Hastings - Reasons for leaving

[earl]

The team the year before didn't go as poorly,
And had much the same squad - With the addition of Hastings.
He was our big in for 22 and we went worse... Than we've ever gone.

Where's the speculation in that?

The situation is more complex than this though. It's the same as blaming Brooks for years of poor performances by the club. It's a team sport.

Sheens tanked last season as much as anyone.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

No - Give me some credit.

Winning 4 games - Wooden Spoon....
are our worst results in history.

We won zero games with Brooks at 7 this year, whilst Hastings played a key role in all our wins. Fair enough you have some thoughts about him off the field but why are you trying to discredit what he did for us on the field this year? Brooks actually credited Hastings for the impact the had on the team.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

The situation is more complex than this though. It's the same as blaming Brooks for years of poor performances by the club. It's a team sport.

Sheens tanked last season as much as anyone.

Sheens threw Noddy under the bus & said it's his team so all the blame for the spoon gets deflected off him.

 

[earl]

We won zero games with Brooks at 7 this year, whilst Hastings played a key role in all our wins. Fair enough you have some thoughts about him off the field but why are you trying to discredit what he did for us on the field this year? Brooks actually credited Hastings for the impact the had on the team.

Brooks appears to be more of an edge runner of the footy. He can create out there and did a good job. Hastings was much better in my opinion organizing in the middle.

I would have had Hastings at 7 and I think Doueihi at 6. I think Doueihi is a better edge runner than Brooks.

The issue is money comes into the picture as well and Hastings and Doueihi both appear to want big bucks. I know Brooks is reportedly on a good salary but he won't get that once his current contract is over.

 

[Batmans Parents]

Gee there's some strange analysis of social media and interviews here. These attacks on Hastings character are unnecessary. Maybe he was good for the team, maybe not; but it feels like revisionism to treat him like some kind of cancer at our club.

The only thing we can judge is his performance on the field and I have no doubt he was all effort and commitment out there with none of the Mitchell Moses like carry-on.

Why is there a need to rip into a player just because we've traded him? Not really his doing.

Because the Brooks cult and apologists are the equivalent of a pack of bitchy insecure highschool girls.

Anyone who has ever presented even the tiniest threat to their lord and saviour, they have to immediately try to tear down. See AD, Hastings who have outplayed Brooks over the last two years respectively. It’s one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen and I can’t think of another player across any professional sport who has such a delusional following.

 

[cktiger]

The team the year before didn't go as poorly,
And had much the same squad - With the addition of Hastings.
He was our big in for 22 and we went worse... Than we've ever gone.

Where's the speculation in that?

Conveniently forgetting the number of top 30 players missing large chunks of the season with injury and the coach getting knifed had any impact on results?

 

[twentyforty]

Well we currently have zero halfbacks in the NRL squad

How many did we start with?

 

[Kaito]

Slow player with massive ego

Yep. Who cares about the tripper,
He's a Knight now. Didn't see Klemmer
come out and talk on his former
club in any article since his move -
says a lot. Especially considering
It's reported he fell out with coaches.
I'm riding with Brooksy to glory

 

[Batmans Parents]

Conveniently forgetting the number of top 30 players missing large chunks of the season with injury and the coach getting knifed had any impact on results?

Of course he is forgetting because it goes against reality of the situation. Funny how he and the cult believe that Brooks failing for 8+ years isn’t his fault but Hastings, who played a chunk of the season injured before the Broncos injury, played with a roster decimated by injuries, had his coach sacked half way through the season and then Sheens decided to tank the rest, deserves the blame.

Got to love the consistency of the cult 😂

 

[Kaito]

Of course he is forgetting because it goes against reality of the situation. Funny how he and the cult believe that Brooks failing for 8+ years isn’t his fault but Hastings, who played a chunk of the season injured before the Broncos injury, played with a roster decimated by injuries, had his coach sacked half way through the season and then Sheens decided to tank the rest, deserves the blame.

Got to love the consistency of the cult 😂

Wah wah wah. I wanted to hold him
to his contract too but guess what?
He's gone brother. No point going
in circles, I can assure you the club
and everyone involved has moved on,
I humbly suggest forum members do
too for their own sake. Let's see
how Brooks goes with this pack

 

[DGilly]

He was our best player by a mile. Our club is run by clowns

 

[Batmans Parents]

Wah wah wah. I wanted to hold him
to his contract too but guess what?
He's gone brother. No point going
in circles, I can assure you the club
and everyone involved has moved on,
I humbly suggest forum members do
too for their own sake. Let's see
how Brooks goes with this pack

I get you mate, but it's pretty difficult after years of seeing the club let good players go whilst keeping one of the biggest anchors of the team.

If he is as good as his cult believes, he should dominate behind this pack and I hope he does. History suggests its not likely.

 

[TillLindemann]

Conveniently forgetting the number of top 30 players missing large chunks of the season with injury and the coach getting knifed had any impact on results?

and the player in question missing with injury himself too. When Hastings was out we were clearly a shambles, when he was in we had results against some of the NRL's stronger teams.

There is no question that Hastings is a better half than Brooks, and he was on less money. Brooks should have been walked to Newcastle at gunpoint by our coach.

But I guess we just have to trust in the wisdom of a coach we have sacked previously for being shithouse, who then went to England where he was shithouse again.

 

[twentyforty]

You can see what you want or choose to see.

I see Sheens, Benji and possibly Robbie as well, that also viewed Hastings as other than WT best halfback and along with getting Klemmer, that is why he is no longer here. Don't think that is up for argument.

I would have kept him on as a ball distributor and back-up in the halves, whilst they chose let him go immediately.

It all seems a little odd to me?
I really don’t know what to make of it?
I do think both players, while being next to the best in their respective teams, were on the outer at their clubs for some reason.

 

[Camel2281]

Hastings was the Knights' Plan B for 7. Brooks was the Knights' Plan A. You don't believe the decision makers at WTs so perhaps you may believe the decision makers at another NRL club.

I love how when Brooks'salary comes up, you bang on about the media making stuff up etc etc, but when it's the other way around and suits your agenda it's fact. How do you know Brooks was the Knights plan A? I live in Newcastle and the whole town is stoked that they got Hastings and not Brooks.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

The team the year before didn't go as poorly,
And had much the same squad - With the addition of Hastings.
He was our big in for 22 and we went worse... Than we've ever gone.

Where's the speculation in that?

I speculate the average team on the park was heaps worse than the year before taking injuries and suspensions into account.

Especially as Hastings himself missed a large chunk of the year. I’d speculate we wouldn’t have got the spoon if he played the whole season.

 

[twentyforty]

Of course he is forgetting because it goes against reality of the situation. Funny how he and the cult believe that Brooks failing for 8+ years isn’t his fault but Hastings, who played a chunk of the season injured before the Broncos injury, played with a roster decimated by injuries, had his coach sacked half way through the season and then Sheens decided to tank the rest, deserves the blame.

Got to love the consistency of the cult 😂

How is it that a player can win awards like DallyM and Kelly Barnes Medal, in fact the most Kelly Barnes Medals of any player in the entire history of Wests Tigers, and yet still be such a failure?
This is the enigma behind the legend and probably why Brooks has such a huge following.

 

[twentyforty]

The team the year before didn't go as poorly,
And had much the same squad - With the addition of Hastings.
He was our big in for 22 and we went worse... Than we've ever gone.

Where's the speculation in that?

The 2022 results are the own goal of the club’s administrators.
It’s just plain wrong to single out a particular person in the playing group to shoulder the spoon performance.

 

[Camel2281]

How is it that a player can win awards like DallyM and Kelly Barnes Medal, in fact the most Kelly Barnes Medals of any player in the entire history of Wests Tigers, and yet still be such a failure?
This is the enigma behind the legend and probably why Brooks has such a huge following.

The Kelly Barnes one is interesting for me. When Brooks got it in 2021 and it caused us to again be a laughing stock in the media, it was voted for by Madge, Hartigan and a board member. Those guys also would be trying to give Luke confidence for the following season etc and could have used the award for ulterior motives. Also being voted on by the coach means that whoever is the biggest brown noser could be getting the award, seems that Brown nosing is how Brooks has survived all these years

I found it interesting that in 2021 that Brooks didn't finish in the top 5 in the players player votes despite having played every game

 

[twentyforty]

The Kelly Barnes one is interesting for me. When Brooks got it in 2021 and it caused us to again be a laughing stock in the media, it was voted for by Madge, Hartigan and a board member. Those guys also would be trying to give Luke confidence for the following season etc and could have used the award for ulterior motives. Also being voted on by the coach means that whoever is the biggest brown noser could be getting the award, seems that Brown nosing is how Brooks has survived all these years

I found it interesting that in 2021 that Brooks didn't finish in the top 5 in the players player votes despite having played every game

Interesting.
Brooks is a likeable kinda guy, but doubt he would be a brown noser?
Looks like the sort of person who's just trying to fit in with the team?
I think Stapelton was the third judge?