Russian invasion of Ukraine

Don’t like the like function here, more appropriate to be agree with. Crappy topic wish it was never created, but now here to stay for a long while.
 
Wildcat777 said:
Yes true. America is weak atm, that’s a given. America don’t have the gonads to do anything. Looks like Communism is growing again. And the West, dictated by the minorities will just report, make online statements and put their heads in the sand. Lets see how this pans out, will get much worse before it gets better. Some scary times ahead, we have to be weary of Hitler 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0. And it’s a obvious who these 3 are.
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Yep, democracy has a real challenge on its hands with the rise of social media, creating a forum for whack jobs to have louder and louder voices.
 
trentrunciman said:
Look we don’t need to get into semantics but you alluded to the fact more “invasions”are possible.

I’ve actually spent time in Bratislava and Budapest and there is no way in hell anything going down there. End of story man. No more Malding
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OK, sounds like we're done here. While the discourse has remained civil, I disagree with you vehemently. Not sure who Malding is but I might counter with ... no more Chamberlainism.
 
Wildcat777 said:
Yes true. America is weak atm, that’s a given. America don’t have the gonads to do anything. Looks like Communism is growing again. And the West, dictated by the minorities will just report, make online statements and put their heads in the sand. Lets see how this pans out, will get much worse before it gets better. Some scary times ahead, we have to be weary of Hitler 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0. And it’s a obvious who these 3 are.
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When you talk about communism i assume you mean China because Russia has not been a communist country for many years.Russia has never known real democracy from the days of the Tsar through the Soviet Union to what is basically a dictator (Putin) today.
I actually have a great deal of empathy for the Russian people as they have never had much of a say in the direction in which their country goes.Putin just has the opposition suppressed as much as he can
 
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trentrunciman said:
The CMC was different to the current situation. Jack inherited the BOP fiasco from Dulles and the CIA and was livid after it. He organised the Cuban Study group which included Bobby. The Cubans were worried about further invasions so they had help from Krushev and installed a missle site for a preemptive strike. Have a read of Bobby’s 13 days. Wonderful insight about how Bobby was able to talk to Dobryn and vice Versa In diplomacy. A big reason why I work in public service now.

This situation in Ukraine is everything to do with The Ukrainian Govt and it’s blantant corruption. Playing wacked geopolitics with wanting to join NATO etc they’ve been propped up by the US for years now. Few days ago I noticed the Ukraine acknowledged the Minsk agreement. Sorry mate but too late.

It’s over for the Ukraine. Was nice to see the fireworks and celebrations in Donetsk (no media mention of that here in the west of course) etc yesterday. Those poor people on the border have been shelled by Ukrainian forces for the past 8 years. Glad they have peace now they can reunite as majority are ethnically Russian.
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The shelling over the last 8 years has hardly been one way. Ukraine has had every right to try to defend its borders. Russian speaking Ukrainians have been at the forefront of those trying to defend Ukraine's sovereignty from the Moscow backed rebels this whole time.
There was zero chance that Ukraine was going to be joining NATO any time soon, it is a joke to use this as justification for an invasion.
 
trentrunciman said:
Look we don’t need to get into semantics but you alluded to the fact more “invasions”are possible.

I’ve actually spent time in Bratislava and Budapest and there is no way in hell anything going down there. End of story man. No more Malding
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Maybe not Bratislava and Budapest, but if I was in Estonia or Moldova I would definitely be worried given you and others have already used the presence of 'ethnic Russians' as justification for invasion.
 
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Wildcat777 said:
Yes true. America is weak atm, that’s a given. America don’t have the gonads to do anything. Looks like Communism is growing again. And the West, dictated by the minorities will just report, make online statements and put their heads in the sand. Lets see how this pans out, will get much worse before it gets better. Some scary times ahead, we have to be weary of Hitler 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0. And it’s a obvious who these 3 are.
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Communism is dead. China and Russia are completely capitalist.
 
It's all wrong, including our country profiting on the back of the bombarded sick and starving in Yemen by selling military equipment to the Saudis.

Britain is probably the worst as they have long been a haven for dark Russian money and the response from their PM in parliament this week has been laughable, apart from the lies.
 
rihannafan1 said:
Communism is dead. China and Russia are completely capitalist.
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China is not 'completely capitalist', it is a command economy. There had of course been economic liberalisation from Deng Xiaoping onwards, to the extent that there was a proliferation of billionaires, but under Xi Jinping this is increasingly being wound back. Wherever the market is considered a threat to the Party, it is kept in check.
 
formerguest said:
That is totally ridiculous and particularly so on the back of the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon presidency, with some in the GOP and on FOX supporting Russia.
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As I recall Putin invaded when Obama was in the Oval Office and got slapped with a feather. So why wouldn’t he wait for his next opportunity.
The Ruble has spiked , but the Moscow index is off nearly 50%, wiping $150b of their exchange.
 
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