You’re dropped!

Mc Ilwrick has to come into the team, Some of Taylors passes from dummy half were shocking, Did Packer come back on in the 2nd half? or did he get injured.
 
Im seeing a fair bit of inconsistency with this accountability issue.

Fonua was correctly sat down for a week because of it.

Benji Marshall has been awful for the last 4 or 5 weeks and there has been no accountability for his actions whatsoever.

Cant have it both ways. Either you hold eveyone accountable and there are clear promotion and demotion or you dont.

You want culture, drop Marshall and make him accountable for his poor displays.
 
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Come on, you know you want to.

Marshall must go.

McQueen - please tell me we have him for this year only

Eisenhuth - I call him KOD- King Of Plod

Sue - he’s just terrible

Rochow - just go mate

Nofa - you’re hanging on by a thread.

Eisenhuth doesn't deserve to be on this list. He plays his assigned role well, he gets through a lot of work. Him and ET play a similar role (when ET isn't hooker). I'd take him over ET these days.

The honeymoon is over for Marshall unfortunately, he just keeps handing momentum back to the other team too often.
 
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I can't see Gamble being a better option. Maybe Lolihea if fit. Otherwise I would stick with Benji. Hopefully Reynolds gives us something because we need something soon.

You or I would honestly be a better option than Benji. He has offered nothing the last 4-6 weeks. Would add an x factor if gamble was to debut instead of inept Play by a senior player.

Apart from Fonua we have no x factor. Lots of noughts. No crosses.
 
no need to panic yet right IC. WT are the club in perpetual rebuild. Couple of senior players not stepping up when they should be and should be put on notice.
 
I don't want to see ET at dummy half again full stop. He's fine at 13 leave him there. Mckillwrick could have an off game and still be better than ET at 9 last night.
 
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Players in the squad who didn’t play tonight:
Felise
Reynolds
Gamble
Fonua
Tui
Naiqama
Godinet
McIlwrick
Aloiai
Grant

Of those the only ones I’d consider bringing in would be Reynolds, Aloiai, Fonua, Felise.

I agree with you. Onl y addition would be Mcilrwick as starting hooker. Never want to see Taylor at hooker again. Cant pass ball quickly or accurately.

Neither can McIlwrick!
 
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I can't see Gamble being a better option. Maybe Lolihea if fit. Otherwise I would stick with Benji. Hopefully Reynolds gives us something because we need something soon.

You or I would honestly be a better option than Benji. He has offered nothing the last 4-6 weeks. Would add an x factor if gamble was to debut instead of inept Play by a senior player.

Gamble is not the answer.

Throw a "0" number of NRL games played 5/8 into a cauldron that is struggling with the forwards being dominated.

Great idea… then you'll be saying "Gamble is not the answer - send him back to the QLD Cup."

Reynolds is the only answer and we have to wait until his return, hopefully next game.
 
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Think the Huth can hold his head high….Couple of last ditch tackles in the first half were great. Think people just see his height and think he's a plodder, this fella has real ticker imo.

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I like MCK. I think he’s a good bench player.

McQueen is terrible and looks like he should be working in an organic hipster cafe in Surry Hills.

Glad you gave him a go - less than half a game after about year. Good one.
 
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I can't see Gamble being a better option. Maybe Lolihea if fit. Otherwise I would stick with Benji. Hopefully Reynolds gives us something because we need something soon.

You or I would honestly be a better option than Benji. He has offered nothing the last 4-6 weeks. Would add an x factor if gamble was to debut instead of inept Play by a senior player.

Gamble is not the answer.

Throw a "0" number of NRL games played 5/8 into a cauldron that is struggling with the forwards being dominated.

Great idea… then you'll be saying "Gamble is not the answer - send him back to the QLD Cup."

Reynolds is the only answer and we have to wait until his return, hopefully next game.

Remember his first game back with us…..He may need a few games in ISP. Perfect time to blood Gamble imo.
 
Jesus are people watching the same stuff as me. Our boys are nit superstars they are or were average first graders. They are fighting their guts out every week you cant ask for more then that.

Listen to cleary this will take a few years for us to be truley truly competitive. Our boys are massively over achieving look at the big picture i would have taken 6-5 to start the year.

We have more money to spend than so we will grab a player or two a year and add talent to our dogs of war.

Im proud of them all even though we miss alot of tackles and make some momentum turning mistakes, we fight all the way not something we could have said for a long time
 
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Our forwards laid no platform tonight - our backs didn't lose us this game.

They had no ball and when they did, there was no space.

That's a worry because it was the best forward pack we could put on the field.
 
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Jesus are people watching the same stuff as me. Our boys are nit superstars they are or were average first graders. They are fighting their guts out every week you cant ask for more then that.

Listen to cleary this will take a few years for us to be truley truly competitive. Our boys are massively over achieving look at the big picture i would have taken 6-5 to start the year.

We have more money to spend than so we will grab a player or two a year and add talent to our dogs of war.

Im proud of them all even though we miss alot of tackles and make some momentum turning mistakes, we fight all the way not something we could have said for a long time

x2\. This is a team that was expected to finish in the bottom 3\. If you told me at the start of the year we'd still be in the 8 after round 11 I would have insisted you lay off the ice. We made a ton of errors yet kept them to only a couple of penalty goals in the second half. Last year they would have run away with it and put 50 on us. The defensive attitude and scramble said plenty about the culture at the club.
 
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Our forwards laid no platform tonight - our backs didn't lose us this game.

They had no ball and when they did, there was no space.

That's a worry because it was **the best forward pack we could put on the field**.

I would have had Aloiai in - only forward we have who can break the line, and Grant has been playing better than Sue
 
Eiso did make 49 tackles last week and largely shut down Taumololo. But hey, yeah that's average.

Chee Kam was simply trying to spark something in attack seeing as we were playing so terribly and time was running out.

Benji - Yet another awful game. Needs time in ISP to level his head out. He's not 21 nor golden boot anymore.

Sue actually played really well. Possibly our best prop last night. Made 2 hitups a set while he was on and made good metres on each. The HIAs are a worry though.

I'd let McQueen start over Rochow next week. See what he offers. A much better runner of the ball, but does he have the fitness to do his defensive work?

Nof needs to be dropped. He's not good enough. MWZ easily ahead of him now.
 
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Jesus are people watching the same stuff as me. Our boys are nit superstars they are or were average first graders. They are fighting their guts out every week you cant ask for more then that.

Listen to cleary this will take a few years for us to be truley truly competitive. Our boys are massively over achieving look at the big picture i would have taken 6-5 to start the year.

We have more money to spend than so we will grab a player or two a year and add talent to our dogs of war.

Im proud of them all even though we miss alot of tackles and make some momentum turning mistakes, we fight all the way not something we could have said for a long time

Another few years..that is good to know…
 
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Our forwards laid no platform tonight - our backs didn't lose us this game.

They had no ball and when they did, there was no space.

That's a worry because it was the best forward pack we could put on the field.

We never really got into that game.

After the Merrin sin bin, it was all Penrith until half-time. We were absorbing the pressure well and got it to a point where we were going set for set.

After half-time, we were murdered with penalties and a sin-bin. By the time we absorbed all that pressure, and with the clock running down, we had to try and play catch up. Unfortunately, the passes weren't sticking and the Penrith defence was well organised.

It was a carbon copy of the Melbourne game. The difference is, even though we copped heaps of penalties, Melbourne kept dropping the ball which kept us in the game. Penrith didn't drop the ball in the second half (if they did, it was 10m from our line) and we had no penalties to get us out of our end.

It was just one of those nights where penalties, dropped ball and the other team holding onto the ball and making their tackles suffocated us out of the game.

We did well to hang in there like we did.
 
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Our forwards laid no platform tonight - our backs didn't lose us this game.

They had no ball and when they did, there was no space.

That's a worry because it was **the best forward pack we could put on the field**.

I would have had Aloiai in - only forward we have who can break the line, and Grant has been playing better than Sue

Clearly Cleary does not Favor Grant.

Either way it did seem to be a strong tigers pack and we got walloped.
 
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Our forwards laid no platform tonight - our backs didn't lose us this game.

They had no ball and when they did, there was no space.

That's a worry because it was the best forward pack we could put on the field.

We never really got into that game.

After the Merrin sin bin, it was all Penrith until half-time. We were absorbing the pressure well and got it to a point where we were going set for set.

After half-time, we were murdered with penalties and a sin-bin. By the time we absorbed all that pressure, and with the clock running down, we had to try and play catch up. Unfortunately, the passes weren't sticking and the Penrith defence was well organised.

It was a carbon copy of the Melbourne game. The difference is, even though we copped heaps of penalties, Melbourne kept dropping the ball which kept us in the game. Penrith didn't drop the ball in the second half (if they did, it was 10m from our line) and we had no penalties to get us out of our end.

It was just one of those nights where penalties, dropped ball and the other team holding onto the ball and making their tackles suffocated us out of the game.

We did well to hang in there like we did.

I didn't see the game, but didnt we get 8 or 9 penalties to their 2 in the first half? As well as them being down a man for 10 minutes. Why the hell could we not get into the game with that advantage? That's ridiculous really.
 

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