WT Ownership, The Board & Senior Management - MEGA Thread

[Halbrowne61]

This hands off approach is convenient for the office monkeys when we’re losing. Bet they’d be taking all the credit if we could play.

I'm sure they would but ive got a feeling that Pascoe is purposely laying low.

FYI, the code is All Of The Above is Tongue In Cheek.
Cheers mate,

 

[BAGNF05]

I'm sure they would but ive got a feeling that Pascoe is purposely laying low.

FYI, the code is All Of The Above is Tongue In Cheek.
Cheers mate,

Cheers mate.

Probably gone to the top end for a Margarita again. His organisation is absolutely humming along.

 

[Halbrowne61]

Cheers mate.

Probably gone to the top end for a Margarita again. His organisation is absolutely humming along.

LOL

 

[TSP]

I suppose what irks me most about the board is that not a single one of them has the courage or commitment to the club to stand down and let someone else have a go.

Over many years they have succeeded in appointing the wrong people to key positions and then as we know, when things have gone south, they have been quick to throw them under a bus.

All we get is spin, excuses, bold promises of youth and now a trip down memory lane to distract us from:

A) A genuine contemporary nrl coach
B) 3 more decent forwards
C) A marquee or 3. Look at other clubs.
D) A future.

Our board members get paid, they get the best seats and other privileges. They simply haven’t earned it. They should start paying for it themselves.

I think Lee has to do some board machinations, get some numbers and see if he can start a purge or buy them off. Pension them off with a bribe and send them back to their own worlds.

It seems like we take a gamble of some kind every year, a 24/7/365 review that never ends.

The other thing I don’t care for is the Monopoly money attitude. Sack a coach, ship Mbye out etc, hundreds of thousands of dollars thrown away.

Money we could use on helping struggling juniors, the best admin and other officials etc. We don’t need the best bloody gym (COE) we need the best people.

I have a few ideas.

It’s almost impossible to do by people power, so it has to be vested interests. It’s not impossible.

Also see “footy five” at Penrith awhile ago. The panthers were already to merge with the eels. Not on their watch.

I can tell you one leagues club loves a good stacking for their agm, it seems to me by many people who can’t speak English. Who knows what these kindly people thought they were voting for.

Otherwise, privatisation will probably arrive eventually. I was critical of Elias but the longer this saga continues, the more receptive I’m becoming. I’d prefer a few sound westies in the mix as well though.

And don’t forget stryker told us exactly how this year would unfold, except he was 2 weeks early for the Madge sacking. He’s not in the board room, not near the centre of power and him as his prado live far far away but it shows you how predictable it’s all become.

Tim has already made excuses for next year, I mean we should ask ourselves, should we even bother?? What’s in for us mug fans. More misery and depression?

So if @BAGNF05, myself and others aren’t pounding away now, we don’t have the right to later. I see it as a duty. People can disagree, all good, but the truth will always win the day.

And for balance, if you think I am critical of the board, I’m a lot less compassionate towards our club’s enemies. All these ex Tiger player flogs whinging on. Get our name out of their f&&king mouths

 

[Stevec]

The absolute main goal of the management comprising Chairman ,Board and the CEO is to achieve Football results especially the NRL team .
Their prime goal is not all the off field stuff and not keeping their jobs .
What the fans want is NRL success and if you have a couple of years just missing out on the 8 well the fans will accept if they can see positive strides in recruitment coaching etc.However we won't accept a plan that's shows more of the same rubbish for a few more years .
To the management if you are not part of the solution you are the problem

 

[Cobarcats]

I worry about some of your guys metal health.
As Cochise said, maybe with all this energy members can do something about it. Regularly beating your chest on the forum about the same thing over and over is like your trying to validate your opinions.
We do get it!
If the board continued to sit on there hands and didn't appoint Sheens to steer the football side of things and develop a coaching future for the club you would be raving about once again the WT have no vision.
Not since the 05 era have I been a little optimistic about our future.
It's a new beginning that baggers and a few like him just don't want to buy in.
The COE, our salary cap and club financial position, our emphasis on pathways, the signing of one of the best hookers and forwards in the world, Api and Papa, the signing of a classy knowledgeable assistant coach in Furner are adding to my optimism.
There will be be more signings I'm sure of that!
But what I do like, which was a simple statement blown out of proportion, was I'm glad there is a division between the club and football ops where we should hear more from Sheens than Pascoe regarding football operations.
Pascoe and his staff can concentrate on the "carpark"
See...not one swear word or finger ponting to get my point across 🤔

 

[Merlot]

maybe its time we had a skinless frankfurt running the show,by its discription it would fit right in

 

[Lauren]

Actually respect all angles on this, as I do agree with certain parts of all arguments.
The club did give us (supporters) years of false promises. Telling us one thing, the coach and playing group another. Meanwhile internal (board & team) conflict was mishandled and further damaged our reputation.
The Potter and Taylor years easily highlight this, for me. Was too young to understand prior to their tenures.
It diminished the credibility and integrity of the club whilst poor accountability cost us key talent and eventually morale.
However if there is one noticeable change that looks better for us, it's that the club is being transparent and have presented a more feasible plan.
Most challenges have been identified (some dealt with) and we know there is currently some immense effort (or attempts) going on in the background with recruitment. Our main issue, as of now.

Trust is at an all time low for good reason but there's been some promising signs that they are laying the groundwork for a sustainable or solid foundation - for the future success of the club.
A couple of signings will help ease some pain/concerns.

 

[Cobarcats]

maybe its time we had a skinless frankfurt running the show,by its discription it would fit right in

Merlot CEO, Demps Head of Performance and Lauren Coach..me the supporter. I'm in 😍

 

[twentyforty]

Actually respect all angles on this, as I do agree with certain parts of all arguments.
The club did give us (supporters) years of false promises. Telling us one thing, the coach and playing group another. Meanwhile internal (board & team) conflict was mishandled and further damaged our reputation.
The Potter and Taylor years easily highlight this, for me. Was too young to understand prior to their tenures.
It diminished the credibility and integrity of the club whilst poor accountability cost us key talent and eventually morale.
However if there is one noticeable change that looks better for us, it's that the club is being transparent and have presented a more feasible plan.
Most challenges have been identified (some dealt with) and we know there is currently some immense effort (or attempts) going on in the background with recruitment. Our main issue, as of now.

Trust is at an all time low for good reason but there's been some promising signs that they are laying the groundwork for a sustainable or solid foundation - for the future success of the club.
A couple of signings will help ease some pain/concerns.

We have a plan? Thanks to God, I was always thinking we were like a rudderless ship in the Bermuda Triangle?
I know we’ve had a massive injection of DNA, but why does it always seem like the only thing we’re developing is our comedy routine. Ali didn’t win that many fights by having his opponent laugh till it hurts. 🤣

 

[BAGNF05]

Their only discernible plan is to replace head coaches. And give the new coach a similarly average to bad squad. Our management need to replace themselves. Were they all nice and compassionate when they stuck the knife into Madge Cobar, then left Noddy out to dry? They deserve all the vitriol they get.

 

[gallagher]

Their only discernible plan is to replace head coaches. And give the new coach a similarly average to bad squad. Our management need to replace themselves. Were they all nice and compassionate when they stuck the knife into Madge Cobar, then left Noddy out to dry? They deserve all the vitriol they get.

I enjoy your posts, keep them coming. There's always a few who want to keep the forum a safe place for the board and CEO.

 

[twentyforty]

Their only discernible plan is to replace head coaches. And give the new coach a similarly average to bad squad. Our management need to replace themselves. Were they all nice and compassionate when they stuck the knife into Madge Cobar, then left Noddy out to dry? They deserve all the vitriol they get.

As a club, we don't appear to reward good behaviour. There's a lot of talk here about how great the signings of Apisai and Papali'i are but we sack the coach responsible. The most successful coach who gave us a GF victory and our only 3 finals appearances, we also sacked. Our flick passing legend moved on. Our great origin Hooker, moved on. We've managed to get the last 3 on that list to return, but how effective will they be after we have taken the wind out of their sails?
Like I say, I'm looking for evidence that we've turned the corner and can consistently make sound decisions based on an organisational developmental strategy, which doesn't include "we've decided to move in a completely different direction."

 

[diedpretty]

Rick Wayde is on the Board, he was CEO of Wests Magpies in the 80s when NSWRL threatened to kick them out. He's now overseen almost a decade of garbage here. The guy only knows failure, but were expecting people like him to fix this mess.

I am not defending Wayde as i believe his time was up long ago however to say he was always a total failure is just BS.
Wests (and Newtown) were suspended indefinitely which meant kicked out Wayde led the revolt against the NSWRL and organised many fund raising events to cover legal costs and put up enough money to stay in the comp. Wests took the NSWRL to court and won and the NSWRL had to reinstate them. Seems like a pretty big success story to me.
I found this on youtube.

 

[batboy]

I am not defending Wayde as i believe his time was up long ago however to say he was always a total failure is just BS.
Wests (and Newtown) were suspended indefinitely which meant kicked out Wayde led the revolt against the NSWRL and organised many fund raising events to cover legal costs and put up enough money to stay in the comp. Wests took the NSWRL to court and won and the NSWRL had to reinstate them. Seems like a pretty big success story to me.
I found this on youtube.

You don't think he should have done something of relevance in the last 40 years to hold such a position at our club?
He's basically made a living off those old days since then.

Even the Magpie die hards hate his guts.... Then again, They hate everyone 😂😂

 

[Halbrowne61]

I suppose what irks me most about the board is that not a single one of them has the courage or commitment to the club to stand down and let someone else have a go.

Over many years they have succeeded in appointing the wrong people to key positions and then as we know, when things have gone south, they have been quick to throw them under a bus.

All we get is spin, excuses, bold promises of youth and now a trip down memory lane to distract us from:

A) A genuine contemporary nrl coach
B) 3 more decent forwards
C) A marquee or 3. Look at other clubs.
D) A future.

Our board members get paid, they get the best seats and other privileges. They simply haven’t earned it. They should start paying for it themselves.

I think Lee has to do some board machinations, get some numbers and see if he can start a purge or buy them off. Pension them off with a bribe and send them back to their own worlds.

It seems like we take a gamble of some kind every year, a 24/7/365 review that never ends.

The other thing I don’t care for is the Monopoly money attitude. Sack a coach, ship Mbye out etc, hundreds of thousands of dollars thrown away.

Money we could use on helping struggling juniors, the best admin and other officials etc. We don’t need the best bloody gym (COE) we need the best people.

I have a few ideas.

It’s almost impossible to do by people power, so it has to be vested interests. It’s not impossible.

Also see “footy five” at Penrith awhile ago. The panthers were already to merge with the eels. Not on their watch.

I can tell you one leagues club loves a good stacking for their agm, it seems to me by many people who can’t speak English. Who knows what these kindly people thought they were voting for.

Otherwise, privatisation will probably arrive eventually. I was critical of Elias but the longer this saga continues, the more receptive I’m becoming. I’d prefer a few sound westies in the mix as well though.

And don’t forget stryker told us exactly how this year would unfold, except he was 2 weeks early for the Madge sacking. He’s not in the board room, not near the centre of power and him as his prado live far far away but it shows you how predictable it’s all become.

Tim has already made excuses for next year, I mean we should ask ourselves, should we even bother?? What’s in for us mug fans. More misery and depression?

So if @BAGNF05, myself and others aren’t pounding away now, we don’t have the right to later. I see it as a duty. People can disagree, all good, but the truth will always win the day.

And for balance, if you think I am critical of the board, I’m a lot less compassionate towards our club’s enemies. All these ex Tiger player flogs whinging on. Get our name out of their f&&king mouths

I would say that none of them will stand down coz imo they don’t believe they’re the problem.
Now I see and understand all sides of the postings but I think we’re wasting time demanding they leave.
And as I said previously, people power only works within the parameters of our constitution which revolves around Wests Ashfield members( for a minimum 3 years) running for the board.
So if there are WTF members who cover that criteria then have a go at change. That’s the only way it can happen.

 

[cochise]

I would say that none of them will stand down coz imo they don’t believe they’re the problem.
Now I see and understand all sides of the postings but I think we’re wasting time demanding they leave.
And as I said previously, people power only works within the parameters of our constitution which revolves around Wests Ashfield members( for a minimum 3 years) running for the board.
So if there are WTF members who cover that criteria then have a go at change. That’s the only way it can happen.

Nope that won't do it either. There are only 2 seats on the Wests Ashfield board that are voted for by the general membership of Wests Ashfield. Wests Ashfield board then appoint the majority of seats to the Wests Tigers board.

 

[diedpretty]

You don't think he should have done something of relevance in the last 40 years to hold such a position at our club?
He's basically made a living off those old days since then.

Even the Magpie die hards hate his guts.... Then again, They hate everyone 😂😂

Did you even read the first sentence i wrote> Of course not just jump on your high horse as usual.

 

[batboy]

Did you even read the first sentence i wrote> Of course not just jump on your high horse as usual.

Righto you ####...
I'm agreeing with you (Maybe worded a little incorrectly)

The point that you're finding something from black and white TV almost to defend him says all I really need to know....

 

[diedpretty]

Righto you ####...
I'm agreeing with you (Maybe worded a little incorrectly)

The point that you're finding something from black and white TV almost to defend him says all I really need to know....

You really are a self righteous , loud mouthed so and so aren't you. I am not defending him and in fact as i said i believe his use by date was ages ago and nowhere in your post do i see you agreeing with me. You and a few other posters on here have a real bee in your bonnet about how bad the board are but all you and the others ever do is ram your useless comments down everyones throat I would think most people on here realise how incompetent the board are but we don't need to hear the whining every second post.