Your team for Round 4

[system]

Only problem is Meaneys hamstring complaint is an issue right now Aladinsane, seemed to throw of his balance in kicking this week.

Benji may come out and kick 100% this week. Who knows

 

[AndTheKungFoSing]

Right,FHG, everyone is worried everytime Benji steps up to take a conversion (he averages around 60% last year & this year) and yet no one bar me has tried to come up with a solution.

Meaney is a tough experienced Fullback….....................Tick
Meaney is a much better coversion kicker than Benji.........Tick
Meaney is very solid with drop outs..............................Tick
Ryan will go back to his perferred position on the wing.......Tick
No waste of space , Brown in the team..........................Tick
Benji can focus on just setting up and scoring more tries....Tick.

Lets just hope that we don't lose the Canberra game by 2 points and Benji only kicks 1from 5 attempts this week as well :brick:

Meaney is completely untested at NRL level. The team wins and wins well, with Ryan playing his best game ever, to move him to make way for a kicker is crazy! I'm not saying Meaney is no good, I have huge wraps on him and so do many on the forums…. but to take a gamble on him after such a dominate win is silly.

I agree that our kicking needs to be addressed and done so asap! But... Taylor has only recently started up at the Tigers and I still believe Marshall is a very good kicker but is down on form. It'll be sorted out soon and no doubt me he'll be practising his kicks all week!

On a side note... Brown was far from a waste of space against the eels and did MORE than enough to warrant his second first grade game for the club...

 

[Yossarian]

Anyone moving Ryan from fullback is kidding themselves!!

Couldnt agree more mate!!! Absolute jibbers trying to change this position after that performance….especially the one who not only wants Meaney to take Ryans place, but wants him as the goal kicker. Geez, talk about throwing someone in under extreme pressure :slight_smile:

Right,FHG, everyone is worried everytime Benji steps up to take a conversion (he averages around 60% last year & this year) and yet no one bar me has tried to come up with a solution.

Meaney is a tough experienced Fullback….....................Tick
Meaney is a much better conversion kicker than Benji.........Tick
Meaney is very solid with drop outs..............................Tick
Ryan will go back to his perferred position on the wing.......Tick
No waste of space , Brown in the team..........................Tick
Benji can focus on just setting up and scoring more tries....Tick.

Lets just hope that we don't lose the Canberra game by 2 points and Benji only kicks 1from 5 attempts this week as well :brick:

Near as I can work out, Meaney is kicking at around 61% so far this year. Not exactly Ross Conlon stats…

 

[Footy_Head_Goodness]

Anyone moving Ryan from fullback is kidding themselves!!

Couldnt agree more mate!!! Absolute jibbers trying to change this position after that performance….especially the one who not only wants Meaney to take Ryans place, but wants him as the goal kicker. Geez, talk about throwing someone in under extreme pressure :slight_smile:

Right,FHG, everyone is worried everytime Benji steps up to take a conversion (he averages around 60% last year & this year) and yet no one bar me has tried to come up with a solution.

Meaney is a tough experienced Fullback….....................Tick
Meaney is a much better conversion kicker than Benji.........Tick
Meaney is very solid with drop outs..............................Tick
Ryan will go back to his perferred position on the wing.......Tick
No waste of space , Brown in the team..........................Tick
Benji can focus on just setting up and scoring more tries....Tick.

Lets just hope that we don't lose the Canberra game by 2 points and Benji only kicks 1from 5 attempts this week as well :brick:

You dont give Ryan a chance, have him do well, then take it off him. Really hope you arent a people manager mate!!! Ryan deserve another chance there especially considering that when TNT comes back Ryan's wing spot is gone…..so give him a chance at securing the fullback spot before NSW Cup players!!!

Meaney....experience fullback of how many years in first grade??? I dont know a lot about him so if hes been playing first gade elsewhere for 3 or more years i appologise! If he hasnt, and you are classing experience based on lower grades then you have disgraced yourself.

 

[Balmain_Tiger]

We need a goal kicker.

1\. Jake Mullaney
2\. Lote Tuqiri
3\. Chris Lawrence
4\. Blake Ayshford
5\. Beau Ryan
6\. Benji Marshall
7\. Tim Moltzen
8\. Keith Galloway
9\. Robbie Farah
10\. Bryce Gibbs
11\. Gareth Ellis
12\. Todd Payten
13\. Chris Heighnington

14\. Mark Flanagen
15\. Jason Cayless
16\. Andrew Fafita
17\. Liam Fulton

I will second to that shire nice looking team

good looking team, id be willing to swap ryan and mullaneys positions though. wing might be better for mullaney for the time being in FG as he wasnt much of a stand out in the trials

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

dont know if gibbs will be there. Doesnt he have an injury?

 

[bradexl]

Mullaney is definitely not ready for NRL yet. Meaney is a risk. Ryan at fullback is the logical selection. Dont worry about benji and his goalkicking, he had a bad day with the boot on friday but he has been known in the past to kick with great success.

 

[Aladinsane]

Right,FHG, everyone is worried everytime Benji steps up to take a conversion (he averages around 60% last year & this year) and yet no one bar me has tried to come up with a solution.

Meaney is a tough experienced Fullback….....................Tick
Meaney is a much better conversion kicker than Benji.........Tick
Meaney is very solid with drop outs..............................Tick
Ryan will go back to his perferred position on the wing.......Tick
No waste of space , Brown in the team..........................Tick
Benji can focus on just setting up and scoring more tries....Tick.

Lets just hope that we don't lose the Canberra game by 2 points and Benji only kicks 1from 5 attempts this week as well :brick:
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You dont give Ryan a chance, have him do well, then take it off him. Really hope you arent a people manager mate!!! Ryan deserve another chance there especially considering that when TNT comes back Ryan's wing spot is gone…..so give him a chance at securing the fullback spot before NSW Cup players!!!

Meaney....experience fullback of how many years in first grade??? I dont know a lot about him so if hes been playing first gade elsewhere for 3 or more years i appologise! If he hasnt, and you are classing experience based on lower grades then you have disgraced yourself.
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FGH, I totally agree that Beau had one of his best games at Fullback, I just saying that our conversion problem has to be addressed or otherwise we might see the Wests Tigers miss out on the 8 like last year..

eg the loss of the Brisbane game 20-18 @ Campbelltown, where Benji hit 1 from 4 attempts

The Bullbogs loss @ ANZ where Gallant only got 2 goals from 5 attempts.

WE would have won the Souths match as well if Benji converted 4 from 4.

It's been a problem since Hodgo left and must be addressed…..any ideas :bulb: on how to solve it?

 

[tomcat]

Meaney is a tough experienced Fullback….....................Tick,TICK TICK~~~~~~~~~~~~~____________________
Meaney is a much better conversion kicker than Benji.........Tick,TICK TICK~~~~~~~~~~~_____________________
Meaney is very solid with drop outs..............................Tick,TICK TICK~~~~~~~~~~~_______________________

 

[Footy_Head_Goodness]

The solution to our goal kicking is three fold:

1\. Finding someone other than Marshall in our starting side that can handle the job. Not adding a player to do the goal kicking. Surely having El Masri come in to do a weekly session will mean 1 of our backline will make a go of it. Im certain Lawrence or Moltzen will have the natural ability to put a foot onto a ball and with proper education around how to kick the ball off a tee, they will get close to 80%.

2\. If Marshall stays he needs a kicking coach….or a new one. Marshall doesnt kick the ball inside out from the right of the post being a right foot kicker. You need to be able to swing the ball the opposite way to open up the angle of the posts and a kicking coach would be able to teach this.

3\. Our general attack means we score out wide a lot! If we had more focussed attack on scoring closer to the posts that would make goal kicking a lot easier. Hell....id have a crack!

 

[Mulga_Bill]

The solution to our goal kicking is three fold:

1\. Finding someone other than Marshall in our starting side that can handle the job. Not adding a player to do the goal kicking. Surely having El Masri come in to do a weekly session will mean 1 of our backline will make a go of it. Im certain Lawrence or Moltzen will have the natural ability to put a foot onto a ball and with proper education around how to kick the ball off a tee, they will get close to 80%.

2\. If Marshall stays he needs a kicking coach….or a new one. Marshall doesnt kick the ball inside out from the right of the post being a right foot kicker. You need to be able to swing the ball the opposite way to open up the angle of the posts and a kicking coach would be able to teach this.

3\. Our general attack means we score out wide a lot! If we had more focussed attack on scoring closer to the posts that would make goal kicking a lot easier. Hell....id have a crack!

1.I agree with you here and Farah would probally be interested he doesn't want ennis having anything over him come
State Of Origin time.
2\. Jason Taylor is his new kicking coach Marshall didn't bring what he has practiced on match day it could take a couple of weeks for the changes to work.
3\. If we keep scoring out wide Marshall & Farah will have a ball running up the middle and the kicking percentage will go up.

 

[Yossarian]

3\. Our general attack means we score out wide a lot! If we had more focussed attack on scoring closer to the posts that would make goal kicking a lot easier. Hell….id have a crack!

Are you for real? You are joking right?

 

[tomcat]

we should focus more on scoring under the posts :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Sheens doesnt make too many changes even when we loose. So I cant see him changng anything other than Fitzy.

But…. No one has mentioned how ordinary Moltzen was at 7\. Add this too his poor 2nd round match, is Mr Moltzen starting to feel the pressure of playing NRL football week in, week out? Is he struggling to find his real place in this team? If Tim is our answer to Halfback, why did we have such poor 5th Tackle options on Friday night. Surely this responsibility must fall back to the 7 when Robbie & Benji is doing everything else?

The only benifit I saw on Friday with Tim at 7 was the fact Benji was standing alot wider than usual. Is this the key to the Tigers winning the Premiership? Andrew Johns always looked like a super star whenever Danny Buderus was at 9\. Danny at 9 was the real reason Johns always seemed to appear to have more time and take control of the games.

Does Tim at 7 give Benji that same luxury???

 

[tomcat]

mate i also think moltzen is struggling, is he playing with injury ? or maybe something to do with that plate in the back of his skull ? 😕

 

[Tiger_Watto]

mate i also think moltzen is struggling, is he playing with injury ? or maybe something to do with that plate in the back of his skull ?

What is the plate from?

 

[tomcat]

The dent that made Moltzen By Nick Walshaw From: : The Daily Telegraph
ASK Tim Moltzen if you can touch his dent. Go on. That depression at the back of his head beneath a short, surfie haircut.
"Because if you do, you'll actually be able to feel the metal underneath his skin,'' older brother Gus reveals. "Feel the corner of the metal plate, the spot where it's indented … throw in some dandruff and it's all quite disgusting really.''

Yep, this is how you unlock the 2009 phenomenon that is Wests Tigers wonderboy Moltzen. You rub the back of his melon and uncover the secret steel casing that's become something of a signature for this livewire utility. Like Benji Marshall and his sidestep. Or Taniela Tuiaki and those shiny, gold teeth.

You see, before the dent Moltzen was something of a cruisy type. A Central Coast teen whose spare hours were filled watching The Simpsons, hanging out by Terrigal beach and experimenting with new ways to dye his surfie blond locks.
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"Tim was fairly relaxed, yeah,'' Paul Moltzen concedes of his son. "Certainly not one of those boys who would be out training six days of every seven. He'd also been overlooked for a lot of junior rep sides. Told he was too small, too soft. All of which had Tim believing he was no good. He was ready to give the game away.''

And then came the dent. Arriving on what started like any other Saturday afternoon with the Terrigal Sharks back in 2005\. The side again at the top of the table. Gunning for their eighth consecutive Grand Final appearance. A team, according to trainer Caine Dunn, "that had plenty of superstars ahead of Tim''.

"But this day, I remember him taking a dropout and chasing hard,'' the old man recalls. "The ball went about 45m, bounced once and somehow Tim was there to pick it up. But just as he went to take off upfield this kid from Kincumber ankle-tapped him ...''

And so the tiny Sharkies halfback stumbled forward. Unable to find his balance, his feet or see that defender closing, closing, clos ... THWACK.

"Yeah, knees in the head,'' says Parramatta legend Steve Ella, whose son Bryan was also playing for the Sharks. "The game was stopped, then called off. It wasn't pretty.''

 

[Tiger_Watto]

ouch… I think Tim played his best game for the Tigers in Round 1\. Round 2 was probably his worst...

And on Friday, he was nowhere. The Team won so it must of been that formula that Moltz at 7 and we always win...

LOL

 

[Guest]

He did set up Ayshford's try…But I expect he will improve on that game once he settles at 7\. This is where Sheens is hurting his game, by shifting him between fullback and halfback. It needs to be one or the other, and after Ryan's effort at the back last week, I'd be keeping him at fullback and let Moltzen work on his combination with Benji.

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Moltzen 7

for years to come.