Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[pawsandclaws1]

If the club does not re-sign Hastings to appease 2 juniors that have played 2 NRL games between them then the club is dumber than I thought.

Hastings is currently our best 7 and 13, it's beyond stupid to not try to keep the best players in their position unless they're over the hill.

I have not read the club is not intending to re-sign Hastings. Can you provide a link to this article?

Hastings is a 13 at WTs until end of 23. He will have to compete for the 13 with Matamua and Faagutu. I would have thought having competition for positions is a desirable outcome for results and culture.

 

[weststigerman]

Will it be about this ? I think they've tried to re-sign him. I wonder if it's because he sees himself as a halfback rather than a 13.

Yeah, if he decides he wants to leave (he did come here for Maguire) that's a different story, you can't force players to stay.

We'd be nuts to let him go or offer him peanuts so he leaves.

Sheens can be pretty arrogant but the way the side changed when Hastings was at 7 (or at 13) should not be ignored. Predictably the team completely lost their bundle after he broke his leg.

 

[weststigerman]

I have not read the club is not intending to re-sign Hastings. Can you provide a link to this article?

Hastings is a 13 at WTs until end of 23. He will have to compete for the 13 with Matamua and Faagutu. I would have thought having competition for positions is a desirable outcome for results and culture.

The word I used is "if".

Yes it's a good idea to have depth, but you don't dump your best player in the position because you have a few potential NRL players coming through. They have to prove themselves.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The word I used is "if".

Yes it's a good idea to have depth, but you don't dump your best player in the position because you have a few potential NRL players coming through. They have to prove themselves.

The decision has already been made that he is a 13 and what better outcome for the club than make him compete for the position against two outstanding 13 prospects. By start of 24 both could fill the role.

 

[tony soprano]

Agreed. Anyone who has watched Klemmer would know this but our supporters aren't exactly the brightest lot. Guy makes good metres, is aggressive and a workhorse and is only 28.

Just needs to learn quick play the balls.

Has a habit to take ages to get tackled letting defence reset.

My sense is farah would be keen in him.

 

[earl]

Yeah, if he decides he wants to leave (he did come here for Maguire) that's a different story, you can't force players to stay.

We'd be nuts to let him go or offer him peanuts so he leaves.

Sheens can be pretty arrogant but the way the side changed when Hastings was at 7 (or at 13) should not be ignored. Predictably the team completely lost their bundle after he broke his leg.

In my opinion he was the stand out spine player for us. I think Sheens views Hastings at 13 as a spine player.

The thing is there is a lot more to the situation. What works best for the team balance - Is Hastings @ 13 a POD that leads to more wins or is he better at 7 and we get a bigger pack ? How much money does he want ? How is his body holding up ? Does he fit in well or is he difficult ?

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Any word on where the development contracts are going?

Apisalome Saukuru (2023), Justin Matamua (2023)

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Hastings is more important to the team than Brooks.

Evidence: this season from Hastings & most seasons from Brooks other than his undeserved half-back of the year meme and debut game.

sheens doesn't think so, I agree Hastings is important as a ball playing 13 not as a 7

 

[weststigers]

This may be the case but this side needs to learn aggression (Klemmer) and attitude/ will to win (Bateman). We are a powder puff side at present. Wouldn’t scare most NSW Cup teams.

If Bateman has the will to win, but puts in poor performances, don’t you think this will be a net negative impact on the team?

I only say this because I have watched him play in the SL. If we expect him to suddenly get better when he arrives to us, we are in Disneyland.

Objectively watch a few of his games in the SL and you may change your opinion.

The Raiders John Bateman? Yes.

The current John Bateman? Waste of salary cap.

 

[earl]

He reminds of B Simmons - wants to play basketball and be paid 100k , but does not want to shoot the ball??

You could also compare him to Dennis Rodman.

 

[1eyedmel]

So many experts on this forum who believe they know better than Sheens, Farah, Furner and Marshall.

You become an expert after viewing so much wests tigers shit over the years. I'm not certain that our future coaching staff have viewed all our games over the years as us staunch supporters to get the overall perspective.

 

[earl]

One bad year doesn’t mean shit. The argument is Brooks has played 9 seasons with 1 club and hasn’t even lead them to finals footy. Cleary in his first year at 18 less experience than Brooks did it in his first year. He’s already achieved more than Brooks has in his first year in the NRL and he’s 4 years younger than Brooks.

Can you do this in the Luke Brooks thread. The Brooks bashing just goes into way too many threads. I'd love him gone for this reason alone.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

You become an expert after viewing so much wests tigers shit over the years. I'm not certain that our future coaching staff have viewed all our games over the years as us staunch supporters to get the overall perspective.

I have confidence in our coaching team.

 

[earl]

You become an expert after viewing so much wests tigers shit over the years. I'm not certain that our future coaching staff have viewed all our games over the years as us staunch supporters to get the overall perspective.

I hope they get it right and that shows by winning games. Until that happens I have zero confidence in them and uptmost trust in my uneducated ignorant biased opinion.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

It’ll be Knights. Only other team that could possibly come knocking is Parra and that’s if they lose Moses.

think 2024 parramatta is a chance if they lose Moses or brown

 

[Tigers_Wests]

Apisalome Saukuru (2023), Justin Matamua (2023)

That's official at this point. Should see another couple with a development contract over the pre season.

 

[batboy]

You become an expert after viewing so much wests tigers shit over the years. I'm not certain that our future coaching staff have viewed all our games over the years as us staunch supporters to get the overall perspective.

Not real clever are you?
You do realise 1/2 our new coaching staff played in most of those games you're referring to yeah...

 

[tony soprano]

If Bateman has the will to win, but puts in poor performances, don’t you think this will be a net impact on the team?

I only say this because I have watched him play in the SL. If we expect him to suddenly get better when he arrives to us, we are in Disneyland.

Objectively watch a few of his games in the SL and you may change your opinion.

The Raiders John Bateman? Yes.

The current John Bateman? Waste of salary cap.

I guess it's hard to confirm EL form.

Can you confirm JB was killing it in England before Raiders?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

That's official at this point. Should see another couple with a development contract over the pre season.

Who would be your tips to pick up development contracts in the pre-season?

 

[batboy]

I guess it's hard to confirm EL form.

Can you confirm JB was killing it in England before Raiders?

Was playing for England....
Saw an old game this morning where he went OK.
(No Gareth Ellis)

I would also add Batemans 2nd year at the Raiders (While marred with Injury)
was pretty ordinary..
He very much went home with his tail between his legs for mine...

He's just a name these days, I'm worried he just won't perform
Especially if we break bank on him.

We should be trying to get a few young(ish) fellas from over there .
- We still have Femi don't we?