Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[crazycat]

There is zero point giving him a deadline if we have nothing else lined up.

We can talk to other players and start the process with them if we want.

Re giving Moses a deadline.
Why not? We can't reach out with 1m offers to RTS or Olam or any other player while we have our cap zapped by Moses. If they both say "yes" then we would be in breech of the cap...
i.e.
Bulldogs under Haslier, Brisbane, Easts, Melbourne in 2007/2009....

Well hey I guess if other fish bite we should just sign them, aim for a grand final and stuff the books. What were going to get the spoon?

 

[Alltheway]

I think results will deservedly be on him, good or bad. He failed to find a coach so appointed himself. It's either brilliance or madness.

That’s a rubbish call. He had no choice, as he had no options. As stated by telltaiils we have been given a wide berth by managers fir 11 years. But before that who was the coach?? Before the wide berth and media scrutiny. He’s not the messiah, he’s just a very naughty boy!
But when te times were good for us Sheens was in charge. So I am willing to back him.

 

[Tito Santana]

That worked out really good with the big 4 when Ivan put a deadline on them.

This time it’s different.

If he signs with us he gets an extra $2 million. We can afford to put that pressure on. Meanwhile as we wait we can’t sign anyone else because of not knowing what he’s doing.

Way to think it through champ.

 

[Tucker]

I don’t believe Ciraldo didn’t want a bar of us. As I have said he was scared of by the continued media witch hunt that is on our club! Look at the facts the dogs got what two wooden spoons, and u here nothing?? What the dogs won 2 or 3 more games then us with all their recruitment success in the off season, many high profile people picking them to be in the 8. Yet nothing about their poor form over several years, in fact worse than us fit quite a while until last season. It’s a media witch hunt, who from well I let u guess. Certainly takes the pressure off certain clubs if there’s a whipping boy!
Not saying our club has been great, but name a successful merger??? We’re trying to change that narrative books a looking good, recruitments are on the up. Even if we don’t get the slimy turd at least we are in the hunt also pushing the sea slugs to spend more.

Just because you think this is the case, doesn’t make it so.
Ciraldo turned us down simply because it was too big of a job for a greenhorn. He even said as much, stating we needed an experienced coach.

 

[gallagher]

That’s a rubbish call. He had no choice, as he had no options. As stated by telltaiils we have been given a wide berth by managers fir 11 years. But before that who was the coach?? Before the wide berth and media scrutiny. He’s not the messiah, he’s just a very naughty boy!
But when te times were good for us Sheens was in charge. So I am willing to back him.

Who was the coach before? Madge was, who Sheens sacked. Then couldn't replace him. He will need to carry the results he achieves.

 

[tigerman 0]

Why does every Manly coach have a gruff voice?
Siebold
Hasler
Toovey

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Re giving Moses a deadline.
Why not? We can't reach out with 1m offers to RTS or Olam or any other player while we have our cap zapped by Moses. If they both say "yes" then we would be in breech of the cap...
i.e.
Bulldogs under Haslier, Brisbane, Easts, Melbourne in 2007/2009....

Well hey I guess if other fish bite we should just sign them, aim for a grand final and stuff the books. What were going to get the spoon?

We do not know at what stage the recruitment is but I'd suggest with the amount of cap space involved an answer has already been provided. It may have occurred some time ago. Let's be patient.

 

[Tucker]

That’s a rubbish call. He had no choice, as he had no options.

…which makes his decision to axe an experienced first grade coach who did want to be here all the more ridiculous.

 

[Tucker]

Why does every Manly coach have a gruff voice?
Siebold
Hasler
Toovey

Because they are manly men

 

[Tiger Tail]

When Moses left I never wanted him back. I do accept however that he would offer us a point of difference from our current options. Do I think he’s worth $1.4m? No. But that’s what we have to offer to match other clubs. There isn’t enough talent around. The vibe lately seems to be he is staying at the Eels. If he does, then we move on to another target and keep working on our pathways.

 

[cktiger]

Wow, emoji’s, again how mature! Weak peoples way of explaining emotions. But carry on….

Gee sorry Mr Shakespeare.
How about …
“I find it hilarious that you didn’t have the necessary intelligence to comprehend that he was, in fact, making fun of your juvenile attempt at blaming Maguire for everything by calling him Fadge.”
PS How old are you again?
Have you ever, in fact, gone “Alltheway” or is it on your bucket list?

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Re giving Moses a deadline.
Why not? We can't reach out with 1m offers to RTS or Olam or any other player while we have our cap zapped by Moses. If they both say "yes" then we would be in breech of the cap...
i.e.
Bulldogs under Haslier, Brisbane, Easts, Melbourne in 2007/2009....

Well hey I guess if other fish bite we should just sign them, aim for a grand final and stuff the books. What were going to get the spoon?

We can reach out and talk to RTS etc. If those talks move to formal offer stage then we take the required steps to do so.

We have fullback and other half money outside of Moses that can be spent which would be easily $1m on top of Moses to spend. How else would Brooks, Laurie or other positions get filled.

If we need Moses cash to provide a formal offer we can then withdraw from the race. We have cap space & cash.

Deadline is just something impatient fans want just so they know.

 

[Tito Santana]

We can reach out and talk to RTS etc. If those talks move to formal offer stage then we take the required steps to do so.

We have fullback and other half money outside of Moses that can be spent which would be easily $1m on top of Moses to spend. How else would Brooks, Laurie or other positions get filled.

If we need Moses cash to provide a formal offer we can then withdraw from the race. We have cap space & cash.

Deadline is just something impatient fans want just so they know.

Even more reason to put a deadline on him so we can entice other players. It’s not hard guys. We’re in pole position with the best offer. It’s now take it or leave it.

 

[twentyforty]

That’s a rubbish call. He had no choice, as he had no options. As stated by telltaiils we have been given a wide berth by managers fir 11 years. But before that who was the coach?? Before the wide berth and media scrutiny. He’s not the messiah, he’s just a very naughty boy!
But when te times were good for us Sheens was in charge. So I am willing to back him.

I think Sheens is doing a great job rebuilding the bridges the club had burnt. Isaac, Stephen and Mitch in particular. I doubt we sign Klemmer or Bateman otherwise.

 

[Alltheway]

…which makes his decision to axe an experienced first grade coach who did want to be here all the more ridiculous.

Again sacked the coach because;
A poor performance.
B to get Ciraldo as he said he would come if Fadge was gone.
If u can’t see that Fadge was going nowhere, then there’s no help for you.

 

[Tucker]

Again sacked the coach because;
A poor performance.
B to get Ciraldo as he said he would come if Fadge was gone.
If u can’t see that Fadge was going nowhere, then there’s no help for you.

Besides the point. There is a time and place for those decisions. You DO NOT sack your coach mid season unless you have his replacement delivered.

 

[gallagher]

Again sacked the coach because;
A poor performance.
B to get Ciraldo as he said he would come if Fadge was gone.
If u can’t see that Fadge was going nowhere, then there’s no help for you.

All his decisions, so why do you think he wont need to take responsibly of the results?

 

[hammertime]

Even more reason to put a deadline on him so we can entice other players. It’s not hard guys. We’re in pole position with the best offer. It’s now take it or leave it.

A deadline is only going to be negative. No reason for it. There's nothing stopping us talk to others. If we have a plan B ready to sign, then yes, you could add a deadline. But otherwise, it only get someone's back up.

 

[BirchgroveTigers]

Proof will be in the pudding with Sheens. He gets us top 8 either this year or next, the spoon in 22 will be seen as worth it. He doesn’t, it won’t.

Important to remember large reason we did so poorly was loaning out players to front load contracts and increase cap for this year and next. Was always going to be a bad 2022 but was an attempt to fast track a rebuild. We now get to see if it has worked.

 

[Tito Santana]

A deadline is only going to be negative. No reason for it. There's nothing stopping us talk to others. If we have a plan B ready to sign, then yes, you could add a deadline. But otherwise, it only get someone's back up.

Well how long do you give him to?????

Why not let him stay at Parra and go hard for RTS to play fullback and buy Jesse Ramien???

Would be great to have Moses but we are losing time.