Isaiah Papali’i #265

#2 - well not exactly, he plays badly and you put him in reserve grade. You make him train every day on his own, and if he faults in any way (late to training, failure to train adequately etc) you give him a breach notice and withhold pay.

To get his money he would have to turn up to training every day, same as everyone else, for 3 years, and you grind him into the dirt for it.

I don't honestly think / guess that IP has that little honour that he would not do his best once he's at Tigers. I don't know the man of course.
I also think IP would be honourable my comments are about a hypothetical player
 
criminal if he won’t come
They are losing Nuikore, Stone, Mahoney and Oregon Kaufusi on top of Papalii, and only gaining Hodgson AFAIK, so it makes sense for Parra to be going into damage control.

I mean this respectfully but I wish Benji would refrain from making comments and let Sheens/McDonnell handle this area. Get he has a job in the media but would like to not have everything play out so publicly for once.
This is the one player I really want us to have and if Parra are falling over themselves, let them. As long as we get the job done in the background quietly.
 
Parra definitely giving him head noise about leaving.
It's all a bit late for that. They should have given him "wallet noise" many months ago.

In fact I hope, if IP does in fact ask not to come, that we enforce his contract not just to maintain the principle and legal right, but to give a big f.u. to Parramatta.

To think 2 of the 3 biggest dogs to ever wear Tigers colours are still running around at the Eels, and one of them is publicly hopeful his team-mate will renege on his contract, just tells you what a piece of shit organisation they are.
 
It's all a bit late for that. They should have given him "wallet noise" many months ago.

In fact I hope, if IP does in fact ask not to come, that we enforce his contract not just to maintain the principle and legal right, but to give a big f.u. to Parramatta.

To think 2 of the 3 biggest dogs to ever wear Tigers colours are still running around at the Eels, and one of them is publicly hopeful his team-mate will renege on his contract, just tells you what a piece of shit organisation they are.

Yeah I think at this point its important we don't take the bait.

Do you reckon NRL step in
 
Where there is fuel there is fire.
There are 2 separate issues
1. Legal - for a valid contract you need an offer, an acceptance of that offer and consideration meaning $ specified .if he signed contract and didn't honour it he is in breach of contract and liable for damages which might be difficult to put a figure on
2. Practical - If a contracted player is forced to play for team he is contracted to then all he has to do is play like shit and will get release
For this reason clubs need protection and NRL can ensure this by making players sit out season in this type of situation
Just like to add that no contract should be broken and both player and the clubs involved ( club letting go and club receiving ) should be penalised if a contract is not fulfilled . I see just a big problem of what the dogs are doing (formerly Penrith ) under Gould in forcing players out and letting go of players early . To me this is just as big problem as players agitating to leave .

But my post is just in relation to point 1.
Would that contract be valid if certain assurances were made even if not written into contracts .

I can see one day someone challenging a contract they signed a year or two out before starting it .

For instance If they sold it as a experienced coaching set up and then say we are going to have a first timer coach could than not be grounds to make a contract invalid .

Just return to old June 30 deadline and these contract messes would cease
 
Depends on the contract he signed.

Should be a clause for damages if he renegs.

He was a Madge fellow.

If I was Tim, I’d go out and see him and tell him everything that was said to him by Madge, every promise and all of that, was all Tim’s thoughts.

And if I was Tim I’d tell paps that Madge never wanted him, “ it was me Paps, it was always me”.

“ Madge lied to you then, and if you ring him, he will keep lying.”

“ I bet you didn’t know, Bea Arthur has many bad hidden fetishes ask Stefano”

Tell him anything, whatever it takes lads.

We’ve tried honesty with players, we are in the crafty sheens era now.
Yep and I’m no lawyer.
 
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Benji Marshall has revealed the context of his SOS call to star recruit Isaiah Papali’i, who is refusing to quell Wests Tigers’ fears that he wants out of his $1.9 million contract.

Meanwhile, Papali’i’s high-profile Eels teammate Mitchell Moses has admitted he hasn’t given up hope that the Kiwi International will remain in blue and gold.

As first revealed by The Daily Telegraph on Tuesday, Papali’i has cold feet about linking with the Tigers next year, with his priority to stay at Parramatta.

After a starring performance against the Warriors on Friday night, Papali’i had the chance to kill the issue.

But he didn’t.

“For me, I’m pretty focused on this season that I have here and what I can offer the Eels so I want to make sure that I finish this season strong, and I’ll worry about that when it comes to it,” Papali’i said.

“I have no comment on that stuff. It’s not my focus at the moment and I want to make sure that I put my best foot forward in the season that I have here.

“That’s playing week to week and worrying about my job.”

Papali’i was then asked if Tigers fans could relax knowing that he’d join the club in 2023.

“There’s nothing for me to say there and I just want to make sure that I can finish this season strong,” he said.

“Whatever happens, happens.”

The 23-year-old New Zealand international was quizzed on whether his bond with Marshall would be enough to sway him.

“He’s a good mate,” he said.

“Obviously I’ve been on some camps with him with the Kiwis. That’s all I have to say at the moment.”

As for Sheens taking over next year?

“That’s great for the club,” he said.

“Everyone was wondering who the coach would be, so knowing their plans going forward is something good for the club.”

The questions won’t go away for Papali’i until he gives definitive answers, so for now, he’s going into lockdown.

“I’ll keep my circle tight and make sure I’m performing week to week,” Papali’i said.

“I’ve got to stay away from social media because that’s the biggest thing that gets in your head for everyone. I’ve got to stay away from that, enjoy my footy and stay with my mates.”

Papali’i’s comments are of a different tone to what Marshall explained to The Sunday Telegraph.

Just hours after being appointed as the Wests Tigers long-term coach, Marshall was on the phone to Papali’i.

“Yeah, I called him,” Marshall said.

“I told him what was happening, I told him I was coaching. He said it was a breath of fresh air to hear that.”

Papali’i’s appetite to join the Tigers has been soured by the departure of axed Wests Tigers coach Michael Maguire, who had coached the backrower for New Zealand.

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A key figure in Papali’i signing with the Wests Tigers was also former head of recruitment Adam Hartigan.

However, he has also been moved on from the last-placed club.

Papali’i has made it clear to his Parramatta teammates and coaching staff that he wants to stay in blue and gold.

It’s understood the Eels have salary cap space to retain the Kiwi International.

Interestingly, Moses also understood that there was a clear issue with Papali’i going to the Tigers when asked about his teammate’s predicament on Triple M on Saturday.

“Hopefully he stays with us,” Moses said.

“He’s a quality player. Where he has come from, the quality of stuff he does on the field, but off the field as well, he’s such a good person, which makes it even better.

“He’d be a big loss.’’

Asked if he had given up hope of keeping Papali’i, Moses replied: “Never. Hopefully he can stay.’’

Aware of their star recruit’s anxiety, the Wests Tigers recently took Papali’i on a guided tour of the club’s $75 million Centre of Excellence.

Tigers officials left the meeting confident Papali’i was committed to the club.

The Tigers are on firm legal ground to ensure the contract stands with Papali’i unable to tread down a path used by other disgruntled players in the past, who have broken a contract on the basis of compassionate grounds.

On a serious note the NRL need to step in and stop this rubbish..
There is no way a player (Moses) should be about to say we are trying to keep him when him and everyone knows a contract has been signed elsewhere..
Benji should not have to say he called him either etc... Bad luck you signed a contract so you come over and play or retire for 3 years..
This is a massive moment for Sheen's and the club to grow some balls and not be walked over again.
 
On a serious note the NRL need to step in and stop this rubbish..
There is no way a player (Moses) should be about to say we are trying to keep him when him and everyone knows a contract has been signed elsewhere..
Benji should not have to say he called him either etc... Bad luck you signed a contract so you come over and play or retire for 3 years..
This is a massive moment for Sheen's and the club to grow some balls and not be walked over again.

The nrl as a business would compare to a real estate company.

Unfortunately no balls to take on player managers as they know its that shonky they'd have no players left
 
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