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@ said:Imagine if Sam Burgess eye gouged Jake friend…hed cop 8-12 weeks
But not Daly Cherry Evans...no, hes OK, MRC deemed it nothing
How crooked is this game?
Several times per year I wonder why I give them my hard earned
@ said:The refs aren't ruining the game. The fans complain about the refs in every single sport around the world.
@ said:Maybe not unpopular, but I hate players playing the ball off the mark and getting a penalty because the markers are made not square. I would change the rule so if an attacking player plays the ball off the mark then no defender can be called offside on the following play.
@ said:The game in general is run by a bunch of people who have no idea what so ever.
It's embarrassing that the average game attracts around 12,000, should be doing more to get people to games instead of watching it on TV
@ said:2 unpopular opinions I have are
1.Steve Walter's did NOT change the way hookers played, Benny Elias did.
2.Billy Slater did NOT change the way fullbacks play, Darren Lockyer did that.
Cant stand how so many people refer to Walters and Slater as revolutionaries. Both Elias and Lockyer had much more of an impact on their respective positions
@ said:2 unpopular opinions I have are
1.Steve Walter's did NOT change the way hookers played, Benny Elias did.
2.Billy Slater did NOT change the way fullbacks play, Darren Lockyer did that.
Cant stand how so many people refer to Walters and Slater as revolutionaries. Both Elias and Lockyer had much more of an impact on their respective positions
@ said:2 unpopular opinions I have are
1.Steve Walter's did NOT change the way hookers played, Benny Elias did.
2.Billy Slater did NOT change the way fullbacks play, Darren Lockyer did that.
Cant stand how so many people refer to Walters and Slater as revolutionaries. Both Elias and Lockyer had much more of an impact on their respective positions
@ said:@ said:Not sure if this will be unpopular, but I absolutely loathe the zero tackle restart. Several reasons:
1) It doesn't do what it's meant to. The idea was to encourage attacking play by introducing effectively a penalty for 'negative' kicking dead, but in fact all it does is make teams more conservative in attack.
2) It's palpably unfair. Drop a ball just short of the try line, the oppo gets a normal set starting with a scrum on 10m. Drop the same ball over the line, zero tackle set 20m out. If you put a lot of pressure on a team and end up having a video ref multiply reviewing grounding, you really don't deserve to see all that pressure evaporate if you didn't quite ground the ball.
3) It's obvious why it's never criticised: because it creates more attacking opportunities and thus more excitement. Who cares if it's unfair, if it means more sets ending in attacking positions rather than in midfield? In which case, why not just start all sets on 20m and zero tackles? Or half way?
The annoying thing is there's an incredibly obvious fix out there that no-one discusses. If the idea of the rule change was to stop defensive kicking, just make it so it only applies to kicks from outside the 20m or 30m line. That way you take kicks dead on purpose out of the game but don't penalise genuine attacking kicks.
I guess in theory a team leading narrowly in the final minutes that gets close to the opposition line would just kick dead. But they do anyway - just to the touchline. That's a slightly higher degree of difficulty kick than just booting it through the in-goal… but it's hardly a major element of the game.
agreed, but maybe just make it that (similar to a kick out on the full), the defending team gets the ball back from wherever it was kicked dead with a minimum of 20m. so if you belt it dead from 50 out the other team gets it at halfway
@ said:@ said:2 unpopular opinions I have are
1.Steve Walter's did NOT change the way hookers played, Benny Elias did.
2.Billy Slater did NOT change the way fullbacks play, Darren Lockyer did that.
Cant stand how so many people refer to Walters and Slater as revolutionaries. Both Elias and Lockyer had much more of an impact on their respective positions
Benny for what its worth is a different era , and played a different style
Benny had to win scrum's and could rake the ball from the play the ball
Walters is from the new era and led the change into that era , and when you compare Benny to Steve Walters in Walters era ,Walters wins , he was better than Benny , stronger defender
And then came along Cammy and he smashes them all out of the park
@ said:@ said:@ said:2 unpopular opinions I have are
1.Steve Walter's did NOT change the way hookers played, Benny Elias did.
2.Billy Slater did NOT change the way fullbacks play, Darren Lockyer did that.
Cant stand how so many people refer to Walters and Slater as revolutionaries. Both Elias and Lockyer had much more of an impact on their respective positions
Benny for what its worth is a different era , and played a different style
Benny had to win scrum's and could rake the ball from the play the ball
Walters is from the new era and led the change into that era , and when you compare Benny to Steve Walters in Walters era ,Walters wins , he was better than Benny , stronger defender
And then came along Cammy and he smashes them all out of the park
We've had this argument before old fella. Not taking anything away from Walters as a player. However, when you look at the comment "changed the way hookers play" which is often said when talking about Walter's, how did he do that? Steve was a hard running, no nonsense hooker, how is that changing how hookers play? Benny on the other hand, was the first halfback style hooker. An ability to kick, speed out of the ruck, getting into first receiver at times, ball playing. He had more of an effect on the hooking role. Not saying he is a better player then Walter's, that's a different argument (although I do think benny is better), I'm saying he had more impact on how hookers play then Walters. I just cant see how it can be perceived otherwise.
The Slater/Lockyer argument is a no brainer to for me. I have heard so many times that Slater changed how fullbacks play and he was the first ball playing fullback. Well that's just plain ridiculous and simply not true. Again, the argument isn't who is better, its who had more influence on the positions style of play. Its clearly Lockyer. (By the way, I also rate Lockyer a better fullback then Slater, Locky was incredible).
@ said:@ said:@ said:@ said:2 unpopular opinions I have are
1.Steve Walter's did NOT change the way hookers played, Benny Elias did.
2.Billy Slater did NOT change the way fullbacks play, Darren Lockyer did that.
Cant stand how so many people refer to Walters and Slater as revolutionaries. Both Elias and Lockyer had much more of an impact on their respective positions
Benny for what its worth is a different era , and played a different style
Benny had to win scrum's and could rake the ball from the play the ball
Walters is from the new era and led the change into that era , and when you compare Benny to Steve Walters in Walters era ,Walters wins , he was better than Benny , stronger defender
And then came along Cammy and he smashes them all out of the park
We've had this argument before old fella. Not taking anything away from Walters as a player. However, when you look at the comment "changed the way hookers play" which is often said when talking about Walter's, how did he do that? Steve was a hard running, no nonsense hooker, how is that changing how hookers play? Benny on the other hand, was the first halfback style hooker. An ability to kick, speed out of the ruck, getting into first receiver at times, ball playing. He had more of an effect on the hooking role. Not saying he is a better player then Walter's, that's a different argument (although I do think benny is better), I'm saying he had more impact on how hookers play then Walters. I just cant see how it can be perceived otherwise.
The Slater/Lockyer argument is a no brainer to for me. I have heard so many times that Slater changed how fullbacks play and he was the first ball playing fullback. Well that's just plain ridiculous and simply not true. Again, the argument isn't who is better, its who had more influence on the positions style of play. Its clearly Lockyer. (By the way, I also rate Lockyer a better fullback then Slater, Locky was incredible).
Yeah I know , one day we will have to have a brew together to discuss it :smiley:
@ said:@ said:@ said:@ said:Benny for what its worth is a different era , and played a different style
Benny had to win scrum's and could rake the ball from the play the ball
Walters is from the new era and led the change into that era , and when you compare Benny to Steve Walters in Walters era ,Walters wins , he was better than Benny , stronger defender
And then came along Cammy and he smashes them all out of the park
We've had this argument before old fella. Not taking anything away from Walters as a player. However, when you look at the comment "changed the way hookers play" which is often said when talking about Walter's, how did he do that? Steve was a hard running, no nonsense hooker, how is that changing how hookers play? Benny on the other hand, was the first halfback style hooker. An ability to kick, speed out of the ruck, getting into first receiver at times, ball playing. He had more of an effect on the hooking role. Not saying he is a better player then Walter's, that's a different argument (although I do think benny is better), I'm saying he had more impact on how hookers play then Walters. I just cant see how it can be perceived otherwise.
The Slater/Lockyer argument is a no brainer to for me. I have heard so many times that Slater changed how fullbacks play and he was the first ball playing fullback. Well that's just plain ridiculous and simply not true. Again, the argument isn't who is better, its who had more influence on the positions style of play. Its clearly Lockyer. (By the way, I also rate Lockyer a better fullback then Slater, Locky was incredible).
Yeah I know , one day we will have to have a brew together to discuss it :smiley:
Not XXXX though