Luke Brooks #167

Kaito said:
I'm not his biggest fan, I hope he
does well for the club this year and
himself, but saying the abuse aimed
at him is 'justified' and 'self inflicted'
is crazy talk. Straight up crazy talk
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Iyo. How else can a forum operate other than on performance.
K, I agree that personal slurs, abuse etc are not welcome but in the court of public opinion, at least far as as I’m concerned, it revolves around expectation and actual performance and I don’t think that he has performed as expected.
Being in the public eye promotes opinions, some people wrongly go the personal route, others like myself prefer to analyse the facts.
And the facts are he’s been bloody disappointing in his output, and if that’s not justified and self inflicted then I’m not here.
 
Brooks has copped plenty of criticism from fans - some definitely unjust - but fans follow a club not Brooks and some clearly have seen enough.
Sheens has been appointed to coach all the players not Brooks alone - fans identify with the club not Brooks - and the club for all its failures has looked after Brooks very well. Every coach he has had has publically backed him and continue to do so. When the team starts winning with Brooks part of that everyone will be happy until then those who don't rate him will continue to be critical.
 
Halbrowne61 said:
Iyo. How else can a forum operate other than on performance.
K, I agree that personal slurs, abuse etc are not welcome but in the court of public opinion, at least far as as I’m concerned, it revolves around expectation and actual performance and I don’t think that he has performed as expected.
Being in the public eye promotes opinions, some people wrongly go the personal route, others like myself prefer to analyse the facts.
And the facts are he’s been bloody disappointing in his output, and if that’s not justified and self inflicted then I’m not here.
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That's a much more measured response
than your earlier one, I agree to an extent.
Analysis and criticism of his game are
warranted but the thin line gets very
blurry beyond that. That's my opinion.
 
Winston Churchill said:
The guy has been garbage and THE biggest reason the Tigers haven't made the finals in 10 years essentially playing without an NRL quality half back the entire time.

All criticism is completely justified. Being a childish sook about it, with daddy Sheens and his family members accounts trying to pointlessly defend him doesn't wash away 10 years of being pathetic at your job, only justifies the majorities opinion further on him. Not only being a weak player but weak minded and should be nowhere near a position of directing a team around. Little wonder as soon as a bad call goes against the Tigers the team always dropped it's head, imagine how fragile the guy in the middle has been. The half we had last year with heart, bite, and a personality was let go.

The critisim of late has been nothing. He has until round 10, if the Tigers are not at least 7-3 the daggers and vitriol towards him will be more than anything seen before.
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Winston, Brooks has Marshall and Sheens in his corner backing him, two handy supporters. I don't believe any player that has a career of ten years in the NRL is garbage. Shockingly for you, supporters other than family members and Sheens/Marshall back Brooks as well. This may surprise you as much as when you claimed Singapore was a fortress only to discover the back door was open.
 
Exactly, which is why I am hoping he turns back the clock, and if the Pom is correct, he will have even more support !
I hope he goes very well coz that means the team will be going well ( or at least that’s the way it’s supposed to go !)
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
s

Hastings is gone mate you keep mentioning him, seriously go support Newcastle
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If you went and asked Hastings, he'd be happy because he is on an increased contract, playing in his favourite position and WTs released him so he could take up the offer.
 
Kaito said:
That's a much more measured response
than your earlier one, I agree to an extent.
Analysis and criticism of his game are
warranted but the thin line gets very
blurry beyond that. That's my opinion.
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Same sentiment written differently. K, we are on the same side and want the same outcome !
Cheers
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
He's got a pretty potent pack this year and probably the best, if not second best, DH in the game.
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Pretty much. If ( when , imo) he plays as per the last decade I’m not sure what the excuses from his fan club are gunna be. Maybe it’ll be “brooks need time to gel with “insert something /someone here”
 
Winston, Brooks has Marshall and Sheens in his corner backing him, two handy supporters. I don't believe any player that has a career of ten years in the NRL is garbage. Shockingly for you, supporters other than family members and Sheens/Marshall back Brooks as well. This may surprise you as much as when you claimed Singapore was a fortress only to discover the back door was open.

We all want to back Brooksy. Likeable, but has been underperforming ( yes I know,for various reasons) Just needs to sharpen up ! Sheens says, score more tries, I can live with that.
His support from TS, BM and RF needs to translate to on field performance, otherwise its simply the old mates act.
 
Winston Churchill said:
I love how it's now considered abuse by the Brooks family accounts if you call into question 10 years of rubbish and pathetic performances. Besides being called an imp or dwarf due to his looks, I haven't seen anyone abuse Luke the person on here just the Tigers playmaker, Luke "pathetic rubbish" Brooks. And if imp and dwarf gets you pearl clutching, what's said on the footy field is a few degrees north of that, I don't think footy is for you if that got your knickers in a knot.
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Not exclusive to WTF, much worse has
been said at our games, on various
other social media sites, in public etc.
Doesn't make someone who wants
him/the team 2 go good delusional,
or a family member haha. It's all good
 
The Fresh Oil said:
That is a head scratcher. I’ve seen the bullying term thrown around by the select few Brooks family members but all I can remember is Imp? The rest is being critical of his lack of football skills. You know, his job.

It’s almost worth bombing another season with Brooks just to wait for the inevitable fail and they can go join whatever super league forum at the club he pops up at and haunt there.
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It's pretty obvious at this stage it's some sort of Stockholm syndrome thing going on. There is zero reasons besides the obvious family accounts that anyone can justify giving him another 11th season chance, unless we have some wolves in sheep's clothing going on here.
 
Im going to repeat myself just this once...any fan,supporter or member has a varying amount of reasons for criticising Luke,myself included...
Having said that we can back and fro abuse toward him or each other until the cows come home,it wont make one iota of difference if Luke doesnt improve his game this season coming..
He has some wonderful recruits of high calibre alongside of him as well as great youth of high potential to work with this year,plus the Sheens factor,which remains to be seen after 10 years out of the NRL,so if all the media hysteria is on the money and players ,coaches and staff are all enjoying the new feeling of happiness and fun in this preseason and a very good attitude throughout the club,then success awaits us and many good wins are ahead....lets all start cheering and supporting this TEAM like never before,we hit rock bottom last year and the only way to fix that pain which the team inflicted upon itself,not entirely the whole team or individuals fault,is to pick themselves up,dust the dirt off and go hard from the start and redeem themselves.....
WINNING CHANGES EVERYTHING AND EASES THE PAIN...
 
Kaito said:
Not exclusive to WTF, much worse has
been said at our games, on various
other social media sites, in public etc.
Doesn't make someone who wants
him/the team 2 go good delusional,
or a family member haha. It's all good
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It’s wrong to take it to that level, all I’d say( forcefully)if I was in earshot would be
“Come on Brooks lift your game to the required level. We need you firing, Let’s go”
Or words to that effect.
But you and I both know some of the things that people say and write are
1) driven by frustration and anger and,
2) not being able to express their feelings logically.
I hope we’ve taken this discussion as far as it needs to go.
Cheers mate.
 
TrueTiger said:
Im going to repeat myself just this once...any fan,supporter or member has a varying amount of reasons for criticising Luke,myself included...
Having said that we can back and fro abuse toward him or each other until the cows come home,it wont make one iota of difference if Luke doesnt improve his game this season coming..
He has some wonderful recruits of high calibre alongside of him as well as great youth of high potential to work with this year,plus the Sheens factor,which remains to be seen after 10 years out of the NRL,so if all the media hysteria is on the money and players ,coaches and staff are all enjoying the new feeling of happiness and fun in this preseason and a very good attitude throughout the club,then success awaits us and many good wins are ahead....lets all start cheering and supporting this TEAM like never before,we hit rock bottom last year and the only way to fix that pain which the team inflicted upon itself,not entirely the whole team or individuals fault,is to pick themselves up,dust the dirt off and go hard from the start and redeem themselves.....
WINNING CHANGES EVERYTHING AND EASES THE PAIN...
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I honestly would love to see Brooks go well as it would mean the Tigers go well and the opposite of everything that's happened with him in the team so far. The justified critisim of him being pathetic at his job would immediacy cease. The problem is when you have a decade of evidence to back up him being rubbish it's impossible for the rational to see past that. If Brooks is playing like his busted usual self by rd10 it would be nice if the apologists could finally admit how wrong they have been. Although it'll probably be the usual just give him another season thing they always go on about.
 
Halbrowne61 said:
Winston, Brooks has Marshall and Sheens in his corner backing him, two handy supporters. I don't believe any player that has a career of ten years in the NRL is garbage. Shockingly for you, supporters other than family members and Sheens/Marshall back Brooks as well. This may surprise you as much as when you claimed Singapore was a fortress only to discover the back door was open.

We all want to back Brooksy. Likeable, but has been underperforming ( yes I know,for various reasons) Just needs to sharpen up ! Sheens says, score more tries, I can live with that.
His support from TS, BM and RF needs to translate to on field performance, otherwise its simply the old mates act.
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We've a strong forward pack (now) and are attempting to recruit one of the best 7s in the competition. It would be difficult for Kenny and Sterling to operate effectively behind the pack we previously ran onto the field.

There are also a few fast young backs on the horizon in the lower grades who will strengthen our team without the need to go to market.

In addition, from what we know the coaching team want the players to return to a more attacking game which imo will better suit many of our players including Brooks.

Sheens and Marshall will no doubt have Brooks performing to a role which matches his skillset which differs from the one size fits all approach of the last few years.

So there are a package of improvements which hopefully will see the club on the periphery of the 8 with better performances.
 
Speaking of Sharks , nasty headline about Nicho Haynes Mum today.
That’s got get into his head until sorted, and could get even worse if allegations proved correct.
I think he’s already a bit fragile and working with a pscyhologist.
Don’t do anything stupid Nicho.
 
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