Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Yeah i agree Kikau is a flat track bully, i think ice is a better more well rounded 2nd. Reed obviously has more longevity but as it stand Api is the better player and your Prem window as you have seen with Parra is only open for a small time unless your the Storm, Panthers, Rooster ect
Im not worried post Api we have plenty of depth in the hooker position and yes Klemmer is better than Thompson but you could argue the dogs are starting from a better base minus those key positions in FB and Half. Im still not confident Moses rocks up at Concord this year or next time will tell i guess.
Disagree with your comment regarding their halves not being better than ours. I'd take Burton and Flanagan over Brooks and Douehi every day of the week and twice on Sundays
 
We are an outside chance for Moses, but if the EEls don't sign him for 2024, it will be very awkward for both him and the club next year. That's one of the reasons, i doubt he will leave. I think he is more valuable then the 5/8, who is hot and cold. If they can't keep both i think Brown will go.
 
Yeah it's a pet project, it has nothing to do with the club and everything to do with the personal brand, like the dudes who own French rugby clubs or Marwan Koukash and when he used to own the Red Devils.

The credit I will give someone like Rusty Crowe is he was always a Souths man, since day dot, and he used his success and wealth to help the club he always supported as a diehard. He doesn't plaster his name about the place and he's a part-owner rather than a sponsor. It's not about the Russell Crowe brand.

Even Lee H has had a history of flipping and flopping about with his sponsorship of other clubs, secondary to Wests Tigers.
I heard a story about Lee today from a family member he is not a great person and he is off side with all his family I also heard about his house he really is loaded
 
Man got triggered hahahaView attachment 3725

Beauty of being a fan is we see things differently.
But lets review the signings on 22 form that both have done for 23:

Klemmer was better than Pele (despite the Klemmer hate history)
Api was better than Mahoney (Mahoney struggled during the year, injury played a part though)
Kikau was better than Papa especially over the last 10 weeks
Sutton and Bateman are meh

To support the signings based on 22 form:

We both lack a fullback
Our backs are ordinary.
Bulldogs have JAC and Kiraz (like this kid) cool rest meh
We both have unproven forward depth charts, TPJ inconsistent more off than on & Thompson is solid but over priced (Joffa has him covered + Stefano). King another I like somewhat but don't think he has another level. For us aside from Joffa and Stefano it's all hope they come good and become NRL week in week out quality. (Twal is from reports potentially 1 more concussion from retirement).

Re Moses.
I would be surprised if he comes this way, not expecting it to happen.
Bulldogs 3rd Party deals and setup for win now is more attractive than our position of setting up for 2yrs time to win. The Bulldogs are 1-2yrs infront of us on the team setup phase.

We will be lucky to play finals in 23 let alone 24 even if Moses joins as our backs need an uplift & forward kids we are banking on will need to step up. Our squad setup is aiming for Benji timeframe & I really doubt that's something Moses will want to be apart of.
 
Kennel guy over here, no disrespect but I wish the best for us and Tigers. I'm tired of seeing the Storm, Panthers and Roosters on top, and i hope the bottom team like us and the Tigers finally get back to the top. Now regarding, the Mahoney/Api, Papalii/Kikau and Klemmer/Thompson situation.

Api has signed a 2 year contract with an Mutual Option for the 3rd year. He just turned 30 yesterday and when the 3 year contract runs out, who will replace him? We've signed a top 4 hooker who is 23 and has signed a 4 year contract. I will be honest Api is better than Mahoney, but his body can't last that long and age effects speed. That is one of Api's advantages and it's what makes him play good.

I absolutely disgaree on the Papalii/Kikau situation. Papalii is a top 3 second rower, but Kikau is 1000 times better. He's won 3 or 4 Dally M medals year after year and in 2022 he has been very consistent. Papalii has had 1-2 good years and Kikau has way more experience and can create nothing into something. Especially, now with Burton, Kikau, the Fox and whoever the left centre is.

Klemmer is miles better than Luke Thompson and there is no argument on that. Great signing.
Lol. Disagree on almost all points.
I don't rate Mahoney particularly highly. Good defender, great service but don't think he has much smarts. I certainly wouldn't have him as a top 4 hooker (unless you just meant he was in a top 4 team).
API I think he is currently the smartest hooker in the game and I don't see that changing. Tigers have some highly rated young hookers so hopefully he can mentor them into quality first graders.

Kikau I do probably rate slightly higher than Papallii. He certainly has a better skillset, but he cannot match the work rate of Papallii. I think Kikau is the better addition if you already have a strong pack whereas Papallii is the better addition if looking to strengthen your pack.
I also think Thompson hasn't played anywhere near his best. If he can stay on the park, and admittedly that appears to be a big if, then he is not too far behind Thompson.
Anyways I've no ill feelings towards the dogs, so good luck for next season.
 
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