YOUNG GUNS RECEIVE HIGH PRAISE

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YOUNG GUNS RECEIVE HIGH PRAISE
By Wayne Cousins
Friday, 22 January 2010

Four of the biggest names at Wests Tigers have chosen their players to watch in the countdown to the NRL season kick-off.

Hooker and captain Robbie Farah, Kiwi Test captain Benji Marshall, England second-rower Gareth Ellis, and former Kiwi Test prop Jason Cayless were asked to nominate which players had impressed them in pre-season training.

Only Farah and Cayless chose the same player in half-back Robert Lui.

Marshall nominated full-back/half-back Tim Moltzen and centre Blake Ayshford while Ellis chose rising lock Matt Hyland.

Lui, Moltzen, Ayshford and Hyland are products of the Wests Tigers U20s team which further highlights the pathway to the NRL through the Toyota Cup competition.

Back in training after representing Australia on the Four Nations tournament, Farah predicted a big year for Lui, who broke into the first grade team in round 23 last year.

“Rob has the skill and the speed. It would have been hard for him to come into the team at half-back for those three games with Benji and I there,’’ Farah said.

“He is feeling more comfortable now, is starting to talk more, and is taking the line on at training. Rob is just one of those kids who you can see has the talent to be anything in the game. He can be super for us this year.”

A former premiership winning prop with the Sydney Roosters, Cayless encouraged Lui to talk more.

“Robert Lui is a talented young kid who is strong, very quick and has a good head on him. He has been training pretty hard so it could be a big year for him,’’ Cayless said.

“Being a half-back, you have got to be able to tell blokes what to do. For shy guys like Robert, it does come with age. I was quiet shy when I first started playing but I didn’t have to tell people what to do.

“When you are a shy person, your voice comes as you get more seniority but being a half-back, you can’t afford to do that. Rob has got to do it now.

“It is not as though Rob is going to have to call all of the plays with Benji and Robbie Farah there but he still needs to find his voice.”

Two of the success stories for the Wests Tigers in the NRL last season was the emergence of Moltzen and Ayshford. Marshall feels there is no reason why both can’t step up to another level in 2010.

“Moltz has been killing it. He has come leaps and bounds on last year. He killed it last year but just to see his progress from when I went away for the Four Nations to coming back for the start of this pre-season, is incredible.

“I mean just his attitude and the attitude he shows out on the field, I think he is in for a big year. I have said it before but I feel Moltz is a future Origin and rep player.

“Blake got to play 15 games last year after coming into the team as a bit of an unknown where as now, he has sort of taken on a role as a leader.

“He has been training the house down in the gym. Out on the field, he has been training harder than I have seen him train and he is looking better than he has ever looked. He is also talking more.

“If there are two players who I think are up for a big year, it is those two.”

Ellis, the world’s best second-rower, has paid Hyland a huge compliment. Hyland is enjoying his first pre-season summer in the full-time squad. The 19-year-old can still play in the U20s this season.

“He sort of reminds me of myself when I was his age, just a hard working player. He is probably a little bit ahead of me where I was at 19’’ Ellis said.

“Matt has got a big future ahead of him. He has the skills and is the type of bloke you can tell everyone wants to play alongside.

“He would never let anyone down. Hopefully I will get my chance of playing alongside him.

“Matt has the same work ethic as Chris Heighington - that never say die attitude who keeps turning up for the team.

“When I watched the U20s last year, Matt was the one who stood out for me. His attitude impressed me. Attitude goes along way when you are his age.”

Ellis said he was impressed by Hyland’s high work rate in defence in which he averaged more than 40 tackles a game last year.

“Matt has a good engine and that is one of the big things you need when you want to play NRL,’’ Ellis said.

“He needs to keep working hard in the gym. My advice to him would be to carry on the way he is, keep his head down, and work really hard, and don’t fall to any outside temptations.

“Matt can’t let that get ahead of him because he could have a good 10 to 15 year career in the NRL. If he gets his chance in first grade this season, I am sure he will take it with both hands.”
 
Good to hear the players opinions on who is standing out. That's 3 players now who have rated Lui, including Payten. Most of us have predicted big things for Moltzen and Ayshford this year and it's good to hear they have been training the house down and as for Hyland, no doubt he can tackle all day but there are quite a few backrowers competing for a spot so I'll be interested to see if he starts in the 20's or is promoted to State Cup.
 
That's a really positive read.
Great for Lui which really throws an interesting spanner in the 7, 14 & 1 question (Lui, AJ & Moltz respectively quite possibly)
Also really good that it sounds like Cayless is taking a leadership role & helping the young guys. His (& Gareths) experience will hopefully be invaluable with all the young guys we've got coming through.
 
I couldn't be more impressed with Moltzen last season, he's what i'm looking forward to the most this year, As for Lui the news sounds good but we already knew he has the skills and is quick but unfortunately we didn't get to see much of it when he played those few games last year, he still has to prove he can tackle before i get excited about his prospects. But good news all around.
 
Ayshford & Moltz are gonna have a massive year I reckon. I hope Lui kills it too.. big slices of humble pie to go around when he does. So many have already written him off after a tepid but far from awful dip into first grade, despite his potential being off the scale.

I fear Hyland will end up at another club. He has the goods and will be an outstanding first grader in the future, but we have a bottomless pit of quality backrowers atm. I can easily see another club identifying his talent and making him an offer that he can't refuse.
 
hmm all the info i had heard was that taumata was a sure thing for the 7 spot, by the looks of it with these wraps lui is getting (from 3 of our most experienced players) he may actually be the front runner.

i dont think ive ever looked forward to the trails so much in forever, for the first time in our history spots in the team really are wide open!
 
Robbie did talk about Taumatta on Summertime and said he will be great if he can stay out of trouble, off the feild. An interesting comment coming from a player.
 
@Balmain Tiger said:
if lui wants to be in 1st grade he oughta learn how to tackle

The team have been working hard on D and Lui will be a better defender and more mature player this season.
 
@Danos said:
Ayshford & Moltz are gonna have a massive year I reckon. I hope Lui kills it too.. big slices of humble pie to go around when he does. So many have already written him off after a tepid but far from awful dip into first grade, despite his potential being off the scale.

I fear Hyland will end up at another club. He has the goods and will be an outstanding first grader in the future, but we have a bottomless pit of quality backrowers atm. I can easily see another club identifying his talent and making him an offer that he can't refuse.

I dont think Hyland will go anywhere. Sheens has been wrapping this kid since he was 16\. Sheens has also stated previously at a post match presentation that he "wont allow another Ryan Hoffman situation with this kid" i.e. he wont let one of his best talents be snapped up from beneath him.
 
@towntiger said:
@Danos said:
Ayshford & Moltz are gonna have a massive year I reckon. I hope Lui kills it too.. big slices of humble pie to go around when he does. So many have already written him off after a tepid but far from awful dip into first grade, despite his potential being off the scale.

I fear Hyland will end up at another club. He has the goods and will be an outstanding first grader in the future, but we have a bottomless pit of quality backrowers atm. I can easily see another club identifying his talent and making him an offer that he can't refuse.

I dont think Hyland will go anywhere. Sheens has been wrapping this kid since he was 16\. Sheens has also stated previously at a post match presentation that he "wont allow another Ryan Hoffman situation with this kid" i.e. he wont let one of his best talents be snapped up from beneath him.

Tagive ring a bell?
 
I dont think we would of lost Tagive if he wasnt injured so often. I rate him as player and was disappointed when he left to go to the dragons. I hope he does kick on though.
Matty Hyland, I am in two minds with….offers me nothing in attack but his defence is awesome. He reminds of Dallas Johnson. I would reckon Jason Shirnak would be a better prospect for 1st grade.
Hoping also the Fifta brothers be paitent in learning the ropes as i dont think they are ready for 1st grade just yet. Still very soft and need a season of NSW Cup to harden them up. I rate them very highly but people need to be paitent with them. Just remember it has taken big Sauce nearly 4 years to fulfill his potienal of being a top line 1st grader. These boys are heading down the same path if they are paitent.
 

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