Zac Cini #243

@balmain-boy said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357964) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

So he defused 99% of bombs in KOE. And diffused everything last week no problems too. One game he got nervous after being in the spotlight. You'd have to be a psychopath to drop him, would have a major impact on his confidence.

Kepaoa dropped many bombs and still kept getting picked over the past year. Talau has also survived numerous poor games, as has Roberts. Cini should most definitely get another game to make amends, let's see how he faces adversity. Most of our players to into their shell and are mentally weak, let's eeeywhat this kid is made of. We need stronger characters in our squad.

Hopefully he'll be taking 1000 bombs in Training this week too to help calm the nerves too.

Agree with this.

Despite those bombs, I actually think he’s our most defensively sound winger.

Doesn’t rush in etc.

Needs another shot in the big time.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.
 
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

That's exactly how you destroy the confidence of every player in the backline, an and destroy and chemistry/combinations between players
 
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

How many got caught out last night? Howe many could you drop?
 
Didn’t really rate this guy in reggies and despite the hype last week don’t think he is first grade material. When he made that break last week he was as slow as a prop and starting running in quick sand after about 15metres. His runs out of our own end make maximum 2 metres. He can’t catch a high ball. Our deficiencies in the outside backs needs to be addressed by recruitment ASAP.
 
@gallagher said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358042) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

How many got caught out last night? Howe many could you drop?

Unfortunately we only have a top 30 (28 or 29 at the moment) and the depth and quality is pretty questionable.
 
@hank37w said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358059) said:
@gallagher said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358042) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

How many got caught out last night? Howe many could you drop?

Unfortunately we only have a top 30 (28 or 29 at the moment) and the depth and quality is pretty questionable.

Better depth than a lot of teams
 
@gallagher said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358042) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

How many got caught out last night? Howe many could you drop?

Cini to me is the only one that should get dropped and that is because he was really poor. Other players could be dropped but mainly too try other options. Brooks probably fits the second category.
 
@cochise said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358062) said:
@hank37w said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358059) said:
@gallagher said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358042) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

How many got caught out last night? Howe many could you drop?

Unfortunately we only have a top 30 (28 or 29 at the moment) and the depth and quality is pretty questionable.

Better depth than a lot of teams

We are doing well in reserve grade.
 
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358119) said:
@cochise said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358062) said:
@hank37w said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358059) said:
@gallagher said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358042) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

How many got caught out last night? Howe many could you drop?

Unfortunately we only have a top 30 (28 or 29 at the moment) and the depth and quality is pretty questionable.

Better depth than a lot of teams

We are doing well in reserve grade.

Exactly
 
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358118) said:
@gallagher said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358042) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

How many got caught out last night? Howe many could you drop?

Cini to me is the only one that should get dropped and that is because he was really poor. Other players could be dropped but mainly too try other options. Brooks probably fits the second category.

I wouldn’t drop Cini, I’d give him a chance to redeem himself. If he has another shocker then a red line across his file.
 
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358118) said:
@gallagher said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358042) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

How many got caught out last night? Howe many could you drop?

Cini to me is the only one that should get dropped and that is because he was really poor. Other players could be dropped but mainly too try other options. Brooks probably fits the second category.

I'm with you on dropping players but I
wouldn't know where to stop after last night.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358041) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

That's exactly how you destroy the confidence of every player in the backline, an and destroy and chemistry/combinations between players

Lots of points here.

Does confidence have any impact on performance or does performance impact confidence ? My take is that any player who gets dropped and then loses all confidence and cannot play to a high level again isn't a first grader.

As for chemistry and combinations I agree with you but we are losing anyway.

I'm also not stating drop every single player. I'm just stating when they get caught out like Cini was. That was extreme and not a little stuff up.

He needs to work on aspects of his game. He doesn't offer enough to accept his shortcomings especially in a position like winger.

it's about becoming a technically better player without the pressure of performing in first grade.
 
@gallagher said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358125) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358118) said:
@gallagher said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358042) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

How many got caught out last night? Howe many could you drop?

Cini to me is the only one that should get dropped and that is because he was really poor. Other players could be dropped but mainly too try other options. Brooks probably fits the second category.

I'm with you on dropping players but I
wouldn't know where to stop after last night.


You win.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Zac Cini](/post/1356950) said:
Hope he comes back from that better. As his first game suggested he is far better than that.

According to Madge everyone is better than that ...but we rarely see it

The Gus quote comes to mind .....Lifetime to prepare for your debut .....7 days for game 2
 
I saw enough of him in his first game to give him a go. Although he had a lot of mistakes in his second game, I'd still give pick him in firsts, give him some more chances, hopefully he can get over the nerves.

It's not like his mistakes has lost us a premiership chance, may as well stick with him and see if he comes good.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357511) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

He won’t be there next week ..
Talau will be back ..

Madge intimated he won't be there next week in the post-match conference.
 
@willow said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358182) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357511) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

He won’t be there next week ..
Talau will be back ..

Madge intimated he won't be there next week in the post-match conference.

Cini or Talau?
 
@mike said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358122) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358118) said:
@gallagher said in [Zac Cini](/post/1358042) said:
@earl said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357991) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Zac Cini](/post/1357503) said:
IMO you can NOT pick him next week,

He will be bombed into the stone age immediately. You can so "so what, he gets a chance to make up for it"...but he had that chance after the 3rd or fourth chance today.

Let him catch bombs for a few weeks in KOE. We can not afford that in first grade.

I totally agree. We need to rotate players until they don't get caught out. If they get caught out drop them and tell them they have to learn in reserve grade. Fix the problem and perform in reserve grade and you will get another chance.

How many got caught out last night? Howe many could you drop?

Cini to me is the only one that should get dropped and that is because he was really poor. Other players could be dropped but mainly too try other options. Brooks probably fits the second category.

I wouldn’t drop Cini, I’d give him a chance to redeem himself. If he has another shocker then a red line across his file.


How many games are you prepared to lose to make someone feel good about themselves?
 
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