Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Demps said:
Our centre options are abysmal.
I'm not opposed to moving AD there.
Could see that being a positive for the team - if he makes the most of that change.

The 40/20 , I think we got lucky with that and he was over the line..... the strike was good and he could've got it from a safer position but it played off.

These two situations in an 80 minute game - is that all you've got ?

The opposition and the loss of 2 of their spine (their better players too) players and multiple send off's....

Brooks didn't and can't do his job.
Move him to 6, buy a 7... we've done all this before.
Time to just admit defeat and pull the plug.
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I think both need to be moved on rather than get moved into a different position.

AD strength is a ball runner but he has more weaknesses that just aren’t evolving. Putting him at center could hide some of them but his defensive attributes will be found out.

Brooks just doesn’t work. He did do some good things but like AD the week before - they both can do some individual good things but the biggest issue for both as chief play makers is when we need them they just get lost, go quite and just don’t lead/know how to win. The team around them don’t respond to either of them. They both don’t setup their sides & no one is playing in a formation. Brooks with 3-1 kicks behind instead if a cut out ball to the chest is perfect example of not reading the play & executing how it should be.
 
Demps said:
Has his positives and negatives.

There needs to be some future planning taking place around these clear issues within the team.

Personally would start with dropping Nofo and Brooks.... then re assess after the Dogs game.
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After yesterday AD should be dropped.
His effort was more costly than anyones I thought.
 
Demps said:
Our centre options are abysmal.
I'm not opposed to moving AD there.
Could see that being a positive for the team - if he makes the most of that change.

The 40/20 , I think we got lucky with that and he was over the line..... the strike was good and he could've got it from a safer position but it played off.

These two situations in an 80 minute game - is that all you've got ?

The opposition and the loss of 2 of their spine (their better players too) players and multiple send off's....

Brooks didn't and can't do his job.
Move him to 6, buy a 7... we've done all this before.
Time to just admit defeat and pull the plug.
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what 7 did we buy ? Hastings? we can do better than Hastings.
Do think a George Williams Brooks combo or Moses Brooks combo will work well.
First round Brooks was terrible, yesterday much better he did a hell of a lot of defence too, he was not the reason we lost yesterday.
I don't think wakeham is much good but I would play Brooks as a 6 and running the ball. Only other option is Brooks 7 Laurie 6 and don't particularly like that either.
As you have said Laurie could play wing and maybe we drop nofo ?
The sticking point with the club at present as I understand is the length of Brooks contract not necessarily the dollar value I think the club is happy with the dollar value for 2024 and beyond. Still think a bit to play out with Moses tbh
As for AD we need a centre and he fits the bill at present and has played well there before.
 
Demps said:
Think Laurie is a chance....

Speaks volumes they moved him to see what Staines could do.

Noticeably faster and safer, imo
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If Sheens does that Staines needs a good 6-8week min crack at it. Gets told it’s yours. Not a chop this week and Laurie is back. That takes us to round 10 when Bula or some other kids could step up if we want to focus on the future.
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
The hysteria is justified. We bombed the game.
Our attacking setup coaching structures are terrible.

The game is built off calls not going your way and momentum. The team that handled those wins. Even with those no calls we had more than ample opportunities to score more points.

25mins with a player short, 3 key players missing, multiple kick outs on the full, handling errors in their half and we did nothing says it all. We had more than enough momentum. The best we could do was an almost double movement bash and barge play. We couldn’t even get them short once.

We made 18 handling errors, completed 63% of possession and still ended the game with 52% of the game’s possession. We made more errors than against the Titans.

We didn’t improve infact we got worse.
It was the worst nrl game of the year by a mile and that’s on us not the ref or no calls going our way.

Our forwards are trying to be something they aren’t. Stef has made more errors in 2 games than in 40 games. Klem made the least mtrs in seasons. We have zero line runners. We have zero depth or structure to our attack. We are running 2 5/8th model and zero mechanism for a fullback to be the 2nd man in the line play.

There is soooo much wrong with us atm.
We have zero respect for the basics of the game and have wrong people executing.
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Excellent post.
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
I think both need to be moved on rather than get moved into a different position.

AD strength is a ball runner but he has more weaknesses that just aren’t evolving. Putting him at center could hide some of them but his defensive attributes will be found out.

Brooks just doesn’t work. He did do some good things but like AD the week before - they both can do some individual good things but the biggest issue for both as chief play makers is when we need them they just get lost, go quite and just don’t lead/know how to win. The team around them don’t respond to either of them. They both don’t setup their sides & no one is playing in a formation. Brooks with 3-1 kicks behind instead if a cut out ball to the chest is perfect example of not reading the play & executing how it should be.
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Yesss
 
Todd Packer said:
The hysteria is large, very large.
Kepoa's try is allowed, Twal puts the ball down and all the sooks are talking about how it's an improved performance and something to build on. Same game, but the perception changes for those who only look at the scoreboard.
The only change apart from Bateman Blore and Pole coming back would be at fullback. Laurie offers nothing.
I'd change the half as well but it's pointless suggesting that because it won't happen.
I also have a special offer for those of you who believe Hastings is a good guy who only wanted to apologise. I'm actually a Nigerian prince who has 60 million in gold that I can't access. If you can send me $50k to pay federal taxes I will share the gold with you.
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Maybe. Yes if a few things were different Tigers might have squeaked out of it.
But…a decent team would have beaten Newcastle comfortably yesterday, not assed their way to a narrow win. Newcastle played for 25 minutes with 12 on the park, and their best player gone after 10 minutes.
It was an inept performance from WT. Schoolboy footy at some stages in the second half.
 
Demps said:
Brooks didn't and can't do his job.
Move him to 6, buy a 7... we've done all this before.
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Mate - he is playing as a 6. He has been for the last couple of seasons. The club has gotten this right. The problem is AD/Api aren't delivering.

I am being harsh on Api. I think he is a class player and he just needs a bit of time and he will kill it for us.
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
The hysteria is justified. We bombed the game.
Our attacking setup coaching structures are terrible.

The game is built off calls not going your way and momentum. The team that handled those wins. Even with those no calls we had more than ample opportunities to score more points.

25mins with a player short, 3 key players missing, multiple kick outs on the full, handling errors in their half and we did nothing says it all. We had more than enough momentum. The best we could do was an almost double movement bash and barge play. We couldn’t even get them short once.

We made 18 handling errors, completed 63% of possession and still ended the game with 52% of the game’s possession. We made more errors than against the Titans.

We didn’t improve infact we got worse.
It was the worst nrl game of the year by a mile and that’s on us not the ref or no calls going our way.

Our forwards are trying to be something they aren’t. Stef has made more errors in 2 games than in 40 games. Klem made the least mtrs in seasons. We have zero line runners. We have zero depth or structure to our attack. We are running 2 5/8th model and zero mechanism for a fullback to be the 2nd man in the line play.

There is soooo much wrong with us atm.
We have zero respect for the basics of the game and have wrong people executing.
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Can't argue with what you've said. I will add everything just either seems one out with no decoy runners or back up . Even when it's a set play, it is usually played so far out from the defence they would have enough time the read the old SMH from cover to cover if we were a newspaper.
There's something missing in the mental attitude of the team that of the team that every other team seems to have - a desire to win. Either that or no faith in the halves creating something.
 
Telltails said:
Excellent post.
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So true. After two rounds you can see just about every team has improved. Tigers defence perhaps marginally better than last year but in attack they are diabolical. Yesterday they just seemed bereft of ideas and direction when the game was there for the taking. Newcastle practically gift wrapped it for us but still couldn’t ice it.
 
Most people seem to fall into the Brooks is sh*t or AD is sh*t or both are sh*t camps, but I happen to think both are perfectly adequate 5/8s. Brooks' greatest asset is his speed while AD's is his big frame and awkward running style. Either would do well playing outside a traditional organising halfback. But we don't have one of those in the entire club. Laurie has been touted as an option but he'd offer more of the same.

If Moses is worth 1.4m a year, you'd pay $1m for a guy like Trindall, if only he was coming off contract.
 
SwervinMervin said:
So true. After two rounds you can see just about every team has improved. Tigers defence perhaps marginally better than last year but in attack they are diabolical. Yesterday they just seemed bereft of ideas and direction when the game was there for the taking. Newcastle practically gift wrapped it for us but still couldn’t ice it.
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Also, captains decision not to take the 2 at the send off penalty was a really poor call. It was a gift 2 points, back within a converted try with more than 10 mins on the clock against 12. That’s where cool heads should have prevailed and didn’t.
 
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