Wests Tigers Coaches

tig_prmz said:
You gotta fix the problem yourself, can't expect others to come in and fix anything.
Can't expect to sign good players when we regularly play shit.
Can't expect footballers to be professional athletes when those paying them are anything but professional.

Madge should have helped us fix the issue. Sheens, Pascoe, Lee, Kimmorley etc.. it's their job now to fix us. Hiring the best coach available, hiring his assistants etc is just a very small part of the process. You have to be professional from bottom up.

Run it like a professional sports club, not your local footy team.
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Couldn't agree with you more. Sheens in the short time he has recently been with club is the only one to have shown any real energy to lift the club. As far as I am concerned the others have been just hangers on - just going through the motions in order to pick up their non-deserved pay packet.
 
Newtown said:
Couldn't agree with you more. Sheens in the short time he has recently been with club is the only one to have shown any real energy to lift the club. As far as I am concerned the others have been just hangers on - just going through the motions in order to pick up their non-deserved pay packet.
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Just adding to my post - However was behind allowing the Wests Tigers documentary to go ahead should be banished from the club. The documentary set the club in a very bad light from whihch it has yet to recover. Which players would want to come to Wests Tigers after watching that documentary?
 
Newtown said:
Just adding to my post - However was behind allowing the Wests Tigers documentary to go ahead should be banished from the club. The documentary set the club in a very bad light from whihch it has yet to recover. Which players would want to come to Wests Tigers after watching that documentary?
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Not having a go at you mate, but the main point of my post was that we need to get the people within the organisation better. We can't keep recycling through executives, coaches, managers etc. People either get better at an organisation or worse, currently every player, every coach, every admin staff seemst to be going backwards here.

Holding people accountable doesn't just mean getting rid of them but giving them tools to get better. How can we expect players to get better here when leaders within the organisation cut corners? Getting rid of people is cutting corners, the harder and long term part involves making them better. Even if they leave in 2 years, the organisation itself has learnt how to make someone better.
 
tig_prmz said:
How can we expect players to get better here when leaders within the organisation cut corners? Ge
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tig_prmz said:
Not having a go at you mate, but the main point of my post was that we need to get the people within the organisation better. We can't keep recycling through executives, coaches, managers etc. People either get better at an organisation or worse, currently every player, every coach, every admin staff seemst to be going backwards here.

Holding people accountable doesn't just mean getting rid of them but giving them tools to get better. How can we expect players to get better here when leaders within the organisation cut corners? Getting rid of people is cutting corners, the harder and long term part involves making them better. Even if they leave in 2 years, the organisation itself has learnt how to make someone better.
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I would be happy with Morris , but to be honest I doubt Bennett could help us . But we have to start somewhere and I think Morris showed at the sharks he can get the players all pulling in the right direction
 
tig_prmz said:
Not having a go at you mate, but the main point of my post was that we need to get the people within the organisation better. We can't keep recycling through executives, coaches, managers etc. People either get better at an organisation or worse, currently every player, every coach, every admin staff seemst to be going backwards here.

Holding people accountable doesn't just mean getting rid of them but giving them tools to get better. How can we expect players to get better here when leaders within the organisation cut corners? Getting rid of people is cutting corners, the harder and long term part involves making them better. Even if they leave in 2 years, the organisation itself has learnt how to make someone better.
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What is the answer to the problem? Does the club need to provide outside training to the leaders in the club even if they don't want it or at worse resent it?
 
Matt Elliott ex coach on sen now on fire 🔥 📛 👩‍🚒 🚒

Has a book out which sounds awesome
 
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GNR4LIFE said:
Ellis is almost like the forgotten Pom of the last 10-15 years thanks to the Burgess bros
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The Poms know how to produce some excellent forwards. Gareth was up there with the very best - a huge hole when he left. Funny thing, when I was a kid, the Poms were have known for having great halves, such as Rodger the Dodger. If they could have produced a Johns, Fittler, Langer, Thurston in the last tens years imagine how they could have played behind the Burgess bros, Gareth Ellis, James Graham, Elliot Whitehead .. to name a few.
 
Krammy said:
The Poms know how to produce some excellent forwards. Gareth was up there with the very best - a huge hole when he left. Funny thing, when I was a kid, the Poms were have known for having great halves, such as Rodger the Dodger. If they could have produced a Johns, Fittler, Langer, Thurston in the last tens years imagine how they could have played behind the Burgess bros, Gareth Ellis, James Graham, Elliot Whitehead .. to name a few.
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U rememeber Rodger the Dodger , but what about Tommy Bishop tough as nails
 
Newtown said:
What is the answer to the problem? Does the club need to provide outside training to the leaders in the club even if they don't want it or at worse resent it?
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If the "leaders" don't want to do anything or are too boneheaded then no matter what you do, this place won't get better.

We resent Moses, Teddy, Woods etc for taking the easy way out and joining better teams instead of making this team better.

The answer as I said previously is not to take any shortcuts. Perfection starts from the top. Create the standards you want others to follow. One person can't do it, the whole place needs to buy into it.
 
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