Mental Health Discussion

[Cobarcats]

Unless your a trained professional who deals in mental health and behavioural issues it's hard to convince a person they have issues, especially when they either refuse to believe they have issues or just dont want to change and enjoy confrontation.

 

[upthetigers]

Unfortunately there is not much that can be done unless the person is a danger to themselves or other people.

I was in complete denial until mental health professionals and the police got involved.

 

[Demps]

Unfortunately there is not much that can be done unless the person is a danger to themselves or other people.

I was in complete denial until mental health professionals and the police got involved.

This is it...

There's no forcing anyone to do anything.
Unless they're under some medical guardianship or independently choose to seek help.

@innsaneink the best you can do, is offer them your support and encourage them to reach out to appropriate services... check in with them.

 

[tony soprano]

Any ideas on how to convince.or force someone to see a mental health professional?
Bringing up the issue and ensuing issues with the person in question only results in aggressive arguing and dismissiveness
Someone close is not coping well, and it's taking its toll on the rest of us

Difficult one, in those cases most of the time they'd see a GP and be prescribed antidepressants and just take the pills instead of speaking with someone.

First step would be convince them to speak to their GP about it, just suggest not making a big deal about with them mention it's very common.

 

[Demps]

Difficult one, in those cases most of the time they'd see a GP and be prescribed antidepressants and just take the pills instead of speaking with someone.

First step would be convince them to speak to their GP about it, just suggest not making a big deal about with them mention it's very common.

GP doesn't prescribe the medications.
Probably just a referral to a psychiatrist, who then MAY prescribe the medication.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I have learnt so much about people since this cursed pandemic as well as myself...
Its fantastic to see other humans helping others through dire times and a simple conversation and some compassion goes a long way in helping some one become more grounded and less anxious during depressing times..
I have also seen people belittle others for not having the same point of view as their own,an eg of this was at the supermarket a couple of months ago,an individual was publicly scorned for not being vaxxed,they were related,cousins I think...the point being,if he wasnt vaxxed so be it,what good is scorning him in public and what effect other than pure embarassment could that have on the individual...does he go home and keep thinking,if I dont get the vax will I no longer be accepted within the family as a whole,am I a bad person for chosing my own health...
situations go both way...I have learnt that compassion and thoughtfulness as well as love and a sensible approach to people of varying opinions goes along way...
I have been involved in many arguments on this forum as far as opinions go,whether Im wrong or right the discussions have many different outcomes...BUT they are discussions..
When personal attacks lead to despise or dislike,then we need to stop and think about the people that are being attacked...to be honest for eg I know many on here personally and I consider them friends,we dont always agree on things,move on and have a great day...
The really bad thing is when some one such as the supermarket incident happens,then we dont know what that scorning can lead to...people have been mentally shattered because of loss of jobs,divorce,suicides and depression in general..
In times such as these we should become more understanding,sympathetic and comforting other than critical...none of us know what really can set someone off onto a course of mental destruction,it maybe a simple word, gesture or action..
I will leave you with these words..."We are all Gods children"with varying thoughts,likes,dislikes and personalities,if we were all exactly the same,how boring that would be...

Works the other way too. Can recall half a dozen occasions since mask mandates have been lifted when people have made snide remarks about me choosing to continue wearing a mask.

 

[tony soprano]

GP doesn't prescribe the medications.
Probably just a referral to a psychiatrist, who then MAY prescribe the medication.

They do perscribe medication.

 

[Demps]

They do perscribe medication.

Yeah of course they do....

In this situation though they will refer you to a psychiatrist...

Psychiatrist then will charter medications if needed and the GP will provide the scripts.

All a process and that's how it works my man.

Most GPs have the signs up saying they don't prescribe anti depressants and others like codeine related things.

 

[tony soprano]

Yeah of course they do....

In this situation though they will refer you to a psychiatrist...

Psychiatrist then will charter medications if needed and the GP will provide the scripts.

All a process and that's how it works my man.

Most GPs have the signs up saying they don't prescribe anti depressants and others like codeine related things.

Incorrect, know a few people the get prescribed antidepressants from their GP.

 

[upthetigers]

Any ideas on how to convince.or force someone to see a mental health professional?
Bringing up the issue and ensuing issues with the person in question only results in aggressive arguing and dismissiveness
Someone close is not coping well, and it's taking its toll on the rest of us

Medication can help tremendously. I was suicidal following the diagnosis always thinking why me? as soon as I started taking Zoloft I just accepted it and moved on with my life. It can take several different medications to find the right one.

 

[Demps]

Incorrect, know a few people the get prescribed antidepressants from their GP.

Might be certain exceptions to the rule depending on circumstances.

Just from my observations, working in the field, almost every time a GP kinda opts to not get involved as there is certain risks involved in chartering medications so they leave it up to the psychiatrists.

Does the referral, mental health care plan and then the psychiatrist visits take place and the medication is worked out from there, in collaboration with the GP who will follow the psychiatrists advice and provide the scripts.

This is the procedure I've seen countless times but yeah not aware of the people you know so could be a possibility...

 

[tony soprano]

Mental health important guys, remember. Play your part. Be respectful to others and watch your habits.

That being said good night all I am going off line to read a book.

 

[Demps]

Medication can help tremendously. I was suicidal following the diagnosis always thinking why me? as soon as I started taking Zoloft I just accepted it and moved on with my life. It can take several different medications to find the right one.

For the sake of the discussion, if you're open to share....

Medication prescribed by GP or psychiatrist?

 

[upthetigers]

For the sake of the discussion, if you're open to share....

Medication prescribed by GP or psychiatrist?

GP has always referred me to a psych

 

[Cobarcats]

For the sake of the discussion, if you're open to share....

Medication prescribed by GP or psychiatrist?

A lot people think a GP can issue “mood altering meds but that comes under the realm if a psychiatrist [GP referral]. It was my 3rd medication trial Efexor that sorted my moods out.
A psychologist is the classic couch discussion therapy. The two specialists together are essential in sorting out ones issues.
The first hurdle is to recognise you have a problem, but believe me the second hurdle of actually seing a specialist is far less of a hurdle and eventualy you will be walking normally.
Recognise, admit, seek, accept, engage,
re-evaluate

 

[Demps]

A lot people think a GP can issue “mood altering meds but that comes under the realm if a psychiatrist [GP referral]. It was my 3rd medication trial Efexor that sorted my moods out.
A psychologist is the classic couch discussion therapy. The two specialists together are essential in sorting out ones issues.
The first hurdle is to recognise you have a problem, but believe me the second hurdle of actually seing a specialist is far less of a hurdle and eventualy you will be walking normally.
Recognise, admit, seek, accept, engage,
re-evaluate

True man, true....

You're doing well by the sounds of it mate and your contribution to this forum isn't unnoticed.

A lot of wisdom in your posts.

 

[coivtny]

A lot people think a GP can issue “mood altering meds but that comes under the realm if a psychiatrist [GP referral]. It was my 3rd medication trial Efexor that sorted my moods out.
A psychologist is the classic couch discussion therapy. The two specialists together are essential in sorting out ones issues.
The first hurdle is to recognise you have a problem, but believe me the second hurdle of actually seing a specialist is far less of a hurdle and eventualy you will be walking normally.
Recognise, admit, seek, accept, engage,
re-evaluate

Snap mate. Effexor 75mg is my drug of choice. It works well for me.

 

[Cobarcats]

True man, true....

You're doing well by the sounds of it mate and your contribution to this forum isn't unnoticed.

A lot of wisdom in your posts.

Nice to hear mate, likewise for your varied sporting knowlege. Until i got on this forum i thought UFC was opposition to KFC 🤣

 

[Demps]

Nice to hear mate, likewise for your varied sporting knowlege. Until i got on this forum i thought UFC was opposition to KFC 🤣

Haha, I'm a combat sports enthusiast.
😅😂

 

[Cobarcats]

Incorrect, know a few people the get prescribed antidepressants from their GP.

Tony my understanding of being subscribed antidepressants and mood altering meds by a GP are usually up to a certain strength then if levels have to be increased the are referred to a psychiatrist. Some GP's have a background in mental health and are successful in treating their patients but because there are different medical conditions that certain drugs will work and some won't, most GP will refer you to a psychiatrist who specialises in this field.