WT NSW cup team for 2013

we've always had 2 buddy…
We had Simmons and Gentle for a good long time.
At the moment we have Georgallis and Jones.
I assume Paul Fletcher will be the coach of reserve grade as he is now.
He's a bloody good coach!!
 
@batboy said:
we've always had 2 buddy…
We had Simmons and Gentle for a good long time.
At the moment we have Georgallis and Jones.
I assume Paul Fletcher will be the coach of reserve grade as he is now.
He's a bloody good coach!!

Georgallis has proven to be a very good first grade coach champ.Rather a master of men than king of the kids.Georgallis is the better option.Hopefully peoples personal biases wont stop them seeing this.
 
Georgallis is a GREAT option, And i love Georgie…
But At the moment, he's the assistant coach of an NRL side...
I can't imagine he would want to go back to coaching ressies in the NSW cup???
 
@tigermaniac said:
@willow said:
Let em cry Yoss. Wests were never going to remain competitive if things continued down the same path as this year. It's actually a win for Wests as they will have more of a say in the JV now. The simple and narrow-minded fail to see this right now, but in time, their vision will clear.

Love your work Willow, Let them cry. It's attitude like this that upset people. Now what was it that you gained from trying to be honest. Do you really think that these people that share a beer at Ashfield or Campbelltown leagues have cared about seeing Balmain Leagues get up and running, they wouldn't shed a tear. At the moment Balmain have Harry, for how long, will they sell themselves out and move to Campbelltown, on the other hand, **the Magpies have 2 leagues clubs and there not going anywhere.** Now this is where the tissues come out. Who do you think has the power? Definitely sooks like us on this forum.
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It's not 1985… Leagues club strength is of rapidly declining importance to the sustainability of NRL teams. Most of the top 8 (Dogs would be a notable exception) hardly have league's clubs pumping cash into their teams. On the other hand league's club strength is a big deal in the Bundy Cup...
 
@Yossarian said:
@tigermaniac said:
@willow said:
Let em cry Yoss. Wests were never going to remain competitive if things continued down the same path as this year. It's actually a win for Wests as they will have more of a say in the JV now. The simple and narrow-minded fail to see this right now, but in time, their vision will clear.

Love your work Willow, Let them cry. It's attitude like this that upset people. Now what was it that you gained from trying to be honest. Do you really think that these people that share a beer at Ashfield or Campbelltown leagues have cared about seeing Balmain Leagues get up and running, they wouldn't shed a tear. At the moment Balmain have Harry, for how long, will they sell themselves out and move to Campbelltown, on the other hand, **the Magpies have 2 leagues clubs and there not going anywhere.** Now this is where the tissues come out. Who do you think has the power? Definitely sooks like us on this forum.
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It's not 1985… Leagues club strength is of rapidly declining importance to the sustainability of NRL teams. Most of the top 8 (Dogs would be a notable exception) hardly have league's clubs pumping cash into their teams. On the other hand league's club strength is a big deal in the Bundy Cup...

Just noticing the "timing" of this announcement re one nsw cup.Would we of had this "decision" if the broke Balmain tigers club didnt fail in its recent development proposal.
 
@Yossarian said:
It's not 1985… Leagues club strength is of rapidly declining importance to the sustainability of NRL teams. Most of the top 8 (Dogs would be a notable exception) hardly have league's clubs pumping cash into their teams. On the other hand league's club strength is a big deal in the Bundy Cup...

I have to disagree with you. Only 2 of the 16 NRL clubs are profitable (Souths and Brisbane). The other 14 clubs still require a leagues club or a private benefactor to cover losses (or both).
 
Gents… Its Ashfield that made the call. They will be main financial backer for the NSW cup team.

Balmain are in financial ruin and BRET relied on Ryde-Eastwood and help from WT to operate.

The streamlining of NSW cup team has both financial and development benefits.

Wests Group (Ashfield/Campbelltown/WSDRLFC) will be the the influential and financially stronger arm of the JV from 2013 onwards.

Balmain FC will affectively operate matts abd sg ball under the wing of WT operations.

So as other posters have pointed out, wests group will re stamp is presence in the JV as a controlling influence.
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@wtfl1981 said:
Gents… Its Ashfield that made the call. They will be main financial backer for the NSW cup team.

Balmain are in financial ruin and BRET relied on Ryde-Eastwood and help from WT to operate.

The streamlining of NSW cup team has both financial and development benefits.

Wests Group (Ashfield/Campbelltown/WSDRLFC) will be the the influential and financially stronger arm of the JV from 2013 onwards.

Balmain FC will affectively operate matts abd sg ball under the wing of WT operations.

So as other posters have pointed out, wests group will re stamp is presence in the JV as a controlling influence.
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How do you know this? I find it hard to believe the white paper proposals & Wests groups proposed amendments got unanimous support from the Wests Tigers board.

Must be more to this.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Yossarian said:
It's not 1985… Leagues club strength is of rapidly declining importance to the sustainability of NRL teams. Most of the top 8 (Dogs would be a notable exception) hardly have league's clubs pumping cash into their teams. On the other hand league's club strength is a big deal in the Bundy Cup...

I have to disagree with you. Only 2 of the 16 NRL clubs are profitable (Souths and Brisbane). The other 14 clubs still require a leagues club or a private benefactor to cover losses (or both).

Exactly. If Wests Tigers are in such a great financial position they wouldn't have a problem paying out Sheens.
 
@Staks said:
@wtfl1981 said:
Gents… Its Ashfield that made the call. They will be main financial backer for the NSW cup team.

Balmain are in financial ruin and BRET relied on Ryde-Eastwood and help from WT to operate.

The streamlining of NSW cup team has both financial and development benefits.

Wests Group (Ashfield/Campbelltown/WSDRLFC) will be the the influential and financially stronger arm of the JV from 2013 onwards.

Balmain FC will affectively operate matts abd sg ball under the wing of WT operations.

So as other posters have pointed out, wests group will re stamp is presence in the JV as a controlling influence.
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How do you know this? I find it hard to believe the white paper proposals & Wests groups proposed amendments got unanimous support from the Wests Tigers board.

Must be more to this.

Cause ashfield and WSDRLFC share board members. Balmain FC have no choice in the matter. Campbelltown have one seat and want a WT nsw cup side. WSDRLFC still have a role in running sg ball and h matts and junior league. Everyone is a winner except for those who still want balmain and wests to stand alone at nsw cup level.

Ashfield (as a WT part owner) made the final call but it has upset magpie diehards as funding now goes to a WT nsw cup team not a magpies nsw cup team which is want all (bar magpies) have wanted since end of 2011

Magpies could still compete in bundy cup and take on overflow of WT nsw cup and WT nyc players and be run by WSRDLFC - but its too early to know if this will occur
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@Gary Bakerloo said:
Seems to me that Ashfield is backing the better horse and in the process, curtailing the role of Ryde-Eastwood.

And what percentage of the jv did ryde eastwood own again.As a former Balmain fan I must admit wests got shafted badly when ryde eastwood tigers somehow seemed more important than wests.
 
In the end I have always believed that the Wests Tigers State Cup side is what was required to move forward.

From this point it is about finding the proper alance of Wests Tigers branding whilst still paying rightfull homage to the two proud clubs that merged to bring us together. I would assume they will use the heritage jerseys being used by the Wests Tigers in each season.

Engagement in every community which Wests Tigers recognise as their own is the next step forward I hope to see
 
@Karma Tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
Seems to me that Ashfield is backing the better horse and in the process, curtailing the role of Ryde-Eastwood.

And what percentage of the jv did ryde eastwood own again.As a former Balmain fan I must admit wests got shafted badly when ryde eastwood tigers somehow seemed more important than wests.

They did but it was their own fault. Now the ducks are in a row finally wests can fix a few wrongs
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Interesting to see if they push for one supporter base now the changes have started.
Ive got my preference on where I want all WT teams to play, but any ground they choose to house all our home games will be a bonus for players, fans and sponsors. Please don't stop now, not everyone will be happy but you just have to accept what's best for the team.
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@Gary Bakerloo said:
Seems to me that Ashfield is backing the better horse and in the process, curtailing the role of Ryde-Eastwood.

Ryde-Eastwood become that of a sponsor not a naming partner.

Basically, Ashfield will be the most powerful (financially) part owner of WT.

Campbelltown contributes to magpies sg ball and h matts plus junior league comp. indirectly contributing to WT (via development)

Balmain FC - the other 50% owner is piggy backing off the resources of WT to operate their football operations.

Interesting fact is that one actual proposal was a nsw cup team to be named Ryde-Eastwood Magpies!!! Crazy.
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@wtfl1981 said:
@Staks said:
@wtfl1981 said:
Gents… Its Ashfield that made the call. They will be main financial backer for the NSW cup team.

Balmain are in financial ruin and BRET relied on Ryde-Eastwood and help from WT to operate.

The streamlining of NSW cup team has both financial and development benefits.

Wests Group (Ashfield/Campbelltown/WSDRLFC) will be the the influential and financially stronger arm of the JV from 2013 onwards.

Balmain FC will affectively operate matts abd sg ball under the wing of WT operations.

So as other posters have pointed out, wests group will re stamp is presence in the JV as a controlling influence.
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How do you know this? I find it hard to believe the white paper proposals & Wests groups proposed amendments got unanimous support from the Wests Tigers board.

Must be more to this.

Cause ashfield and WSDRLFC share board members. Balmain FC have no choice in the matter. Campbelltown have one seat and want a WT nsw cup side. WSDRLFC still have a role in running sg ball and h matts and junior league. Everyone is a winner except for those who still want balmain and wests to stand alone at nsw cup level.

Ashfield (as a WT part owner) made the final call but it has upset magpie diehards as funding now goes to a WT nsw cup team not a magpies nsw cup team which is want all (bar magpies) have wanted since end of 2011

Magpies could still compete in bundy cup and take on overflow of WT nsw cup and WT nyc players and be run by WSRDLFC - but its too early to know if this will occur
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What you mean Balmain have no choice in the matter? They are an equal joint venture partner who supply half the Wests Tigers board.

WSDRLFC are not currently running the Wests Matts & Ball teams.. Wests Tigers are. Is this going to change?

Not sure where you got your information from. I will wait for something more concrete before taking this as a done deal. I would say there is a lot more to it…
 
I mean Balmain FC board (have always been) and are supportive of one nsw cup team…. The recent announcement is that ashfield will support a single nsw cup team (a decision that balmain had no say in).

Part of the 'deal' is for WSDRLFC to regain running of sg ball and matts (take over from WT) and administer the wests junior league (in a bit of a shambles) - all this has evolved from a recent harmonious relationship within the wests group (bad blood in the past)

As mentioned, the magpie diehards are upset as the funding that ashfield has poured in magpies nsw cup (and first grade till 1999) will cease (will now be poured into wt and wt nsw cup team)

Its sad state for both original identities but the announcement has some positives..
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Can only be a good thing and it's great to see Wests get back control of their juniors in their area as well. Sharing the retro jerseys and locations for games is doable and is also cool…

Wests will also finally have more say in how things are run in general. How is that a bad thing?
 
Wearing different coloured jerseys every week?
Yeah , that brings them in alignment with the U/20's and first grade teams.
If they want to do it properly they should all wear the same gear.
My personal preference is to have a stand alone Balmain team (no Ryde Eastwood) and a stand alone Wests team.
But then again that's my personal preference for first grade too.
 

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