WT's 2016 Salary Cap

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Mccarry

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I have been ranting to myself that we can't possibly be over the 2016 cap of 6.8m. Yet after doing the spreadsheet it now seems more likely that we are actually pretty close (before Keith's departure and inflating some of the numbers below to allow for backended contracts).

My guesses at what players would have got when they signed contracts…based on where most were anticipated to be at by 2016...

**Players 2016**
AKAUOLA, Sitaleki 100
BROOKS, Luke 500
CHERRINGTON, Manaia 85
DRINKWATER, Josh 100
FARAH, Robbie (c) 900
FINE, Asipeli 85
GALLOWAY, Keith 400
GRAHAM, Dallas 85
HELETA, Watson 85
HOETER, Delouise 85
LAWRENCE, Chris 500
LIOLEVAVE, Lamar 85
LODGE, Matthew 150
MOSES, Mitchell 500
NAIQAMA, Kevin 150
NOFOALUMA, David 300
PENI, Chance 100
SEVE, Marion 85
SIMONA, Tim 300
SIRONEN, Curtis 300
SUE, Sauaso 250
TAUPAU, Martin 200
TEDESCO, James 450
WOODS, Aaron 700
**Total 6,495**

I am happy to update with any solid info on known amounts.
Farah, Lawrence and Galloway are probably 100K to 200K higher if they have backended contracts.
 
@TopTiger said:
Isn't the cap on our top 25 players, there are only 24 on the list.
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Yes 25\. The list is merely the list of contracted players for 2016\. Some could move to 2nd tier as well.
Ava and Dene are not on the list yet so I would expect them to come into the top 25.
 
I don't think there's much point in this exercise because:
* we've no idea what the players are being paid - even the media are guessing
* there are so many extra clauses, bonuses and what not that listing a single figure is almost useless.
* we're likely still paying bonuses from previous years, let alone the backloaded salaries
 
Just to add to ricksen's post, we have also been told by the people who have accurate figures sitting in front of them that 2016 is already spent.

No point really in getting your hopes up creating spreadsheets containing guesses and rumours to find some hidden cash. If you believe the powers that be, we are already watching 2016's team run around.
 
@stryker said:
Just to add to ricksen's post, we have also been told by the people who have accurate figures sitting in front of them that 2016 is already spent.

No point really in getting your hopes up creating spreadsheets containing guesses and rumours to find some hidden cash. If you believe the powers that be, we are already watching 2016's team run around.
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And boy don't they inspire you, and with a coach who is struggling big time, does not bode well for next year.
 
Our CAP is well and truly down the drain pipe and we have gone further down the drain by the scrutiny given to the club by Go and her NRL affiliated colleagues.

The club has to start looking at other ways to lure top players. Is it possible to lure a top player by finding some high rollers who would offer him a TPAs of total $500K and at the same time the club signing him to only $100K taken out of the CAP? This or something similar appears to what is being done by most other clubs and the NRL is turning a blind eye to it.
 
@stryker said:
Just to add to ricksen's post, we have also been told by the people who have accurate figures sitting in front of them that 2016 is already spent.

No point really in getting your hopes up creating spreadsheets containing guesses and rumours to find some hidden cash. If you believe the powers that be, we are already watching 2016's team run around.
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That fact should make us all tingle with excitement!!
 
@Newtown said:
Our CAP is well and truly down the drain pipe and we have gone further down the drain by the scrutiny given to the club by Go and her NRL affiliated colleagues.

The club has to start looking at other ways to lure top players. Is it possible to lure a top player by finding some high rollers who would offer him a TPAs of total $500K and at the same time the club signing him to only $100K taken out of the CAP? This or something similar appears to what is being done by most other clubs and the NRL is turning a blind eye to it.
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Can't we just kidnap someone and dye their hair or something. Surely no one would notice :bulb:
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Newtown said:
Our CAP is well and truly down the drain pipe and we have gone further down the drain by the scrutiny given to the club by Go and her NRL affiliated colleagues.

The club has to start looking at other ways to lure top players. Is it possible to lure a top player by finding some high rollers who would offer him a TPAs of total $500K and at the same time the club signing him to only $100K taken out of the CAP? This or something similar appears to what is being done by most other clubs and the NRL is turning a blind eye to it.

Can't we just kidnap someone and dye their hair or something. Surely no one would notice :bulb:
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He will need to have a "Bold Personality".
 
@Newtown said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Newtown said:
Our CAP is well and truly down the drain pipe and we have gone further down the drain by the scrutiny given to the club by Go and her NRL affiliated colleagues.

The club has to start looking at other ways to lure top players. Is it possible to lure a top player by finding some high rollers who would offer him a TPAs of total $500K and at the same time the club signing him to only $100K taken out of the CAP? This or something similar appears to what is being done by most other clubs and the NRL is turning a blind eye to it.

Can't we just kidnap someone and dye their hair or something. Surely no one would notice :bulb:

He will need to have a "Bold Personality".
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You'd certainly need some fine cotton for the jerseys that week Newtown
 
take it as gospel moltzen 300 thousand and galloway 600 thousand. now you know why we struggle with one million down the drain
 
@Mccarry said:
I have been ranting to myself that we can't possibly be over the 2016 cap of 6.8m. Yet after doing the spreadsheet it now seems more likely that we are actually pretty close (before Keith's departure and inflating some of the numbers below to allow for backended contracts).

My guesses at what players would have got when they signed contracts…based on where most were anticipated to be at by 2016...

**Players 2016**
AKAUOLA, Sitaleki 100
BROOKS, Luke 500
CHERRINGTON, Manaia 85
DRINKWATER, Josh 100
FARAH, Robbie (c) 900
FINE, Asipeli 85
GALLOWAY, Keith 400
GRAHAM, Dallas 85
HELETA, Watson 85
HOETER, Delouise 85
LAWRENCE, Chris 500
LIOLEVAVE, Lamar 85
LODGE, Matthew 150
MOSES, Mitchell 500
NAIQAMA, Kevin 150
NOFOALUMA, David 300
PENI, Chance 100
SEVE, Marion 85
SIMONA, Tim 300
SIRONEN, Curtis 300
SUE, Sauaso 250
TAUPAU, Martin 200
TEDESCO, James 450
WOODS, Aaron 700
**Total 6,495**

I am happy to update with any solid info on known amounts.
Farah, Lawrence and Galloway are probably 100K to 200K higher if they have backended contracts.
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If you get a chance have a go at the Roosters. Lets see how it compares.
 
My frustration came from doing the player by player comparison with other teams. Roosters, Broncos, Souths, NQ, even the Bulldogs. How other clubs fit their teams into the salary cap is beyond me.

Compare them the us, Penrith, St George etc and things just don't stack up.
 
seriously, if Brooks/Moses are on $500k & Simona/Nofoaluma are on $300k, whoever signed those contracts should be thrown off the gap!

The rest look ok, and while I guess your factoring in the backloading, I doubt Woods would be on $700k and Farah $900k.

Surely both these 2 attracted TPA's to get them to their top price?

Rowdy, Farah & Galloway might also attract some discounts being at the club 10 years?
 
300k for Liam Fulton would still be on the books too I would say. He was injured with a 3 yr contract I believe which we will still need to be paying
 
@Boonboon2 said:
300k for Liam Fulton would still be on the books too I would say. He was injured with a 3 yr contract I believe which we will still need to be paying
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If that is right we are being royally screwed again, other clubs don't pay for players who have retired because of injuries, they get exemptions.
 
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