Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

jirskyr said:
You mean until the minute they decide they don't need him any more.
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Of course. Until then, I'd probably save the brain space.

Though it's not a Roosters-only observation, the minute any player of note is dropped, the modern-day response is 'Ooooh, would we take him at the tigers, boys? Who's his manager? Would he pair well with Brooks? He's what we need guys!! Imagine x at half, Api at hooker, if we could then x to wiggle out of his contract at x club to play 6, and we could lure x across from x club, now that's a football team!... (I know that's not your take here).

It's a little comical.
 
hank37w said:
Agree with a number of things you are saying there apart from the part about extending Doueihi.

I don't think that extending Doueihi before a single game was even played was a smart move even if he didn't get injured.

I don't know what goes on in the background but I certainly wasn't aware of any other team wanting to sign him in the off season that would have caused us to make a panic one year contract extension.

I think that Sheens has alluded all along that this next couple of years was all about setting this team up for Benji in 2025.

The biggest problem is with us, the supporters, who every year during the off season go out of our way to find reasons and excuses for this team and convince ourselves that the coming season will be a better one and some of us are so delusional that we believe we can play finals footy.
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Yep there’s no reason not to try and win every game and or try and make the 8 before 2025…to me it’s like sheens doesn’t care what the results are short term.

It’s first grade. Every game matters. Have some self respect.
 
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Agree about it seeming like Sheens not caring about short term results or at the very least he tries to give that impression because he has no idea what to do to get the team a win.

Going on about 3 year plans that seem to be 3 years at the beginning of each year and building for when Benji takes over seem like pretty convenient ways to deflect the criticisms over our failure to win games.
 
Tiger-ferret said:
Yep there’s no reason not to try and win every game and or try and make the 8 before 2025…to me it’s like sheens doesn’t care what the results are short term.

It’s first grade. Every game matters. Have some self respect.
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I'm not so sure that they don't care.

I think there are two compounding issues that affected us before a ball was kicked in 2023. The first was the cost to unload Brooks, and the second the belief that AD would come good after a full offseason to partner Brooks who would be awoken from his slumber because he would be playing behind a quality pack of forwards. They simply stuffed up their assessment of AD and Brooks.

Those two decisions have crippled us for 23; however, are a blessing for 24 (less AD being out for the season). It means:

1. We are in the market for an NRL quality half that can drive us around the park.
2. The $ we saved on Brooks in 23 was spent on developing the forward pack.
3. Most of our deadwood is off contract next season - we have an opportunity to buy in some quality forwards to replace our plodders and some halves and at least a strike centre to compliment Tupou and "touch wood" Bula.

Medically retire AD and I think we are in a great position to recruit the players we need.

Will the players we need come? That is a different story.
 
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Kelce68 said:
Of course. Until then, I'd probably save the brain space.

Though it's not a Roosters-only observation, the minute any player of note is dropped, the modern-day response is 'Ooooh, would we take him at the tigers, boys? Who's his manager? Would he pair well with Brooks? He's what we need guys!! Imagine x at half, Api at hooker, if we could then x to wiggle out of his contract at x club to play 6, and we could lure x across from x club, now that's a football team!... (I know that's not your take here).

It's a little comical.
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I don't blame any Wests fan for indulging in desperate fantasy at the moment. It's preferable to the reality.
 
Centers ! We need centers
Weve now 3 fullbacks Bula ,Staines and Laurie
Weve got many wingers Nofoaloma ,Tupou , Naden ,Toa and Staines was a winger when he came to us as were Naden and Toa
Centers we don't have any ( no Olam / Reimis , Farnworth/ Staggs , Parker/Harper , Ramien /Talakai etc etc )
Personally I think Brooks would be a better center than a halfback who is a decision maker
Halfs don't think it matters whos 6 or 7
Weve got Brooks ,Wakeham and we did have Douehi
Forwards we are covered there
Where are we going to find 2 centers ,Kepoa is a good aggressive 2nd row or bench utility
If we don't have any future top class centers in Cup or Flegg then find them from the top 2 or 3 Nsw cup sides or Qld cup . I mean Poach them
Of course we need a playmaker but Sheens is sticking with Brooks regardless
I want 2 class centers
 
Jolls said:
I'm not so sure that they don't care.

I think there are two compounding issues that affected us before a ball was kicked in 2023. The first was the cost to unload Brooks, and the second the belief that AD would come good after a full offseason to partner Brooks who would be awoken from his slumber because he would be playing behind a quality pack of forwards simply stuffed up their assessment of AD and Brooks.

Those two decisions have crippled us for 23; however, are a blessing for 24 (less AD being out for the season). It means:

1. We are in the market for an NRL quality half that can drive us around the park.
2. The $ we saved on Brooks in 23 was spent on developing the forward pack.
3. Most of our deadwood is off contract next season - we have an opportunity to buy in some quality forwards to replace our plodders and some halves and at least a strike centre to compliment Tupou and "touch wood" Bula.

Medically retire AD and I think we are in a great position to recruit the players we need.

Will the players we need come? That is a different story.
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The negative is the season is lost, the positive is now the club has a definitive direction moving forward, they are realising Brooks can't lead them to the promised land and I can't see them building the team around him anymore.
 
liltiger said:
The negative is the season is lost, the positive is now the club has a definitive direction moving forward, they are realising Brooks can't lead them to the promised land and I can't see them building the team around him anymore.
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Inexcusable they’ve taken this long to figure the latter out with so many years in the wilderness because of it.
 
6. Josh Schuster
7. Jonah Pezet

This is what we should be hunting for with both Brooks & Laurie freeing up about $1.5 million in open salary next year.

I don't believe any report about Pezet telling his manager to not listen to any offers from NRL clubs it doesn't make sense and would be very irresponsible if his manager was to do so - both Munster and Hughes are 28.... he isn't taking there spot for at least 6 years as both have signed long term deals. Also Munster isn't going tp fullback, as all reports suggest Papenhyzen will be back.

I believe maybe he's referring to allowing himself to finish this season in the Melbourne system for the reminder of the year to gain some more experience within that culture than look at exploring his options in 2024 for a full time gig. We should be in his ear now and letting him know the option is there and throw him a good 500-600k deal, similar to what the dogs did with Burton while he was on the fringe of making FG at Penrith and that has worked out pretty good for them.

He's the best up and coming 7 in the league - Sheens and Bellamy have a very good relationship and I believe Craig will speak highly if Pezet was to consult him about the move. On top of that we have Nofa who apparently both parties are happy for a reunion. Whilst as a young half the potential to play under Benji, with the forward pack we have would be encouraging as much as the media are trying to say otherwise.

On the other hand with Schuster, I posted on here about a week ago that I heard Benji wants Schuster badly and will table an offer come November 1st this year. Apparently we're a much better chance than we think as he was a massive Tigers/Benji fan growing up and was close to coming during his last contract negotiations plus Manly have Latu Fainu they're apparently pondering could take Schuster spot in 2 years time - hence the recent contract he signed expiring in 2024 when they believe Fainu will be ready.

Worst case, both Amone and O'sulivan are good back options.

We need to be aggressive.
 
I see some are saying we don’t have a ball playing lock , well we could have had on in , Nathan brown , hard hitter and a good ball runner and offloader , but for some reason again we failed to seal the deal , had info that it was all done and then we pulled out at the last minute???????
 
Jolls said:
I'm not so sure that they don't care.

I think there are two compounding issues that affected us before a ball was kicked in 2023. The first was the cost to unload Brooks, and the second the belief that AD would come good after a full offseason to partner Brooks who would be awoken from his slumber because he would be playing behind a quality pack of forwards simply stuffed up their assessment of AD and Brooks.

Those two decisions have crippled us for 23; however, are a blessing for 24 (less AD being out for the season). It means:

1. We are in the market for an NRL quality half that can drive us around the park.
2. The $ we saved on Brooks in 23 was spent on developing the forward pack.
3. Most of our deadwood is off contract next season - we have an opportunity to buy in some quality forwards to replace our plodders and some halves and at least a strike centre to compliment Tupou and "touch wood" Bula.

Medically retire AD and I think we are in a great position to recruit the players we need.

Will the players we need come? That is a different story.
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Thanks for reply. Yes I was harsh with my language I’m sure they do care and there’s hopefully a method to their madness . Us fans are just frustrated and impatient.

Medically retiring AD would be best for tigers. It’s a horrible scenario of AD.
 
teddy23 said:
6. Josh Schuster
7. Jonah Pezet

This is what we should be hunting for with both Brooks & Laurie freeing up about $1.5 million in open salary next year.

I don't believe any report about Pezet telling his manager to not listen to any offers from NRL clubs it doesn't make sense and would be very irresponsible if his manager was to do so - both Munster and Hughes are 28.... he isn't taking there spot for at least 6 years as both have signed long term deals. Also Munster isn't going tp fullback, as all reports suggest Papenhyzen will be back.

I believe maybe he's referring to allowing himself to finish this season in the Melbourne system for the reminder of the year to gain some more experience within that culture than look at exploring his options in 2024 for a full time gig. We should be in his ear now and letting him know the option is there and throw him a good 500-600k deal, similar to what the dogs did with Burton while he was on the fringe of making FG at Penrith and that has worked out pretty good for them.

He's the best up and coming 7 in the league - Sheens and Bellamy have a very good relationship and I believe Craig will speak highly if Pezet was to consult him about the move. On top of that we have Nofa who apparently both parties are happy for a reunion. Whilst as a young half the potential to play under Benji, with the forward pack we have would be encouraging as much as the media are trying to say otherwise.

On the other hand with Schuster, I posted on here about a week ago that I heard Benji wants Schuster badly and will table an offer come November 1st this year. Apparently we're a much better chance than we think as he was a massive Tigers/Benji fan growing up and was close to coming during his last contract negotiations plus Manly have Latu Fainu they're apparently pondering could take Schuster spot in 2 years time - hence the recent contract he signed expiring in 2024 when they believe Fainu will be ready.

Worst case, both Amone and O'sulivan are good back options.

We need to be aggressive.
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Believe what you want.

Pezet doesn’t want to leave the Storm & intends to stay longer than his 2yr deal.

If we are dead serious it would take a massive lucrative offer (well over overs) to even make him look away let alone leave which we can’t offer him until after November at best currently.
 
crazycat said:
Gah Forum. King_sirro I have wrapped you in Buttface and I can't undo this...

Now trying to think who is "KS". Katoni Staggs? Brisbane have lost so many in their cap like Fledger and Herbie (Dolphins). I would be surprised if they would tradeout Katoni Staggs, but you never know.

Personally we have hired good defending 5/8's Josh Reynolds comes to mind and look at the trainwreck that was. We need to sort defence though. I don't know how you do it, but we need to sort defence and getting a good organiser is a start.

I would love to do a 1m offer to Jarome Luai.
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I would rather a 1m contract out on Luai.
 
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