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something from Wests Tiger FB page……

Regarding the post below about some rumbling in the club.
Scott Woodward handed in his own resignation last week to the Tigers. He came from the Storm system, and has been with us since 2019. He has instrumentally played hardball in turning recruitment policy around and not allowing to pay overs for players in desperate times. It has taken him 3 years to turn our cap into a positive, he has been a miracle maker.
He put forward from the beginning of his tenure, that his data analytics of each player in the NRL, NSW Cup, JFlegg, SG Ball, H Matt’s is what you recruit from, and the worth every player is, is based on their data. He has been holding the club accountable over the years to not go against this. The moneyball approach I call it. When the club has been desperate to recruit, Scott will at times say no, as it doesn’t match up to his mathematical data analytics. He has taken the hard approach and has won us great things in the background (salary cap fixed for one)

He spends 80 hours a week watching every game for all clubs as above, and produces data- that’s massive!!!!

At a few games, he has called the game to me. With his knowledge of analysis, he would tell me that through data, a try should happen within the next 4 minutes because of what happened previously. Unbelievable!! He was correct.

He was not pushed out of the club. It was his choice to move on.

He is a great friend of mine and we see each other weekly. He will be sorely missed at the club, he is a very clever cookie.
Also
Here is the talent that he Identified personally that came to the club.
there's every chance Woodward believes his work is done and it's time to move on. cap in good shape, lower grades in a great position and Sheens at the helm. there's every chance his player identification system is still being utilised at the club even though he's not here, fairly sure that's the case with Melbourne.
 
there's every chance Woodward believes his work is done and it's time to move on. cap in good shape, lower grades in a great position and Sheens at the helm. there's every chance his player identification system is still being utilised at the club even though he's not here, fairly sure that's the case with Melbourne.

Lower down on one of those threads, he actually responded to confirm he left on good terms - if he didn't agree with what was posted he would have corrected it.
 

Now this is Shock News that nobody going to do anything about​

Fox Sports Report​

NRL club bosses’ shock claim on teams rorting the salary cap​

Seventy per cent of NRL club bosses believe rival teams use illegal third-party deals to flaunt the competition’s salary cap system.

According to a Sydney Morning Herald survey of 23 chief executives and chairmen who responded, there was a general consensus illegal third-party agreements were being used by clubs to gain an advantage.

“The NRL have done a good job cleaning up a lot of the confusion and irregularities around third-party agreements,” an anonymous boss told the Sydney Morning Herald.

But many clubs believe that there are still instances where a club will operate outside the TPA rules to secure income for a player. That sort of assistance can make a big difference in signing or keeping a player.”

Since 2017, the third-party agreement market reduced from $8.2 million to $4.2 million in 2021.

The dealings are still perceived as a problem within NRL clubs, even after the organisation cracked down on third-party deals following the Eels salary cap scandal in 2016.

Arm-length” agreements also significantly reduced from $4.6 million in 2017 to $1.5 million in 2021, with players making less appearances in the last few years due to Covid-19.

Australia


“Equalising the competition to ensure that salary cap rorting does not impact results is critical,” another anonymous boss said.

“Clubs should compete on a level playing field.”

In 2018, the Storm had the most private sector “arm-length” agreements of any team, with more than $1 million of third-party agreements for the big three of Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk and Cameron Smith.

The reduction in these agreements could be due to the retirement of a number of the NRL’s stars as well as a competition wide crackdown.


In 2019 the Roosters recorded only $69,000 in third-party agreements but stars such as Cronk and James Tedesco benefited from whole game sponsorships not included in the team-by-team breakdown.

Again the Storm led the competition in 2019 for third-party agreements with the Broncos ($350,000), Panthers ($233,000), Sharks ($212,000) and Rabbitohs ($199,000) not far behind.

“We have increased surveillance and education in this area,” Abdo said to the Herald.

“The NRL salary cap and integrity team will always take action if any potential breaches are reported or detected.”

“We complete regular audits. Clubs, players and agents are aware and educated about our rules. If the rules are breached we will take strong action as we have done in the past.”

Thou
something from Wests Tiger FB page……

Regarding the post below about some rumbling in the club.
Scott Woodward handed in his own resignation last week to the Tigers. He came from the Storm system, and has been with us since 2019. He has instrumentally played hardball in turning recruitment policy around and not allowing to pay overs for players in desperate times. It has taken him 3 years to turn our cap into a positive, he has been a miracle maker.
He put forward from the beginning of his tenure, that his data analytics of each player in the NRL, NSW Cup, JFlegg, SG Ball, H Matt’s is what you recruit from, and the worth every player is, is based on their data. He has been holding the club accountable over the years to not go against this. The moneyball approach I call it. When the club has been desperate to recruit, Scott will at times say no, as it doesn’t match up to his mathematical data analytics. He has taken the hard approach and has won us great things in the background (salary cap fixed for one)

He spends 80 hours a week watching every game for all clubs as above, and produces data- that’s massive!!!!

At a few games, he has called the game to me. With his knowledge of analysis, he would tell me that through data, a try should happen within the next 4 minutes because of what happened previously. Unbelievable!! He was correct.

He was not pushed out of the club. It was his choice to move on.

He is a great friend of mine and we see each other weekly. He will be sorely missed at the club, he is a very clever cookie.
Also
Here is the talent that he Identified personally that came to the club.
View attachment 291

Tomato tomarto
 
That’s another thing that’s funny about it. Woods signed under the assumption that the other two would follow. He was left like a shag on a rock.
He signed to play with his mate Klemmer too, but then klemmer wanted out of the dogs that same year
 
something from Wests Tiger FB page……

Regarding the post below about some rumbling in the club.
Scott Woodward handed in his own resignation last week to the Tigers. He came from the Storm system, and has been with us since 2019. He has instrumentally played hardball in turning recruitment policy around and not allowing to pay overs for players in desperate times. It has taken him 3 years to turn our cap into a positive, he has been a miracle maker.
He put forward from the beginning of his tenure, that his data analytics of each player in the NRL, NSW Cup, JFlegg, SG Ball, H Matt’s is what you recruit from, and the worth every player is, is based on their data. He has been holding the club accountable over the years to not go against this. The moneyball approach I call it. When the club has been desperate to recruit, Scott will at times say no, as it doesn’t match up to his mathematical data analytics. He has taken the hard approach and has won us great things in the background (salary cap fixed for one)

He spends 80 hours a week watching every game for all clubs as above, and produces data- that’s massive!!!!

At a few games, he has called the game to me. With his knowledge of analysis, he would tell me that through data, a try should happen within the next 4 minutes because of what happened previously. Unbelievable!! He was correct.

He was not pushed out of the club. It was his choice to move on.

He is a great friend of mine and we see each other weekly. He will be sorely missed at the club, he is a very clever cookie.
Also
Here is the talent that he Identified personally that came to the club.
View attachment 291
best of luck 2 him,Cboys need him
 
**Rothfield Warning and general health warning**

From today's Daily Telegraph (apologies if it has been posted elsewhere)

At the other end of the scale teams like the Wests Tigers have to pay way ‘overs’. They have Luke Brooks on $900,000 yet we suggest he’s worth more like $550,000. James Tamou is on close to $800,000 but is no longer in that big-money league.

I'd be disgusted if Tamou is on $800k.

He is worth much more than that going by last year's efforts. Bathrobe models don't come cheap.
 
I have had the club (Tigers) tell me they are usually wildly inaccurate. Their comment was "unless you hear it publicly directly from us or from the player, assume it's not true, because it usually isn't".

Yeah, one of those things you never know who to believe
 
hope we out grow him,your in the centers or move on,length of contract,not done homeworkon that
Who, Douiehi?
Bit harsh on him IMO, he was one of our best (if not the best) last season while he was playing 5/8. I think the onus is more on Brooks myself, if he doesn't play well this season I'd be moving him on, Hastings to 7 and Douiehi to 6. Douiehi upheld his side of the bargain.last year with his performances.
 
something from Wests Tiger FB page……

Regarding the post below about some rumbling in the club.
Scott Woodward handed in his own resignation last week to the Tigers. He came from the Storm system, and has been with us since 2019. He has instrumentally played hardball in turning recruitment policy around and not allowing to pay overs for players in desperate times. It has taken him 3 years to turn our cap into a positive, he has been a miracle maker.
He put forward from the beginning of his tenure, that his data analytics of each player in the NRL, NSW Cup, JFlegg, SG Ball, H Matt’s is what you recruit from, and the worth every player is, is based on their data. He has been holding the club accountable over the years to not go against this. The moneyball approach I call it. When the club has been desperate to recruit, Scott will at times say no, as it doesn’t match up to his mathematical data analytics. He has taken the hard approach and has won us great things in the background (salary cap fixed for one)

He spends 80 hours a week watching every game for all clubs as above, and produces data- that’s massive!!!!

At a few games, he has called the game to me. With his knowledge of analysis, he would tell me that through data, a try should happen within the next 4 minutes because of what happened previously. Unbelievable!! He was correct.

He was not pushed out of the club. It was his choice to move on.

He is a great friend of mine and we see each other weekly. He will be sorely missed at the club, he is a very clever cookie.
Also
Here is the talent that he Identified personally that came to the club.
View attachment 291
Some bloke gives his mate a wrap. It's pretty easy to manage your cap when all you recruit is blokes that have barely played 1st grade.
 
Obviously Slothfield is priming for when the Sharks lose Nikora or Pele - we have x amount in y players thats how the Tigers can do it.

Despite the fact we have been doing excellent cap management over the last 2-3yrs to position ourselves to make a splash over the next 2-3yrs in a big way whilst being in a great position to rival others offers for the very good young talent coming through
For years not signing expensive free agents was our problem, now we are the problem is we're paying overs. I really try not to believe in bias among the media, refs, comp or whatever - 99 times out of 100 it's just fans moaning. But with Rothfield it's just vindictive. I wonder whether he reckons the first team kicked out of Sydney is inevitably going to be the Sharks or Tigers and he's therefore made it his life's mission to make sure it's us. He should have been sacked over the Eddie Hayson stuff, how he still has a job let alone any credibility in the game is beyond me.
 
I would have taken him back over Tamou, he did burn some bridges but i think that was more through stupidity than malice. I can understand the club wanting to move forward though and that was probably the best case for us. His career went backwards fast after he left, he obviously realised just a little too late.

I'm glad he didn't come back. What he, Moses and Tedesco planned with the Bulldogs was low. And to look for a return at the end of his career was weak. Newsflash: if you'd stayed instead of dogging it, you wouldn't

Expect to see Sione Fainu in tigers colours in the next fortnight

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FWIW just saw this on Twitter
Seems like one of the better Manly juniors.
 
Who, Douiehi?
Bit harsh on him IMO, he was one of our best (if not the best) last season while he was playing 5/8. I think the onus is more on Brooks myself, if he doesn't play well this season I'd be moving him on, Hastings to 7 and Douiehi to 6. Douiehi upheld his side of the bargain.last year with his performances.
he could be our next wall of fame;r,thats up2 him.its Brooks last stand,surely.i think he;s better at center,and not in a situation when he is fit 2 dictate were he plays
 

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