Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Koroibete was originally a Tiger and we have a history of great fast backs
either we unearthed them or signed them .Some include Tedesco ,Papenhausen, Addocarr , Larry Corowa, Ellery Hanley, even remember Kevin Yeohoyay , and of course Benji .
Pity we let Teddy,JAC and Paps go not much foresight
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
Lets be real about this.

Madden has had ample opportunity to step up and deliver and he has struggled. He and his mgmt made some really clear contract views that he isn't getting a fair chance & he want's NRL commitment from us.

In his 9 starts this year he has had 1 good game, not a way to back the comments up & earn a contract which included terrible sides like the Warriors, Titans & Knights and was totally ineffective in which we lost in ugly games with.

His try assist wasn't great, yes it was a try assist in a 4 on 2 situation where 1 of those defenders raced up out of the line creating a 4 on 1 situation against 12 man team. He did his job and summed it up well, ran and passed.

He scored a great try which was setup by an even better offload from Musgrove it wasn't individual, he also had Brown unmarked on the inside and chose to step run himself and nearly got caught/fell over. He didn't create the try himself and this is the issue - he just doesn't create / identify / organise at the NRL level for others.

His data for the year shows his involvement levels & output are low for a halfback. He has touched the ball 30-40 times a game & has 3 try assists in 9 x 80min games (13 games all up) which just isn't the value for return a NRL halfback should provide.

I just don't see why we would pick him over Hastings, Brooks, AD next year all who offer us more than Madden currently does.
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Brooks played half in 2 of those games so what applies to Madden must apply to him as well, more so because he has first touch of the ball.
Both are millstones for the Tigers and it's best if both are gone with Hastings slotting into half.
We now have Ofahengaue and Brown to cover 13.
 
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Stevec said:
Koroibete was originally a Tiger and we have a history of great fast backs
either we unearthed them or signed them .Some include Tedesco ,Papenhausen, Addocarr , Larry Corowa, Ellery Hanley, even remember Kevin Yeohoyay , and of course Benji .
Pity we let Teddy,JAC and Paps go not much foresight
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KEVIN YOW YEH my auto correct went crazy
 
Stevec said:
Koroibete was originally a Tiger and we have a history of great fast backs
either we unearthed them or signed them .Some include Tedesco ,Papenhausen, Addocarr , Larry Corowa, Ellery Hanley, even remember Kevin Yeohoyay , and of course Benji .
Pity we let Teddy,JAC and Paps go not much foresight
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How is referencing a Winger that finished playing over 50 years ago remotely relevant?

Considering Yow Yeh played 3 Seasons at "Balmain" and finished in 1968 - I very much doubt there is barely anyone that remembers him playing...
Again, I fail to understand the relevance - There's barely even any footage of him.

ps: When another club signs a player you want to keep - It's not considered "Letting them go"
It's considered them Leaving.
 
Bring back Olaf Prattl said:
Brooks played half in 2 of those games so what applies to Madden must apply to him as well, more so because he has first touch of the ball.
Both are millstones for the Tigers and it's best if both are gone with Hastings slotting into half.
We now have Ofahengaue and Brown to cover 13.
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I have been very critical of Brooks the last 12-18mths as well.
Difference in the current landscape though is Brooks is already on the books for next year and Madden isn't.
 
As much as Luke Brooks divides opinions, he is under contract for another season on anywhere from $900k-$1.1m depending on who you believe. I would doubt any other club would pay any higher than $600k for him at the moment so we'd have to supplement at least $300k for him to play elsewhere.

Now given we would not get another halfback for next season as good as Brooks, I think it would be stupid of us to let him go. Plus we get a $188k allowance for him next season I believe.

* Veteran and Developed Player Allowance for eligible players who were either developed by the Club prior to becoming NRL players and / or have been a Top 30 player for at least 8 years at the Club or have been a Top 30 player for at least 10 years across the game *

The Salary Cap

Here are the official guidelines for the NRL salary cap, including frequently asked questions like what players can earn outside the salary cap, how much can clubs spend, third party agreements and more.
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Why not give the Laurie - Doeuihi - Brooks - Hastings - Korisau spine a try next season under the new style of Sheens. If it works, extend Brooks at that time!

Kade Hill can be moulded as the future over the next couple of years (or Conti) & potentially Isdale/Large after that.
 
batboy said:
How is referencing a Winger that finished playing over 50 years ago remotely relevant?

Considering Yow Yeh played 3 Seasons at "Balmain" and finished in 1968 - I very much doubt there is barely anyone that remembers him playing...
Again, I fail to understand the relevance - There's barely even any footage of him.

ps: When another club signs a player you want to keep - It's not considered "Letting them go"
It's considered them Leaving.
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If you saw Yoh Yeh play, compared to Kepoa and T'oa there is no contest.
Yoh Yeh would have played State of Origin if such a thing existed, he was top shelf, wing or centre.
 
Bring back Olaf Prattl said:
If you saw Yoh Yeh play, compared to Kepoa and T'oa there is no contest.
Yoh Yeh would have played State of Origin if such a thing existed, he was top shelf, wing or centre.
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If I saw (And remembered) Yow Yeh - I'd be 70 odd years old and probably care very little.....
Certainly not enough to be conjuring up imaginary comparisons on an internet forum.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
As much as Luke Brooks divides opinions, he is under contract for another season on anywhere from $900k-$1.1m depending on who you believe. I would doubt any other club would pay any higher than $600k for him at the moment so we'd have to supplement at least $300k for him to play elsewhere.

Now given we would not get another halfback for next season as good as Brooks, I think it would be stupid of us to let him go. Plus we get a $188k allowance for him next season I believe.

* Veteran and Developed Player Allowance for eligible players who were either developed by the Club prior to becoming NRL players and / or have been a Top 30 player for at least 8 years at the Club or have been a Top 30 player for at least 10 years across the game *

The Salary Cap

Here are the official guidelines for the NRL salary cap, including frequently asked questions like what players can earn outside the salary cap, how much can clubs spend, third party agreements and more.
www.nrl.com www.nrl.com

Why not give the Laurie - Doeuihi - Brooks - Hastings - Korisau spine a try next season under the new style of Sheens. If it works, extend Brooks at that time!

Kade Hill can be moulded as the future over the next couple of years (or Conti) & potentially Isdale/Large after that.
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Agreed, except if we can renegotiate Brook's contract down to ~$600k a year for a further two years which looks like the plan, then it is a far more balanced salary cap.

I'm of the opinion that if all our players are injury free, that spine (with Hastings as the controlling half in the number 13) is a winning game plan. Add Api's smarts and Papalii's power and we have the makings of something.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
As much as Luke Brooks divides opinions, he is under contract for another season on anywhere from $900k-$1.1m depending on who you believe. I would doubt any other club would pay any higher than $600k for him at the moment so we'd have to supplement at least $300k for him to play elsewhere.

Now given we would not get another halfback for next season as good as Brooks, I think it would be stupid of us to let him go. Plus we get a $188k allowance for him next season I believe.

* Veteran and Developed Player Allowance for eligible players who were either developed by the Club prior to becoming NRL players and / or have been a Top 30 player for at least 8 years at the Club or have been a Top 30 player for at least 10 years across the game *

The Salary Cap

Here are the official guidelines for the NRL salary cap, including frequently asked questions like what players can earn outside the salary cap, how much can clubs spend, third party agreements and more.
www.nrl.com www.nrl.com

Why not give the Laurie - Doeuihi - Brooks - Hastings - Korisau spine a try next season under the new style of Sheens. If it works, extend Brooks at that time!

Kade Hill can be moulded as the future over the next couple of years (or Conti) & potentially Isdale/Large after that.
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Agree with this however the problem as have we cannot afford to wait until next year or will there managers.. There player managers will want to get there futures wrapped up over this off season.

So far we are believed to of offered Brooks a 3 year deal on a lower rate and IMO that is fine as I thought the Brooks / AD / Hastings combo looked very good for the few games. Then add Api and Daine getting more quality ball equals success.

As I've said before the number 1 priority should be Hastings and I believe the @THE_POM mentioned we are looking at talking to him this week so finger crossed.. THIS 100% needs to be locked up urgently - Maybe the Pom might have more info later in the week.

I also think we lack aggression so would target a few guys like Klemmer or Sa'u
 
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