Michael Maguire leaves club

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I want to keep Madge but if he were to get the flick then Ciraldo would be my first choice. BUT come on guys, this feels like the typical NRL tabloid media schtick. The rumours start, usually as a suggestion. Then build and build from 360 to forums to Channel 9 to Sporting News and back around again.
All baseless crap building off of each other and then just when everyone is convinced....Ciraldo says he was never interested and it is all "The tigers missed another one, what a mess!"
 
Swordy said:
If that is true - it means Ciraldo sees strength in our position in the future. And if that's the case, why are we sacking the current coach?

We have waited over an extended period to create a platform from which to launch greatness, got rid of 15 years of baggage, and the bloke close to the centre of it gets punted?
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What it means is some people in the media are prepared to take a punt and "call it" on Madge, without specific knowledge, because there are no repercussions if the media get it wrong.

As to why replace Madge - that one is easier to explain. Even if you subscribe to the idea that Madge is heavily responsible for a brighter future at the club, the reality is he has had 4 years of bad results to get there. He cannot afford another 6-month period of 3 wins 9 losses.

If we were to assume that a new coach would also be subject to a rough introduction period, they would at least be granted some grace by media and fans. So in this example, Madge might well be out on his arse with another 3W 9L half-season, whereas a new coach would be forgiven (at least for a period) for what they've inherited.

Personally I have a hunch this is the same situation as last year - Tigers are canvassing possible replacements, but won't axe Madge unless they find someone they want to take on. That is why the media is getting a sniff of possible replacement candidates, without knowing the specifics, because Tigers might well be asking around.

But unlike Bulldogs, we won't be stupid enough to sack the current coach without an appropriate replacement lined up. Paws likes to debate that "lack of replacement is not an argument for retaining incumbent" (paraphrased), but I strongly strongly disagree. "Better the devil you know" as they say.
 
Canberratiger said:
I want to keep Madge but if he were to get the flick then Ciraldo would be my first choice. BUT come on guys, this feels like the typical NRL tabloid media schtick. The rumours start, usually as a suggestion. Then build and build from 360 to forums to Channel 9 to Sporting News and back around again.
All baseless crap building off of each other and then just when everyone is convinced....Ciraldo says he was never interested and it is all "The tigers missed another one, what a mess!"
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As long as mug punters don't say "we missed out on another one" when there is no actual evidence Tigers ever made an approach to that person.

It's like you cannot even mention potential recruitment targets, without getting criticised if that brainstorming doesn't become a reality.
 
Merlot said:
Madge wont be going anywhere,if he did,imo Flanno is the only personality that will not 2b chewed up by this club
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I totally agree with this and would love to see someone like Payten at the club tbh. Who understands the Wests Tigers and is already having some success at NRL level. He's handled all negative headlines quite well considering the pressure he was faced with.
Also, feel there's nothing wrong with changing the course and going another direction however it makes me uncomfortable to read certain details (re: the review) being divulged on a footy forum.
What a club, still can't run a tight ship. It's any wonder why all MSM "pick on us".
 
jirskyr said:
As long as mug punters don't say "we missed out on another one" when there is no actual evidence Tigers ever made an approach to that person.

It's like you cannot even mention potential recruitment targets, without getting criticised if that brainstorming doesn't become a reality.
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Yeah but it starts with the journos. They start the rumour and then it becomes the narrative. Then the mugs pick it up too. One big cycle of BS
 
BAGNF05 said:
I’ll tell you one thing Cobar, I am sure Madge doesn’t love some of these duds.
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You can see has passion for the club. I think he is frustrated because he can see their potential and their not playing anywhere near that.
It's annoying when people say Madge has lost touch with the game.....well if that's the case, how come we go there and play a complete game like those wins against Souths and co. Then turn up next week and be flat.
Is that the coaches fault. He gives the players the tools to win only to have the players to act like tools.
I watched the game again last night and some of the effort areas were not even jersey flegg std. It's EFFORT or lack there of.
The more I think of Noffas indiscretion the more I think of how that was a kick in the guts to madge when his career is on the line, now let's sack him and really stick the boot in.
 
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Cobarcats said:
You can see has passion for the club. I think he is frustrated because he can see their potential and their not playing anywhere near that.
It's annoying when people say Madge has lost touch with the game.....well if that's the case, how come we go there and play a complete game like those wins against Souths and co. Then turn up next week and be flat.
Is that the coaches fault. He gives the players the tools to win only to have the players to act like tools.
I watched the game again last night and some of the effort areas were not even jersey flegg std. It's EFFORT or lack there of.
The more I think of Noffas indiscretion the more I think of how that was a kick in the guts to madge when his career is on the line, now let's sack him and really stick the boot in.
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Hopefully Nof isn’t being groomed by the CEO.

Some on here would call it ‘doing his job’. Lol
 
Cobarcats said:
You can see has passion for the club. I think he is frustrated because he can see their potential and their not playing anywhere near that.
It's annoying when people say Madge has lost touch with the game.....well if that's the case, how come we go there and play a complete game like those wins against Souths and co. Then turn up next week and be flat.
Is that the coaches fault. He gives the players the tools to win only to have the players to act like tools.
I watched the game again last night and some of the effort areas were not even jersey flegg std. It's EFFORT or lack there of.
The more I think of Noffas indiscretion the more I think of how that was a kick in the guts to madge when his career is on the line, now let's sack him and really stick the boot in.
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Noffo's complete lack of thought process completely shows what sort of problems are embedded in the club.If one of the most high profile juniors (and possible favourites of the chairman )can do what he supposedly did just how deep is the level of apathy in the playing group?
Hopefully he returns to the fold smarter and with a more positive attitude
 
TieDye said:
Hopefully Nof isn’t being groomed by the CEO.

Some on here would call it ‘doing his job’. Lol
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Madge isn't walking away. He fits all the criteria we would want from a coach except 1 thing....winning.
He can't play for them so the onus is on the players to deliver.
Give Madge the roster he deserves.
Does anyone think we wouldn't have success under Madge if next year we suddenly had Papa, Kori, Angus, Munster and Tedesco to add to our best players??
 
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TYGA said:
We are a struggling team because we abandoned junior development years ago.
The rot started with back ended deals in 2012, the subsequent collapse of Balmain, incompetent directors appointed etc. Attracting marquee talent has gotten the bulldogs and Titans far.
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Not sure about that TBH. Look at all of our juniors that we've brought into 1st grade in the last 3 or 4 years. None of them have been any good. Time for us to go the other route and handpick a few quality players we need.
 
Cobarcats said:
You can't get a definitive answer because of delays, like the weather.
It reminds me when my misses asks me what time will I be home from the pub.
I say "about half past"
She says "half past what"
I say "exactly"
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😍
 
jadtiger said:
Noffo's complete lack of thought process completely shows what sort of problems are embedded in the club.If one of the most high profile juniors (and possible favourites of the chairman )can do what he supposedly did just how deep is the level of apathy in the playing group?
Hopefully he returns to the fold smarter and with a more positive attitude
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I haven't heard what Noffo supposedly did @jadtiger
 
Cobarcats said:
You can see has passion for the club. I think he is frustrated because he can see their potential and their not playing anywhere near that.
It's annoying when people say Madge has lost touch with the game.....well if that's the case, how come we go there and play a complete game like those wins against Souths and co. Then turn up next week and be flat.
Is that the coaches fault. He gives the players the tools to win only to have the players to act like tools.
I watched the game again last night and some of the effort areas were not even jersey flegg std. It's EFFORT or lack there of.
The more I think of Noffas indiscretion the more I think of how that was a kick in the guts to madge when his career is on the line, now let's sack him and really stick the boot in.
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The players do what they’re asked and not 1% more. Occasionally just doing what you’re asked gets you a win. Not that often though. We need professionals on our roster who don’t need a Madge spray to get them motivated.
 
BAGNF05 said:
You mean his premierships at strong clubs?? Oh no you’re talking about his time coaching the basket case club with the dud list.
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Yeah, I was more talking about 2016,17 when he missed the 8 with South's with a gun side and then 19,20,21 and 22 with us.
Has the Roster got worse in 4 years, the results have?
 
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