Wests Tigers Coaches

I agree wholeheartedly that this is frustrating. I don't for a second believe that Sheens and crew are bumbling about in the dark.

I'm pretty sure their hand was forced due to the decisions made by the Dogs and Warriors. Despite the optics, once they decided Madge was not the right guy going forward, I believe they made the hard right decision by letting him go and not doing it all behind his back. It has been painful for us all.

The early CC announcement is hard to understand; however, either they were very confident in the discussions they already had or the decision was leaked to the media so they had to try and get on the front foot. Did the Chair blowing up at the podcast scuttle HMAS CC or was it something else. We will probably never know until Sheens writes his memoirs.

Suffice to say they have been very quiet regarding where they are going since. The media are doing the same as us fans - speculating and jumping at shadows. While it appears that the recruiting options are drying up (not that the open market is much chop) and the delay in the coaching selection is apparently hurting our recruitment does anyone seriously believe that Sheens and Co are sitting on their hands?

Like him or hate him Sheens is a strategic thinker. He makes some decisions that appear crazy; but, were are made to achieve, or explore, an outcome. To create the circumstances for or to stimulate change.

In the military they have what are called shaping operations. Sometimes these operations involve forces doing something unrelated to cause the enemy to react; ie, to set the preconditions for another part of the operation (this is where the term throw shape at them comes from in our game), they also include an element of information operations (known as Psyops in the old times) . This has two components - protection your own information (no leaks) while concurrently getting information out to support your desired endstate or shape the enemies thinking.

The media is filling the news void with speculation to make themselves look and feel relevant. You only have to read this thread to see that NRL 360 are achieving exactly what they want to achieve. Discussion about them! As fans we can choose to be like the media and jump at every shadow or we can look at it objectively.

Does anyone believe what Gould is saying about sitting on his hands doing nothing about a coach for the Dogs? He is shaping something for sure. Keeping everything under wraps until he has got everything in place before an announcement is made.

I have no doubts that Sheens and Co are also working something that will be revealed when the club is ready. They jumped the gun for sure on CC and they know that us supporters are uneasy. They can read the media speculation as well as we can. They know NRL 360 is roasting us daily - but they clearly have an outcome and a plan to get there and aren't about to be forced into making an announcement by Fix TV. As painful as it is for us it is something we should be take strength from. They are doing the due dilligence to get the best possible outcome.

We just have to trust, that under the guidance of Sheens, the club will make the right strategic decision and stop taking an accountants approach to building a successful team.
Very good post and agree..
But as you know we have waited like 10 years and we are pretty impatient now unfortunately.. Of course they are working behind the scenes but the more the goes on and the media mock our club surely that will turn potential coaches / players off. It’s only getting worse in the next 4 weeks with who we are playing as well..
fingers crossed 🤞🏻
 
Sheens doesn’t need an excuse to punt BK - he hardly needs ammo to set him up…

BK on the other hand - has a nice new job he didn’t earn, NFI what he’s doing - and plenty of mates in the media…

Join the dots
Correct Sheens doesn't need an excuse to punt BK but if he wants to keep other coaches at bay because they fear there are too many leaks from the club then its a perfect ploy. After every coach has said no the board come crawling to Teflon Tim to take the reins. I really don't believe that is the case but is as good an argument as the one that says BK is the leak.
 
Well written Jolls
just a very tough time for all Wests Tigers fans , and I dare say sponsors , I just don’t get how come it takes so long , 3 or 4 possible coaches out there and taking weeks to select one , if Sheens has no plan to coach with his experience he should be able to see who is best suited to try and get us back competitive and also know who would bring the young guys worthy of a shot along , we have already moved 3 young guys up into the top team and a simple instruction to the new coach would be buy who you need now to get us competitive and bring these guys along as well , our juniors are 3 years away so the further instruction would be to get them involved with first grade to encourage the guns they want to stick around , anyway it don’t matter what we think we have no input and probably lucky we don’t , I would have our cap broken in a flash But gee we would be competitive haha
 
Very good post and agree..
But as you know we have waited like 10 years and we are pretty impatient now unfortunately.. Of course they are working behind the scenes but the more the goes on and the media mock our club surely that will turn potential coaches / players off. It’s only getting worse in the next 4 weeks with who we are playing as well..
fingers crossed 🤞🏻
I'm with you HSV
The speculation is killing me and my patience is wearing very thin. For my sanity I have to trust that Sheens has a plan to get us from A to B and the delay is all about getting it right - not about a clueless board!
Buying cut price, past their prime, players isn't going to work and the market is void of quality options. I'm sure there are some deals being made!
 
if Sheens has no plan to coach with his experience he should be able to see who is best suited to try and get us back competitive and also know who would bring the young guys worthy of a shot along
@426Tlgerland I think you are right - he knows who they are for sure. I expect it is all about the terms of contract and what needs to be put in place.
 
Very good post and agree..
But as you know we have waited like 10 years and we are pretty impatient now unfortunately.. Of course they are working behind the scenes but the more the goes on and the media mock our club surely that will turn potential coaches / players off. It’s only getting worse in the next 4 weeks with who we are playing as well..
fingers crossed 🤞🏻
The work they’re doing behind the scenes is all fire fighting. Trying to exert some control over the media broadcasts. Grappa is stocking up the bar.
 
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CC was never going to take the role at West Tigers did the interview out of respect to Tim Sheens and that is a fact and the interview was a learning experience for him, he will take either Parramatta job if Arthur fails this year or the Newcastle job as they want him there. The only leave three real alternatives outside Tim taking the role.
 
CC was never going to take the role at West Tigers did the interview out of respect to Tim Sheens and that is a fact and the interview was a learning experience for him, he will take either Parramatta job if Arthur fails this year or the Newcastle job as they want him there. The only leave three real alternatives outside Tim taking the role.
And they are ?
 
If I was the GODFATHER I’d round up Royce Benj Furner Taylor to be exact 25 or so assistant coaches to work under me.
ill promise to narrow it down to 1.
my vision will be a two year plan and then I’ll hand over the reigns to the new coach and I want my current job back.
When we lose a game, I’ll get rid of a assistant for not doing his job properly .
Do we shake on it BOYS.
 
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CC was never going to take the role at West Tigers did the interview out of respect to Tim Sheens and that is a fact and the interview was a learning experience for him, he will take either Parramatta job if Arthur fails this year or the Newcastle job as they want him there. The only leave three real alternatives outside Tim taking the role.

CC had multiple interviews and one tour of the CoE (after previous interview). Not exactly the behaviour of someone with no interest. Unless of course he was on a fact finding mission.
 
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From what i understand CC had not real interest working at Tigers under the current structure that is our board a lot i would assume is all the negative press they have gotten and not learned from.

Would assume it is know down to Lambkin,Morris,Hannay as the only ones left. The odds for Wolfe join the Dolphins have shortened, and why would Furner leave the dogs and work under Sheens for 2 to 3 years?
 
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