Luciano Leilua

momo_amp_medo said:
I think that’s funny.
LL and his agent again asked, for the third time this year, to be released immediately.
Cowboys confirmed their interest.
WT jumped in and got rid of him as they probably realised that’s the best chance to get some savings out of the deadbeat.
Anyone putting crap on WT about it must be brain dead.
Love it!
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If the paper work hasn’t been done it’s not official . And our Chair is a lawyer. Apparently.
 
momo_amp_medo said:
I’ll spell it out.
You're kidding that anyone would even contemplate such an arrangement.
Sheens has been around Rugby League decisions most his life …. give him some credit please before contemplating that he would take one like that.
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It's not just Sheen's there too. Remember Lee butting in and giving nofa another year and more money? This hierarchy has precedence of making head scratching decisions.
Still can't understand why we didn't go after a young gun from up there in recompense.
 
Strongee said:
Lol to Lucy . He’s asked for the release and now he’s about to go unpaid until november 1st.
the release is from his playing contract , the tigers don’t have any Responsibility over whether the cowboys have the coin available to pay him this season.
that’s on lucianos manager . If there was some compensation or player swap sure , but he was just granted a straight release .
too bad so sad . He would no longer be employed here .
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Agree 100%... It's not our job to make sure Cows are ready it's his Manager.
Of course the Media will blame us like they did yesterday with the headline "Tigers Superstar quits Tigers"
IMO this is just too funny now
 
jadtiger said:
JT was the biggest flog to ever be involved at the the Tigers worse than Lamb and Alan Jones,it is also quite probable that he was the worst flog to be involved at Wests.A couple of blokes i know who either played for the Bears or closely where connected to them also hated him
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I used to know a guy quite well who had dealings with him, reckons he had the personality of a wet mop and was really arrogant. I shouldn't judge the guy myself iv never met him, still grinds my gears what he did to the club when he got here, who in their right mind would start to tinker and dismantle the pathways Sheens had in place.
 
SeanT said:
Why would you pay another team to take the one decent player you have. They should of given us a 100k for releasing him
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I read somewhere that they were waiting to work out how much the Tigers were going to chip in for his contract for the rest of the year. Maybe only the bus fare to get rid of him I'm confident that not even the Tigers admin are that incompetent.
 
SeanT said:
It's not just Sheen's there too. Remember Lee butting in and giving nofa another year and more money? This hierarchy has precedence of making head scratching decisions.
Still can't understand why we didn't go after a young gun from up there in recompense.
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Sheens makes the decisions around recruitment and retention. He’s nobodies man.
I’m sorry but I disagree with your assessment around our administration and hierarchy of decision making.
Sheens has made it clear that in his time with the club there has been no decisions made on player R & R without the input from him and the Coach.
Im sure that there is nobody in our administration that wants failure and are working hard to bring us success.
But yes at times decisions you make can sometimes come back to bite you on the bum but it’s easy to criticise having luxury of hindsight.
 
jadtiger said:
JT was the biggest flog to ever be involved at the the Tigers worse than Lamb and Alan Jones,it is also quite probable that he was the worst flog to be involved at Wests.A couple of blokes i know who either played for the Bears or closely where connected to them also hated him
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JT was the worst decision the club has made, and they have made some howlers, he caused trouble as a player and coach everywhere he went, it was never ever going to work, it was always going to end badly, and it did
 
BAGNF05 said:
If the paper work hasn’t been done it’s not official . And our Chair is a lawyer. Apparently.
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Translation . Wt haven’t forwarded the signed copy to the agent yet,which is where the info always comes from.
Doesn’t mean it’s not registered yet.
Also it was Tuesday arvo when this went down. , priority would be the nrl first
 
momo_amp_medo said:
Sheens makes the decisions around recruitment and retention. He’s nobodies man.
I’m sorry but I disagree with your assessment around our administration and hierarchy of decision making.
Sheens has made it clear that in his time with the club there has been no decisions made on player R & R without the input from him and the Coach.
Im sure that there is nobody in our administration that wants failure and are working hard to bring us success.
But yes at times decisions you make can sometimes come back to bite you on the bum but it’s easy to criticise having luxury of hindsight.
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Luxury of hindsight is a great saying now and then. Not after 12 years of the term 'in hindsight' being thrown around.

Yes Sheen's is the one making the moves now but that doesn't mean we will be successful. Far greater chance for sure but unless we get a good coach with a few more rep stars, relying on a batch of kids in the future can not be the only plan.

I do like how there is hardly any leaks now with recruitment. Lot more professional.
 
851 said:
JT was the worst decision the club has made, and they have made some howlers, he caused trouble as a player and coach everywhere he went, it was never ever going to work, it was always going to end badly, and it did
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But the board was impressed by his interview. Fair dinkum. That's why you need a former player on the board or someone who knows the game.
 
momo_amp_medo said:
I’ll spell it out.
You're kidding that anyone would even contemplate such an arrangement.
Sheens has been around Rugby League decisions most his life …. give him some credit please before contemplating that he would take one like that.
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Maybe use your words next time.
 
This happens over and over. One of our top players starts bringing a bad attitude and throwing games to get an early release to a stronger, semis bound team - Moses, Aloiai, Matterson and now Lucy.

The NRL must investigate this apparent corrupt behaviour, seemingly encouraged by the strong clubs trying to break the contract. Otherwise, the Tigers can never be anything but a feeder.
 
Siberian Kitten said:
This happens over and over. One of our top players starts bringing a bad attitude and throwing games to get an early release to a stronger, semis bound team - Moses, Aloiai, Matterson and now Lucy.

The NRL must investigate this apparent corrupt behaviour, seemingly encouraged by the strong clubs trying to break the contract. Otherwise, the Tigers can never be anything but a feeder.
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Pascoe was talking to the NRL after the Matterson affair. How’d that go?
 
Kearnsy said:
We have had some rough years but never have I seen the club give up publicly, especially this early in the season. I know we aren’t going to make the finals this year but it’s still a kick in the guts to all us members and fans who sacrifice time and money supporting this team.
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A "kick in the guts to all our members and fans" .....Your definitely not wrong there @Kearnsy
But most of Our players are so friggin mentally weak [even though I believe Madge tried his guts out to make 'real men' of them] they need all pressure taken off them so they can play their best and then not cry if they get beat 😂
 
I'm curious about all the woe in this thread. So much woe, every step and every day just adds to this ongoing consternation.

I am completely indifferent to Luciano Leilua at this stage. Stay, go, sign him off, don't sign him off... I really don't care. He won't get us to the finals in 2022 and sure as hell will have zero involvement in Tigers playing finals 2023. So the machinations of how he finishes his time at Tigers are of no specific concern to me.

All the rumours are irrelevant. I don't get why you guys get yourself in a bind about it all.

Tigers have already cut the coach - that is the big move, the bold move. That is the one that has a large impact on the Tigers' ongoing fortunes. Whether or not LL plays 11 more games for Tigers doesn't do anything.
 
I am in two minds about this move.

Positive - Helps free up money and he was gone at end of season. Time to blood some juniors

Negatives - WT roll over once again a player wants to leave, Moses, Matterson, Teddy, Garlic Sauce and now LL Cool J. WT look so weak time and time again and you wonder why they fail to land top talent instead of players looking for one last contract.

So reconsidering my stance I think we are Piss weak and a laughing stock of the NRL community
 
jirskyr said:
I'm curious about all the woe in this thread. So much woe, every step and every day just adds to this ongoing consternation.

I am completely indifferent to Luciano Leilua at this stage. Stay, go, sign him off, don't sign him off... I really don't care. He won't get us to the finals in 2022 and sure as hell will have zero involvement in Tigers playing finals 2023. So the machinations of how he finishes his time at Tigers are of no specific concern to me.

All the rumours are irrelevant. I don't get why you guys get yourself in a bind about it all.

Tigers have already cut the coach - that is the big move, the bold move. That is the one that has a large impact on the Tigers' ongoing fortunes. Whether or not LL plays 11 more games for Tigers doesn't do anything.
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No mate, we have seen before what changing the coach does. Sweet FA.
 
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