse, the abuse happened mostly on weekends but only during **WT** **games**, the various types of abuse that my TV had received would be counted as crime under the law.

I confess my TV has had a tortuous time with me, the abusive behaviour included,

verbal and psychological abuse
harassment, and physical threats.

Some examples are,
continual swearing and screaming, shouting, name-calling, and shaking and slapping it and , spitting, and threating to punch and kick it.

And, Mate you name it, my tv is known as a smart tv, if it was just a little smarter, i would by now have been arrested and remanded in custody by a court order.

I could tell almost that exact story about my third leg.



@donk said in [WT basket case](/post/1500738) said:
@finesttigers said in [WT basket case](/post/1500702) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [WT basket case](/post/1499630) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1499604) said:
I blame the fans


The fans have nothing to do with this crap.
If anything we are the loyal ones that have been suffering.
WT Board are all to blame

Mate due to my moral obligation i must now make this confession, For the past ten years that's (1 decade) my **TV** has been a victim of psychological and other forms of abuse, the abuse happened mostly on weekends but only during **WT** **games**, the various types of abuse that my TV had received would be counted as crime under the law.

I confess my TV has had a tortuous time with me, the abusive behaviour included,

verbal and psychological abuse
harassment, and physical threats.

Some examples are,
continual swearing and screaming, shouting, name-calling, and shaking and slapping it and , spitting, and threating to punch and kick it.

And, Mate you name it, my tv is known as a smart tv, if it was just a little smarter, i would by now have been arrested and remanded in custody by a court order.

I could tell almost that exact story about my third leg.

Only during tigers games? Didn’t think they’d be anything worth getting up for.
 
@donk said in [WT basket case](/post/1500738) said:
@finesttigers said in [WT basket case](/post/1500702) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [WT basket case](/post/1499630) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1499604) said:
I blame the fans


The fans have nothing to do with this crap.
If anything we are the loyal ones that have been suffering.
WT Board are all to blame

Mate due to my moral obligation i must now make this confession, For the past ten years that's (1 decade) my **TV** has been a victim of psychological and other forms of abuse, the abuse happened mostly on weekends but only during **WT** **games**, the various types of abuse that my TV had received would be counted as crime under the law.

I confess my TV has had a tortuous time with me, the abusive behaviour included,

verbal and psychological abuse
harassment, and physical threats.

Some examples are,
continual swearing and screaming, shouting, name-calling, and shaking and slapping it and , spitting, and threating to punch and kick it.

And, Mate you name it, my tv is known as a smart tv, if it was just a little smarter, i would by now have been arrested and remanded in custody by a court order.

I could tell almost that exact story about my third leg.



@donk said in [WT basket case](/post/1500738) said:
@finesttigers said in [WT basket case](/post/1500702) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [WT basket case](/post/1499630) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1499604) said:
I blame the fans


The fans have nothing to do with this crap.
If anything we are the loyal ones that have been suffering.
WT Board are all to blame

Mate due to my moral obligation i must now make this confession, For the past ten years that's (1 decade) my **TV** has been a victim of psychological and other forms of abuse, the abuse happened mostly on weekends but only during **WT** **games**, the various types of abuse that my TV had received would be counted as crime under the law.

I confess my TV has had a tortuous time with me, the abusive behaviour included,

verbal and psychological abuse
harassment, and physical threats.

Some examples are,
continual swearing and screaming, shouting, name-calling, and shaking and slapping it and , spitting, and threating to punch and kick it.

And, Mate you name it, my tv is known as a smart tv, if it was just a little smarter, i would by now have been arrested and remanded in custody by a court order.

I could tell almost that exact story about my third leg.

Only during tigers games? Didn’t think they’d be anything worth getting up for.
 
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1500747) said:
@donk said in [WT basket case](/post/1500738) said:
@finesttigers said in [WT basket case](/post/1500702) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [WT basket case](/post/1499630) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1499604) said:
I blame the fans


The fans have nothing to do with this crap.
If anything we are the loyal ones that have been suffering.
WT Board are all to blame

Mate due to my moral obligation i must now make this confession, For the past ten years that's (1 decade) my **TV** has been a victim of psychological and other forms of abuse, the abuse happened mostly on weekends but only during **WT** **games**, the various types of abuse that my TV had received would be counted as crime under the law.

I confess my TV has had a tortuous time with me, the abusive behaviour included,

verbal and psychological abuse
harassment, and physical threats.

Some examples are,
continual swearing and screaming, shouting, name-calling, and shaking and slapping it and , spitting, and threating to punch and kick it.

And, Mate you name it, my tv is known as a smart tv, if it was just a little smarter, i would by now have been arrested and remanded in custody by a court order.

I could tell almost that exact story about my third leg.



@donk said in [WT basket case](/post/1500738) said:
@finesttigers said in [WT basket case](/post/1500702) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [WT basket case](/post/1499630) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1499604) said:
I blame the fans


The fans have nothing to do with this crap.
If anything we are the loyal ones that have been suffering.
WT Board are all to blame

Mate due to my moral obligation i must now make this confession, For the past ten years that's (1 decade) my **TV** has been a victim of psychological and other forms of abuse, the abuse happened mostly on weekends but only during **WT** **games**, the various types of abuse that my TV had received would be counted as crime under the law.

I confess my TV has had a tortuous time with me, the abusive behaviour included,

verbal and psychological abuse
harassment, and physical threats.

Some examples are,
continual swearing and screaming, shouting, name-calling, and shaking and slapping it and , spitting, and threating to punch and kick it.

And, Mate you name it, my tv is known as a smart tv, if it was just a little smarter, i would by now have been arrested and remanded in custody by a court order.

I could tell almost that exact story about my third leg.

Only during tigers games? Didn’t think they’d be anything worth getting up for.

There’s always hope as they enter the field
 
Now with 17 clubs in the comp, 9 are run by professionals. 8 are run by people who polished the boots and came up through the ranks and now won’t accept anything that changes things that may impact their clubs (positive or negative). Where does the Wests Tigers sit?
 
@mike said in [WT basket case](/post/1500753) said:
Now with 17 clubs in the comp, 9 are run by professionals. 8 are run by people who polished the boots and came up through the ranks and now won’t accept anything that changes how things that may impact their clubs (positive or negative). Where does the Wests Tigers sit?

Towards the bottom
 
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1500750) said:
@donk said in [WT basket case](/post/1500738) said:
@finesttigers said in [WT basket case](/post/1500702) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [WT basket case](/post/1499630) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1499604) said:
I blame the fans


The fans have nothing to do with this crap.
If anything we are the loyal ones that have been suffering.
WT Board are all to blame

Mate due to my moral obligation i must now make this confession, For the past ten years that's (1 decade) my **TV** has been a victim of psychological and other forms of abuse, the abuse happened mostly on weekends but only during **WT** **games**, the various types of abuse that my TV had received would be counted as crime under the law.

I confess my TV has had a tortuous time with me, the abusive behaviour included,

verbal and psychological abuse
harassment, and physical threats.

Some examples are,
continual swearing and screaming, shouting, name-calling, and shaking and slapping it and , spitting, and threating to punch and kick it.

And, Mate you name it, my tv is known as a smart tv, if it was just a little smarter, i would by now have been arrested and remanded in custody by a court order.

I could tell almost that exact story about my third leg.



@donk said in [WT basket case](/post/1500738) said:
@finesttigers said in [WT basket case](/post/1500702) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [WT basket case](/post/1499630) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [WT basket case](/post/1499604) said:
I blame the fans


The fans have nothing to do with this crap.
If anything we are the loyal ones that have been suffering.
WT Board are all to blame

Mate due to my moral obligation i must now make this confession, For the past ten years that's (1 decade) my **TV** has been a victim of psychological and other forms of abuse, the abuse happened mostly on weekends but only during **WT** **games**, the various types of abuse that my TV had received would be counted as crime under the law.

I confess my TV has had a tortuous time with me, the abusive behaviour included,

verbal and psychological abuse
harassment, and physical threats.

Some examples are,
continual swearing and screaming, shouting, name-calling, and shaking and slapping it and , spitting, and threating to punch and kick it.

And, Mate you name it, my tv is known as a smart tv, if it was just a little smarter, i would by now have been arrested and remanded in custody by a court order.

I could tell almost that exact story about my third leg.

Only during tigers games? Didn’t think they’d be anything worth getting up for.

WT are the sporting equivalent of brewer's droop.
 
@newtown said in [WT basket case](/post/1499758) said:
At least Wests tigers won a premiership in 2005. Teams like Parramatta haven't won a premiership for something like 40 years. All teams go though their highs and lows. Don't give up.

I don’t know what I would be like if it wasn’t for the 2005 premiership. The heartbreak of 1989 stuck with me for years. I’m not greedy and I will take 05 till I die. I just feel sorry for my kids who always blame me for supporting a “loser” team.
 
For me it’s not so much about winning a competition, although it would be nice. It’s more about being “competitive”.
Sitting there before a game wondering if they are gonna turn up this week. If they get thrashed, am I gonna be embarrassed ,what excuse do I give my mates this time do I give the excuse we are in a rebuilding stage .
I expect my team to have Pride and have a go.
To play for the Club and the Jersey, The coach and the players beside them ,the fans,themselves.
“Just be competitive.”
 
@snapper said in [WT basket case](/post/1500989) said:
For me it’s not so much about winning a competition, although it would be nice. It’s more about being “competitive”.
Sitting there before a game wondering if they are gonna turn up this week. If they get thrashed, am I gonna be embarrassed ,what excuse do I give my mates this time do I give the excuse we are in a rebuilding stage .
I expect my team to have Pride and have a go.
To play for the Club and the Jersey, The coach and the players beside them ,the fans,themselves.
“Just be competitive.”

Very well said. Couldn’t agree more with you.
 
@tigerpower said in [WT basket case](/post/1500850) said:
@newtown said in [WT basket case](/post/1499758) said:
At least Wests tigers won a premiership in 2005. Teams like Parramatta haven't won a premiership for something like 40 years. All teams go though their highs and lows. Don't give up.

I don’t know what I would be like if it wasn’t for the 2005 premiership. The heartbreak of 1989 stuck with me for years. I’m not greedy and I will take 05 till I die. I just feel sorry for my kids who always blame me for supporting a “loser” team.

Same.

05 is the thing we have that stops us being the laughing stock that most think we are. A number of clubs haven't won a GF since 05 or well before.
 
@the_patriot said in [WT basket case](/post/1500999) said:
@tigerpower said in [WT basket case](/post/1500850) said:
@newtown said in [WT basket case](/post/1499758) said:
At least Wests tigers won a premiership in 2005. Teams like Parramatta haven't won a premiership for something like 40 years. All teams go though their highs and lows. Don't give up.

I don’t know what I would be like if it wasn’t for the 2005 premiership. The heartbreak of 1989 stuck with me for years. I’m not greedy and I will take 05 till I die. I just feel sorry for my kids who always blame me for supporting a “loser” team.

Same.

05 is the thing we have that stops us being the laughing stock that most think we are. A number of clubs haven't won a GF since 05 or well before.

It's already 15 (even 16 now) years ago though. I agree with you both, having 2005 in our cap has helped our reputation a lot during the 2010s, but it's getting on a bit now. For some context, my 20 yr son was only 4 at the time.

Hopefully 'success' is just around the corner, and by 'success' I mean being a competitive team as @Snapper described so well just before.
 
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