Xerri Stood Down after Drug Test

[pawsandclaws1]

Does anyone else agree a review needs to be undertaken into what measures were put in place by the Sharks following the peptides saga ? I would imagine if measures were in place, why was their star 19 year old centre able to use this type of drug without being detected by his coach and other professional trainers?

The club has a duty of care and potentially this is the end of this teenagers career. The outcome could have been potentially so much better had the club detected the use and voluntarily approached ASADA to make a deal. I think Peter Vlandys has a big decision to make about the.Sharks.

Or how about an individual taking responsibility for his own actions? ?

It makes you wonder if his sprint coach suspected anything? Surely in that field he would have seen plenty of it before and would have queried the amount of speed improvement in such a short time.

His sprint coach (Fabri) was interviewed on Big Sports Breakfast on Thursday; said the rate of speed improvement was the result of focusing on the mechanics of sprinting and was a natural improvement. Was a good interview, link here: http://media.skyracing.com.au/POD/1/Cm9Ti9.mp3

What a silly thing for him to say. He could say it 'seemed' like a natural improvement, or it was a progression that looked the same as natural improvements he had seen before, but how could he say it 'was' a natural improvement?

Thank you for posting the interview.

(Edit: I listened to this interview now, and I do like the way the sprint coach expresses himself. Certainly is a good interview.)

Just realised where I had heard the sprint coach's name before.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Does anyone else agree a review needs to be undertaken into what measures were put in place by the Sharks following the peptides saga ? I would imagine if measures were in place, why was their star 19 year old centre able to use this type of drug without being detected by his coach and other professional trainers?

The club has a duty of care and potentially this is the end of this teenagers career. The outcome could have been potentially so much better had the club detected the use and voluntarily approached ASADA to make a deal. I think Peter Vlandys has a big decision to make about the.Sharks.

I'm sure the club does have a duty of care but that does not mean they assume all responsibility for his actions. He could easily have been influenced by dodgy mates or family or made his own decision to seek out these types of substances because he didn't want his career being slowed down by injury. How are his coach and trainers supposed to monitor his every act? Unless they're blood testing him or he's showing overt signs of substance abuse they really have no way of knowing. I'm not sure what measures you think the club could have taken to prevent a player taking substances outside of the club's grounds of his own volition (which for all we know at this stage could have been the scenario).
I can't see PVL doing anything to punish the Sharks unless they are somehow implicated in evidence yet to be revealed. I don't see why it should have been incumbent on them (as distinct from any other club) to implement a testing regime over and above the ASADA regime. If the NRL want to introduce that then it has to be across the board, and I'm pretty sure the RLPA would not be keen on subjecting its members to further intrusive blood testing.

It is noticeable how solid he had become in the shoulders and chest in a reasonably short period of time following shoulder surgery. This is a teenager with not many NRL games experience. In addition, his sprint Coach made comment of his increase in pace over other NRL players from other clubs who themselves are quick. All in all, more than enough for an NRL coach and professional staff to have that chat with the player.

He's 19 and training professionally, it's not necessarily outside the norm that he would bulk up significantly or improve his pace. Plenty do so naturally at that age and some do at even younger ages. So someone from the club should have gone up to him and by implication or otherwise suggested he was juicing, and then expected him to give an honest response if he was? That seems a little unrealistic to me.

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Brian smith have a dig at Paul Gallen bulking up when he moved to sharks. Years later comment I think.
Obviously didn’t go unnoticed.
Not saying Paul did use PED though

 

[cochise]

Does anyone else agree a review needs to be undertaken into what measures were put in place by the Sharks following the peptides saga ? I would imagine if measures were in place, why was their star 19 year old centre able to use this type of drug without being detected by his coach and other professional trainers?

The club has a duty of care and potentially this is the end of this teenagers career. The outcome could have been potentially so much better had the club detected the use and voluntarily approached ASADA to make a deal. I think Peter Vlandys has a big decision to make about the.Sharks.

I'm sure the club does have a duty of care but that does not mean they assume all responsibility for his actions. He could easily have been influenced by dodgy mates or family or made his own decision to seek out these types of substances because he didn't want his career being slowed down by injury. How are his coach and trainers supposed to monitor his every act? Unless they're blood testing him or he's showing overt signs of substance abuse they really have no way of knowing. I'm not sure what measures you think the club could have taken to prevent a player taking substances outside of the club's grounds of his own volition (which for all we know at this stage could have been the scenario).
I can't see PVL doing anything to punish the Sharks unless they are somehow implicated in evidence yet to be revealed. I don't see why it should have been incumbent on them (as distinct from any other club) to implement a testing regime over and above the ASADA regime. If the NRL want to introduce that then it has to be across the board, and I'm pretty sure the RLPA would not be keen on subjecting its members to further intrusive blood testing.

It is noticeable how solid he had become in the shoulders and chest in a reasonably short period of time following shoulder surgery. This is a teenager with not many NRL games experience. In addition, his sprint Coach made comment of his increase in pace over other NRL players from other clubs who themselves are quick. All in all, more than enough for an NRL coach and professional staff to have that chat with the player.

He's 19 and training professionally, it's not necessarily outside the norm that he would bulk up significantly or improve his pace. Plenty do so naturally at that age and some do at even younger ages. So someone from the club should have gone up to him and by implication or otherwise suggested he was juicing, and then expected him to give an honest response if he was? That seems a little unrealistic to me.


Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Brian smith have a dig at Paul Gallen bulking up when he moved to sharks. Years later comment I think.
Obviously didn’t go unnoticed.
Not saying Paul did use PED though

I'm ok saying he was injected with something he shouldn't have been.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Does anyone else agree a review needs to be undertaken into what measures were put in place by the Sharks following the peptides saga ? I would imagine if measures were in place, why was their star 19 year old centre able to use this type of drug without being detected by his coach and other professional trainers?

The club has a duty of care and potentially this is the end of this teenagers career. The outcome could have been potentially so much better had the club detected the use and voluntarily approached ASADA to make a deal. I think Peter Vlandys has a big decision to make about the.Sharks.

Or how about an individual taking responsibility for his own actions? ?

It makes you wonder if his sprint coach suspected anything? Surely in that field he would have seen plenty of it before and would have queried the amount of speed improvement in such a short time.

His sprint coach (Fabri) was interviewed on Big Sports Breakfast on Thursday; said the rate of speed improvement was the result of focusing on the mechanics of sprinting and was a natural improvement. Was a good interview, link here: http://media.skyracing.com.au/POD/1/Cm9Ti9.mp3

What a silly thing for him to say. He could say it 'seemed' like a natural improvement, or it was a progression that looked the same as natural improvements he had seen before, but how could he say it 'was' a natural improvement?

Thank you for posting the interview.

(Edit: I listened to this interview now, and I do like the way the sprint coach expresses himself. Certainly is a good interview.)

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[diedpretty]

There's a rumour floating around that the hammer may fall on another 2-3 players but I really hope no one else has been stupid enough to run a cycle of gear through them.

I heard that too, but no mention if it was Cronulla or another club

We are safe nobody has got faster or bigger

What about Seyfarth ......5 kgs in 7 weeks Willow said

I've done that since isolation. Of course my 5kg is fat.

 

[Swordy]

Wasn't the informant on Xerri a member of the public, claiming he has suspected his drug use for several years?

 

[tonza]

NRL Clubs do there own testing outside of ASADA...what does that tell you...

Hard to believe those close to him did not know something was going on. Like family, best friend, coaches etc.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Wasn't the informant on Xerri a member of the public, claiming he has suspected his drug use for several years?

Wouldn't think they would follow up on some random member of the public's hunch? Would be surprised if they did TBH.

 

[Newtown]

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Morris reiterated the depth of education junior players receive as they come through the NRL and NSWRL systems, leaving no room for interpretation.

He said he has never had any suspicions young players were doping but this incident is a stark reminder that it can happen.

"We certainly do everything we can within our club to provide all the education to the players, our compliance to the anti-doping code and we've got our own supplements policy," he said.

"The education players get is second to none. It's just mind-blowing that young players can find themselves in this situation.

 

[jadtiger]

Wasn't the informant on Xerri a member of the public, claiming he has suspected his drug use for several years?

I would think it would probably be someone with official connections to a junior club or possibly even someone from the senior club.

 

[Don Kershane]

Xerri could claim the hormones came from the beef at Engadine Maccas. A positive sample from SchloMo could help his cause.

 

[tigerbenji]

Does anyone else agree a review needs to be undertaken into what measures were put in place by the Sharks following the peptides saga ? I would imagine if measures were in place, why was their star 19 year old centre able to use this type of drug without being detected by his coach and other professional trainers?

The club has a duty of care and potentially this is the end of this teenagers career. The outcome could have been potentially so much better had the club detected the use and voluntarily approached ASADA to make a deal. I think Peter Vlandys has a big decision to make about the.Sharks.

Or how about an individual taking responsibility for his own actions? ?

Does anyone else agree a review needs to be undertaken into what measures were put in place by the Sharks following the peptides saga ? I would imagine if measures were in place, why was their star 19 year old centre able to use this type of drug without being detected by his coach and other professional trainers?

The club has a duty of care and potentially this is the end of this teenagers career. The outcome could have been potentially so much better had the club detected the use and voluntarily approached ASADA to make a deal. I think Peter Vlandys has a big decision to make about the.Sharks.

Or how about an individual taking responsibility for his own actions? ?

There is no doubt he should receive punishment. But seriously, a super quick, super strong Xerri after major shoulder surgery?

It makes you wonder if his sprint coach suspected anything? Surely in that field he would have seen plenty of it before and would have queried the amount of speed improvement in such a short time.

Not bagging the Sprint Coach, but he has had a few who have bad habits .

 

[twentyforty]

Does anyone else agree a review needs to be undertaken into what measures were put in place by the Sharks following the peptides saga ? I would imagine if measures were in place, why was their star 19 year old centre able to use this type of drug without being detected by his coach and other professional trainers?

The club has a duty of care and potentially this is the end of this teenagers career. The outcome could have been potentially so much better had the club detected the use and voluntarily approached ASADA to make a deal. I think Peter Vlandys has a big decision to make about the.Sharks.

Or how about an individual taking responsibility for his own actions? ?

It makes you wonder if his sprint coach suspected anything? Surely in that field he would have seen plenty of it before and would have queried the amount of speed improvement in such a short time.

His sprint coach (Fabri) was interviewed on Big Sports Breakfast on Thursday; said the rate of speed improvement was the result of focusing on the mechanics of sprinting and was a natural improvement. Was a good interview, link here: http://media.skyracing.com.au/POD/1/Cm9Ti9.mp3

What a silly thing for him to say. He could say it 'seemed' like a natural improvement, or it was a progression that looked the same as natural improvements he had seen before, but how could he say it 'was' a natural improvement?

Thank you for posting the interview.

(Edit: I listened to this interview now, and I do like the way the sprint coach expresses himself. Certainly is a good interview.)

I listened to the interview and could find nothing silly about the remark. His rate of improvement was seen as “natural” because it’s something he has seen before with others he has coached. He didn’t mean natural as opposed to chemically driven. imo 🙂

 

[pawsandclaws1]

If anybody can post it there is a SMH article - ASADA focus on Xerri family

As someone posted, a pity Northies wasn't open as Xerri could have done his own self test.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2020-bronson-xerri-doping-family-cronulla-sharks-asada-investigation-steroids/news-story/c86b831f79c9697dfc7b3852fca93ffb

 

[tony soprano]

If anybody can post it there is a SMH article - ASADA focus on Xerri family

As someone posted, a pity Northies wasn't open as Xerri could have done his own self test.

If it’s smh just got on private to smh website then click the article it comes up if your on private/incognito

 

[cochise]

If anybody can post it there is a SMH article - ASADA focus on Xerri family

As someone posted, a pity Northies wasn't open as Xerri could have done his own self test.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2020-bronson-xerri-doping-family-cronulla-sharks-asada-investigation-steroids/news-story/c86b831f79c9697dfc7b3852fca93ffb

Asada Focus on Xerri's family in drugs investigation

The Australian Anti-Doping Authority has taken an interest in the family of Bronson Xerri and its colourful history as it investigates criminal links around the supply of anabolic steroids following the Cronulla teenager’s positive drugs test.

Xerri, 19, has been provisionally stood down and is facing a suspension of up to four years after returning a positive A-sample to the banned substances exogenous testosterone, androsterone, etiocholanolone and 5b-androstane-3a,17b-diol when target tested following a tip-off last November.

An array of illegal substances from prescription drugs including steroids, valium and xanax, ammunition and a bayonet knife were seized during raids on premises in Merrylands, Greystanes, Ermington and Granville. Police also found more than $50,000 in cash.


It resulted in Troy Xerri facing Parramatta Local Court on charges of supplying a commercial quantity of a prohibited drug and take part in supply of a prohibited drug.

His jail term included a non-parole period of two years and six months.

ASADA investigators seized Bronson Xerri’s phone briefly this week to download data from it.

A call to the Xerri home on Friday went unanswered.

Xerri has previously spoken of the importance of his family, which has connections to the harness racing industry, during his rapid rugby league rise. His other older brother Dylan presented him with his maiden first-grade jersey before his NRL debut last year.


Dylan was a promising lower-grader at the Sharks before injury curtailed his career.

Speaking after his first NRL game, Xerri said: “I was doing it for my family. My family was very proud of me.”

On Friday, Cronulla coach John Morris said he was "sick in the stomach" when told of Xerri's positive A-sample.

"I actually haven't spoken to Bronson myself ... I've reached out, I think he just needs some space to get his head around it," Morris said before Cronulla's match against Wests Tigers at Bankwest Stadium on Saturday.

"I've made contact with him, the club has certainly got in touch with him, but I don't think he has spoken to anyone. I think he is just taking this time to get his head around the situation he is in."


The Sharks coach said he was in his office on Tuesday with staff when he received a call from the club's general manager of football, Phil Moss, about 12.30pm.

"I was told to report to his office straight away for something urgent," he said. "I clearly didn't think it was going to be anything like that."

Morris then had to break the news to the team during a training session on Wednesday morning. "It was pretty hard telling them," he said. "They obviously found out but we couldn't get them face to face."

The Sharks are bracing to pay Xerri until his case is resolved, which could take months pending the results of the B-sample he can have analysed.

While the doping violation is yet to be confirmed with a B sample, the attention of ASADA investigators is now very much on trying to establish whether there are criminal links to the distribution of the substances found in Xerri’s system.

It was a year-long Australian Crime Commission investigation into sports, prohibited substances and organised crime that preceded the Cronulla and Essendon doping scandals in the last decade.

According to a source with knowledge of ASADA's Xerri probe, there is a particular interest in the player's family.

The Herald can reveal the Sharks youngster’s 28-year-old brother Troy was sentenced to an aggregate term of five years imprisonment in 2014 over drugs charges.

Troy was initially one of eight men, including two teenagers, who were charged over drugs supply in south-west Sydney eight years ago.


The six-month wait between Xerri's test and notification of his positive sample has frustrated Sharks officials, who have openly questioned whether they would have let Josh Morris walk out on his deal to join the Roosters earlier this year if they had known about the drugs shock earlier.

The 2016 premiers let Morris reunite with his twin brother Brett at the Roosters given they had Xerri and Jesse Ramien as their first-choice centres to start the season and were battling salary-cap pressure.

Cronulla can make an application for salary cap relief to the NRL, which said on Friday it would consider any submission on its merits.

 

[JD Tiger]

Does anyone else agree a review needs to be undertaken into what measures were put in place by the Sharks following the peptides saga ? I would imagine if measures were in place, why was their star 19 year old centre able to use this type of drug without being detected by his coach and other professional trainers?

The club has a duty of care and potentially this is the end of this teenagers career. The outcome could have been potentially so much better had the club detected the use and voluntarily approached ASADA to make a deal. I think Peter Vlandys has a big decision to make about the.Sharks.

Or how about an individual taking responsibility for his own actions? ?

It makes you wonder if his sprint coach suspected anything? Surely in that field he would have seen plenty of it before and would have queried the amount of speed improvement in such a short time.

His sprint coach (Fabri) was interviewed on Big Sports Breakfast on Thursday; said the rate of speed improvement was the result of focusing on the mechanics of sprinting and was a natural improvement. Was a good interview, link here: http://media.skyracing.com.au/POD/1/Cm9Ti9.mp3

What a silly thing for him to say. He could say it 'seemed' like a natural improvement, or it was a progression that looked the same as natural improvements he had seen before, but how could he say it 'was' a natural improvement?

Thank you for posting the interview.

(Edit: I listened to this interview now, and I do like the way the sprint coach expresses himself. Certainly is a good interview.)


I listened to the interview and could find nothing silly about the remark. His rate of improvement was seen as “natural” because it’s something he has seen before with others he has coached. He didn’t mean natural as opposed to chemically driven. imo 🙂

Yeah I was I think a little harsh on the speaker calling him silly.

 

[Geo]

So let me get this right Sharpies have a player allegedly doping that they had no clue about so wouldn't have let a player go and now want to apply possibly for Cap relief...mkay...

 

[jadtiger]

So let me get this right Sharpies have a player allegedly doping that they had no clue about so wouldn't have let a player go and now want to apply possibly for Cap relief...mkay...

The good news is Toddles is no longer part of the decision process so hopefully we may see consistency in decisions