John Bateman #268

[twentyforty]

I heard Sheens say he won't play reserve grade. It does my head in. It's like there is something wrong with playing reserve grade but the best way to get that fitness and timing etc is to play a game.

It’s not a good look to pay over $1m for an international to run around in reserves.
Shows how much the club is reacting to criticism from journos.

 

[GCfan]

I’m ok with Sheens taking his time with Bateman , media would be all over him and us if he goes out underdone ,and is not up to speed on our players , if the rest of the guys perform starting today and get a win Bateman in round 4 should be no issue , don’t panic people and for god sake don’t listen to Kent and others , they didn’t know shit and are only speculating due to club giving them nothing

I had a laugh when Sheens had a dig at the 360 guys in his presser yesterday. Despite him saying he’s too old to care what people think, the media has clearly pissed him off with this

 

[earl]

It’s not a good look to pay over $1m for an international to run around in reserves.
Shows how much the club is reacting to criticism from journos.

The idea is to get him playing to his best and then hopefully the team benefits. I don't get the idea of not competing in reserve grade.

It's a 4 year contract and I doubt it's a $1m a season.

 

[earl]

(IMO) When it happens:
JB will come off the bench or on the run on team.
He will not come back via the reserves.

Sheens made that pretty clear. I want him ready and I don't want him played too early and for him to have a shocker.

I just don't get why you don't play him in reserves for 20 minutes or so just to get him up to speed.

I'm not the coach and to be fair I don't really care so long as this guy turns into a quality player for us and not a dud contract.

 

[KingRobbie]

It might not be but it smells off doesn't it. Give him 20 minutes off the bench in reserves.

He does seem to be training with the guys and not in rehab.

He hadn’t trained/competed in a team environment for four months and has been training with us for less than two weeks.

Can someone explain why there’s shock behind him not playing right now?

There’s a reason teams have full pre-seasons before they ease into trial matches.

 

[tony soprano]

(IMO) When it happens:
JB will come off the bench or on the run on team.
He will not come back via the reserves.

Sheens said he won't be playing reserves yesterday

 

[KingRobbie]

Imagine being upset about any of this. He'll play when he's ready. He came over very close to Round 1, and no two players are the same. Just because Lote played after only a week or so with the team, doesn't mean that John has to. John is a specific player with specific needs....... and there is literally no rush.

People also leave out the fact that Tuqiri played his last game of Union the week before he played his first game for us.

Bateman hasn’t played for four months and has been training with the team for a total of thirteen days.

 

[tony soprano]

He hadn’t trained/competed in a team environment for four months and has been training with us for less than two weeks.

Can someone explain why there’s shock behind him not playing right now?

There’s a reason teams have full pre-seasons before they ease into trial matches.

No better tigers debut then lote

 

[happy_tiger]

Johnny is smiling his ass off and still getting paid extremely well to do so ......

 

[KingRobbie]

No better tigers debut then lote

Agree.

Lote was still playing Union one week before he played for us.

Was already match-fit.

 

[426Tlgerland]

It’s not a good look to pay over $1m for an international to run around in reserves.
Shows how much the club is reacting to criticism from journos.

Wow I don’t know we paid $ 1 mill for Bateman per season , where did that come from , maybe $ 750/800

 

[earl]

He hadn’t trained/competed in a team environment for four months and has been training with us for less than two weeks.

Can someone explain why there’s shock behind him not playing right now?

There’s a reason teams have full pre-seasons before they ease into trial matches.

I get this. I just don't get why you wouldn't play him in reserve grade even for a small period.

Sure he isn't going to be up to speed but he'll get it back and gain confidence if he can perform in reserves.

In saying that it's not a big deal. The issue is that he is a risky contract and we need him to be a weapon. If that happens I don't care if he misses 8 weeks.

 

[twentyforty]

The idea is to get him playing to his best and then hopefully the team benefits. I don't get the idea of not competing in reserve grade.

It's a 4 year contract and I doubt it's a $1m a season.

I doubt it’s $1m per season. Where did you get that idea Earl? I think Sheens has a very high opinion of Bateman, I think he sees him as the catalyst for change in a team desperate to get hungry and regain that will to win. For a back rower who has that domino factor, he’s gotta be worth $750k. When you add the $250k transfer fee and a few bucks resettlement costs to make him feel even more wanted and heighten his expectations of his role. Yep, I’d say it cost the club over a $1m to get him here.

 

[twentyforty]

Wow I don’t know we paid $ 1 mill for Bateman per season , where did that come from , maybe $ 750/800

From Earl.

 

[earl]

Yep, I’d say it cost the club over a $1m to get him here.

Maybe. That sounds expensive but all I care about is what we pay under the cap which wouldn't be 1 million per season or close to it.

 

[earl]

It’s not a good look to pay over $1m for an international to run around in reserves.

This is where I got that figure from. I doubt that figure especially per season and under the cap.

 

[earl]

From Earl.

Which I took from your post. I understand you are stating including transfer fees etc but to me it gives the wrong impression.

 

[old_man_tiger]

He hadn’t trained/competed in a team environment for four months and has been training with us for less than two weeks.

Can someone explain why there’s shock behind him not playing right now?

There’s a reason teams have full pre-seasons before they ease into trial matches.

The main area we look bad is the chair having a crack on radio again imo.

 

[jadtiger]

Wow I don’t know we paid $ 1 mill for Bateman per season , where did that come from , maybe $ 750/800

I think you will find people are factoring in his 250k transfer fee as well so it totals 1m when you include his rumoured 750k

 

[happy_tiger]

I get this. I just don't get why you wouldn't play him in reserve grade even for a small period.

Sure he isn't going to be up to speed but he'll get it back and gain confidence if he can perform in reserves.

In saying that it's not a big deal. The issue is that he is a risky contract and we need him to be a weapon. If that happens I don't care if he misses 8 weeks.

8 weeks would a massive deal